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My rock challenge

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What things? Stars created like Adam's bones being created mature? You talk about scars on Adam while ignoring fully formed bones, brain and organs as well as reasoning and language. That is the exact same thing as scars and embedded history.
No, it isn't. Fully formed bones, brains, and organs are evidence of embedded age, not history. As you have even claimed, that is needed for Adam (or the universe) to function.

Now a healed break in a bone? THAT is history and if one existed in Adam's body, that would be embedded age and would be deceitful.

As far as the universe, you don't have enough knowledge about the creation event to be able to say that what we see wasn't created in 6 days, thousands of years ago.
If the universe was created in 6 days, 6,000 years ago then everything we have seen about the supernova SN1987a is a lie because it could not have happened when it did.

As there is the issue of stretching out the heavens and space time dilation.
Sure there is.

You are arguing against God and the scriptures, favoring faith in your own opinion and man's opinion rather than God's own words.
Claptrap. I am arguing that the fingerprints God left in the real world overrule the literal interpretation of a book written 3,000 years ago.
 
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A thousand year old sun would not put out enough heat for life on earth.
Now you are saying God should have created Adam as a child and reared him?

You are now being utterly and completely ridiculous.
Wow, you COMPLETELY missed the point.
 
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Juvenissun said:
Not your business.
Just like you yell: God, would you ever show up before us?

Oh, I'd say it is my business. You see, if you are teaching 701 geology courses and claiming to be a geologist, all while admitting you have no degree whatsoever in anything, that is fraud. You should be arrested. Please provide me with more information so that I may inform the proper authorities. I suspect you will encounter lawsuits as well.
 
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Not a deceiver, but a tester, a teacher.
Really, what have I taught my child if I tell him that I made this rock yesterday but if you test it with the brains I gave you, it will appear to be 100 million years old?
 
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I am arguing that the fingerprints God left in the real world overrule the literal interpretation of a book written 3,000 years ago.
I think atheists would disagree with you.
 
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I think atheists would disagree with you.
You also think that neither Special Revelation nor General Revelation can override each other but your signature line and standard run away response (science can take a hike) tells us that you actually believe something different. So you'll understand if I take what you "think" with a plateful of salt.
 
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You also think that neither Special Revelation nor General Revelation can override each other but your signature line and standard run away response (science can take a hike) tells us that you actually believe something different. So you'll understand if I take what you "think" with a plateful of salt.
Excuse me?

The two (GR & SR) should agree with each other totally.

If they don't, then GR needs to be reinterpreted

What's the problem here?
 
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Oh, I'd say it is my business. You see, if you are teaching 701 geology courses and claiming to be a geologist, all while admitting you have no degree whatsoever in anything, that is fraud. You should be arrested. Please provide me with more information so that I may inform the proper authorities. I suspect you will encounter lawsuits as well.

Who's fault is that? I would say the school is stupid to hire me. It is their fault.
 
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Really, what have I taught my child if I tell him that I made this rock yesterday but if you test it with the brains I gave you, it will appear to be 100 million years old?

Your child should not accuse you to be a deceiver.
He should ask you: why do you tell me that.
You certainly can not answer him.
But my father is God. He can certainly tell me why.

If a student has a bad attitude, everything he learned would be useless, or even harmful.
 
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I create two rocks ex nihilo. I create one with two million years of embedded age and the other with none.

When you study them, your analysis shows that one rock is new and the other rock is old, despite the fact they are both the same age.

Am I being deceptive in making it look like one rock is older than the other?

I would say yes
 
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No there can't. There can only be one ACTUAL age. It is impossible for there to be anything with 2 different actual ages.

Impossible? Think again.
I am not going to argue with you on that. I am not a physicist.
 
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:doh: no, please do show us how something can have two different ages (the whole, not parts).
Something can't have two different physical ages, but something can indeed have two different ages: one existential and one physical.

As I understand it, some rocks "reset" themselves or something.

Meaning the atoms that make up this "new" rock have been around for thousands of years, but the rock itself is brand new.

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