Microchips and Mark of the Beast

[timewerx]

What I would say is that the Jewish symbol is not a hexagram but two entwined triangles. Yes, when seen in silhouette, you do see a hexagram, but the hexagram, per se, is not the symbol. And this leads me to my main point. It is the easy way out to look at something and say "OH, you use a pentagram or a hexagram so you must be a pagan (or occult, or evil, or (insert undesirable name here)).

Two entwined triangles also symbolizes "as above so below" which is one of the principles of Hermeticism. Obviously due to one triangle pointing up to the heavens and one triangle pointing down to Earth.


You can do a google image search of "as above so below" and see for yourself so many images of two triangles pointing up and down in different manner of arrangement, not just the usual hexagram.


The question now remains is Hermeticism good? No. Princicples of Hermeticism or Hermeticism is one of the things serious Occultists go for.

Even if you read the principle "as above so below" is a contradiction of the teachings of Jesus who taught through His parables that the Kingdom of God works in a principle opposite that of principles followed in this world.


I'd rather have you do the searching yourself in the library or in google than have me posting links for you. This way, you'll realize what I'm telling you is the truth.

 

[A New Dawn]

Two entwined triangles also symbolizes "as above so below" which is one of the principles of Hermeticism. Obviously due to one triangle pointing up to the heavens and one triangle pointing down to Earth.


You can do a google image search of "as above so below" and see for yourself so many images of two triangles pointing up and down in different manner of arrangement, not just the usual hexagram.


The question now remains is Hermeticism good? No. Princicples of Hermeticism or Hermeticism is one of the things serious Occultists go for.

Even if you read the principle "as above so below" is a contradiction of the teachings of Jesus who taught through His parables that the Kingdom of God works in a principle opposite that of principles followed in this world.


I'd rather have you do the searching yourself in the library or in google than have me posting links for you. This way, you'll realize what I'm telling you is the truth.

I have spent a bit of time reading various sites since you posted this, and I still say that you need to look at why the symbols were chosen by the group rather than assign hidden meaning.

I'd also like to say that even the things of the world were stolen and used by the pagans. All truth is from God, that someone else perverts it is not to diminish the truth.

 

[timewerx]

you need to look at why the symbols were chosen by the group rather than assign hidden meaning.

I'd also like to say that even the things of the world were stolen and used by the pagans. All truth is from God, that someone else perverts it is not to diminish the truth.

The world is not the truth - 1 John 2:15, 1 John 5:19, John 15:19.

Even if pagans or occult have nothing to do with these symbols, we have this:

Exodus 20:4
"You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

The Hexagram is the common form of snowflakes, crystallization, molecular bonds, the shape is also commonly found in plant life and in less frequency, among animal life too.

The numerical equivalent (proportions) of its geometry is persistently present in all things in nature, including heavenly bodies. The Hexagram is probably the unifying symbol of this Universe. If you picked the Hexagram for a symbol, you definitely picked the worst one to copy.

 

[A New Dawn]

The world is not the truth - 1 John 2:15, 1 John 5:19, John 15:19.

Even if pagans or occult have nothing to do with these symbols, we have this:

Exodus 20:4
"You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

The Hexagram is the common form of snowflakes, crystallization, molecular bonds, the shape is also commonly found in plant life and in less frequency, among animal life too.

The numerical equivalent (proportions) of its geometry is persistently present in all things in nature, including heavenly bodies. The Hexagram is probably the unifying symbol of this Universe. If you picked the Hexagram for a symbol, you definitely picked the worst one to copy.

And you are suggesting that snowflakes are evil? I'd suggest snowflakes are from God, which shows that six-sided/pointed objects are of God and therefore pagans pervert it.

And what the heck does that have to do with making a creating a likeness of things on earth? If you are suggesting we shouldn't worship them, I agree. Because that is what God was talking about in that scripture. Making an image to worship instead of Him.

BTW, I did not say "the world is truth". I am not even sure how you got that out of my post.

 

[timewerx]

And you are suggesting that snowflakes are evil? I'd suggest snowflakes are from God, which shows that six-sided/pointed objects are of God and therefore pagans pervert it.

I don't know how you could have misinterpreted my post.

I quoted Exodus 20:4. Nothing in it says that things of nature are evil, we only must refrain from making images that resemble any of it. What is evil is to make images or image that resemble them since that is disobedience to what God is commanding us.

Thus, a snowflake is not evil, but an image of it, is.

Why would I quote it if I disagree with it?

If you are suggesting we shouldn't worship them, I agree. Because that is what God was talking about in that scripture. Making an image to worship instead of Him.

It's still wrong to make images of them even if you're * not * worshiping them.

BTW, I did not say "the world is truth". I am not even sure how you got that out of my post.

I thought that is what you're saying here in your previous post:

I'd also like to say that even the things of the world were stolen and used by the pagans. All truth is from God, that someone else perverts it is not to diminish the truth.

If not, then I apologize for misinterpreting your post.

 

[SayaOtonashi]

I'm a little confused. Should not a artist draw images. Natures, snowflakes, people. It's their job. When it over takes you and becomes a obsession than it's a problem

 

[timewerx]

I'm a little confused. Should not a artist draw images. Natures, snowflakes, people. It's their job. When it over takes you and becomes a obsession than it's a problem

That is what the world teaches....

Haven't you read what the scriptures say about the world? (James 4:4, 1 John 2:15, 1 John 5:19, John 15:19, John 7:7, Luke 16:15)

But what does God teaches? Follow Exodus 20:4 or what the world teaches?

 

[SayaOtonashi]

but there were artist in biblical times. Also this was talking about worshipping false gods not drawing images. The word used is idol not image.

 

[SayaOtonashi]

However also using a picture of Jesus is also at times idolatry but not drawing a picture if you put it above God yes but not drawing a picture

 

[SayaOtonashi]

The phrase “graven image” comes from the King James Version and is first found in Exodus 20:4 in the second of the Ten Commandments. The Hebrew word translated “graven image” means literally “an idol.” A graven image is an image carved out of stone, wood, or metal. It could be a statue of a person or animal, or a relief carving in a wall or pole. It is differentiated from a molten image, which is melted metal poured into a cast. Abstract Asherah poles, carved wooden Ba’als covered in gold leaf, and etchings of gods accompanying Egyptian hieroglyphics are all graven images.


Read more: What is a graven image?

 

[SayaOtonashi]

What about the fact jewelry is mentioned as both good and bad in the bible.

What Does the Bible Say About Art?


God as giving us skills. There we people making clothes and jewelry. So to say Art is evil I don't know where your giving this

 

[SayaOtonashi]

There were carpenters. Jesus was one. There were painters.

 

[SayaOtonashi]

SO to say Art is evil is very wrong. You have people making the temple for God. Which were full with art. So to say that is very wrong.

1 King 6

 

[A New Dawn]

but there were artist in biblical times. Also this was talking about worshipping false gods not drawing images. The word used is idol not image.

You are correct. That scripture was talking about creating idols for the purpose of worshiping them. It says nothing about anything else.

 

[Noxot]

the mark is in the works and brains/belief-systems of humans. it is a spiritual thing. you get it by being deceived. how else will everyone in the world be deceived unless it was spiritual deception? how does everyone in the entire world receive some kind of implant? it is much more logical to conclude that it is the spirit of the world that is the mark of the beast. just the same the seal for us is the Holy Spirit. the mark of God is God himself. the mark of man is the number of man. people think in a literal and physical manner because they are spiritual babies and don't know how else to understand spiritual concepts. therefore they understand the bible like a beast understands how to read - not very well. but the dogs tear apart and the pigs trample that which is holy.

 

[parousia70]

Haven't you read what the scriptures say about the world?

Yep.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

We are to love what God Loves

 

[parousia70]

The world is not the truth - 1 John 2:15, 1 John 5:19, John 15:19.

Even if pagans or occult have nothing to do with these symbols, we have this:

Exodus 20:4
"You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

The Hexagram is the common form of snowflakes, crystallization, molecular bonds, the shape is also commonly found in plant life and in less frequency, among animal life too.

The numerical equivalent (proportions) of its geometry is persistently present in all things in nature, including heavenly bodies. The Hexagram is probably the unifying symbol of this Universe. If you picked the Hexagram for a symbol, you definitely picked the worst one to copy.

Why did the Republican party Invert the stars on their symbol?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdbogqeWJP1rncafl.jpg

Everyone knows an upsidedown pentagram is satanic.

If you are a republican, and a professing Christian, you might want to re think your political party affiliation.....

 

[A New Dawn]

Why did the Republican party Invert the stars on their symbol?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdbogqeWJP1rncafl.jpg

Everyone knows an upsidedown pentagram is satanic.

If you are a republican, and a professing Christian, you might want to re think your political party affiliation.....

Stars are not pentagrams.

 

[parousia70]

https://www.google.com/search?q=pen...nIISIogTc44CoCA&ved=0CEUQsAQ&biw=1536&bih=777

 

[A New Dawn]

https://www.google.com/search?q=pen...nIISIogTc44CoCA&ved=0CEUQsAQ&biw=1536&bih=777

Thanks, but I know what a pentagram is. It does seem obvious that you don't, though.

Pentagram - noun

a star-shaped figure formed by extending the sides of a regular pentagon to meet at five points
such a figure used as a magical or symbolic figure by the Pythagoreans, black magicians, etc
Collins English Dictionary | Always Free Online


pentagram (plural pentagrams)

The shape of a five-pointed star constructed of five intersecting lines meeting at the vertices, such that a central pentagon and five surrounding isosceles triangles are formed; often with magical connotations.
(mathematics) a 5/2 star polygon
pentagram - Wiktionary

In other words, this is a pentagram

and this is a star