Twisted Scripture (False Doctrines)

[shturt678s]

I post this list for the benefit of those who have eyes to see, ears to hear, etc.

[FONT=&quot]Col 1:22-23 • He has reconciled in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]and blameless, and above reproach in His sight —[/FONT][FONT=&quot]if indeed you continue in the faith[/FONT][FONT=&quot], [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]1 Cor 15:1-2 • Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]which also you received and in which you stand, by which also [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you — unless you believed in vain.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Heb 2:1-4 • Therefore we must give the more earnest heed to the things we have heard, [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]lest we drift away[/FONT][FONT=&quot].[/FONT][FONT=&quot] For if the word spoken through angels proved steadfast, [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]and every transgression and disobedience received a just reward, [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation …?[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Heb 10:36-39 • For you have need of endurance, so that after you have done the will of God, [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]you may receive the promise: “For yet a little while, and He who is coming will come [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]and will not tarry. Now the just shall live by faith; but if anyone draws back, [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]My soul has no pleasure in him.” But we are not of those who draw back to perdition[/FONT][FONT=&quot], [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]but of those who believe to the saving of the soul. … Oh, really? Paul always encourages.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]1 Tim 4:16 • Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine. Continue in them, [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Jude 1:20-21 • But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]praying in the Holy Spirit, keep yourselves in the love of God, [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Phil 2:12-16 • … work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]… that you may (not will) become blameless and harmless, children of God without fault[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]… holding fast the word of life, so that I may (not will) rejoice in the day of Christ [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]that I have not run in vain or labored in vain[/FONT][FONT=&quot].[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]1 Pet 1:5-9 • … the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]perishes, though it is tested by fire, may (not will) be found to praise, honor, and glory at [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]the revelation of Jesus Christ … receiving the end of your faith — the salvation of your souls.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]1 Tim 6:9-14 • But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition (i.e. hell). [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. But you, O man of [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]God, flee these things and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, gentleness. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, to which you were also called …[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I urge you in the sight of God who gives life to all things, and before Christ Jesus … that you[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]keep this commandment [/FONT][FONT=&quot]without spot, blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ’s appearing[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Rev 2:10 • Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]that[/FONT][FONT=&quot] you may (will) be tested[/FONT][FONT=&quot], and you will have tribulation ten days. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of (eternal) life.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]James 1:12 • Blessed is the man who endures temptation; for when he has been approved, [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]he will receive the crown of life[/FONT][FONT=&quot] which the Lord has promised to those who love Him.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Heb 3:6,14 • Christ as a Son over His own house, whose house we are, [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm to the end.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]… For we have become partakers of Christ, [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]2 Tim 2:12 • If we endure, we shall also reign with Him. If we deny Him, He also will deny us.

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Because of all of the above verses …[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1) Christians see the following passage as having a double-meaning:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Matt 10:22 • But he who endures to the end (of his life) will be saved. (also Mark 13:13, Matt 24:13)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2) Eternal life is actually granted (or denied) some time after one dies![/FONT]
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Overall,

Old agreeing to agree Jack

 

[shturt678s]

Overall,

Old agreeing to agree Jack

Let's get at one of the main causes, ie, "because they received not the agape of the truth that they be saved." (IIThess.2:10b)

Resulting in accordance with Satan's working in v.9 through his agencies due to being personally bound until Rev.20:7.

Raising the bar a notch,

Old Jack

 

[extraordinary]

Those with eyes which see will see plainly that none of these verses says that
continued faith is required for salvation.

God has chosen to keep several of His spiritual Truths somewhat hidden!
A prime example of this is ...
Jesus did not climb a hill overlooking thousands of followers and scream, "I AM GOD!".

Actually, He only revealed this clearly to His disciples towards the end of His 3 years of ministry.

Explanations such as this are for those who are open to spiritual Truth.
.

 

[FreeGrace2]

God has chosen to keep several of His spiritual Truths somewhat hidden!

I don't that for a minute. There is no reason for Him to hide His Truths. In fact, His will is that all be saved and come to the knowledge of Truth.

If what you say is true, how did you find what He has hidden? Or, is He playing hide and seek with us?

A prime example of this is ...
Jesus did not climb a hill overlooking thousands of followers and scream, "I AM GOD!".

Actually, He only revealed this clearly to His disciples towards the end of His 3 years of ministry.

He also admitted to the Jews that He was God's Son directly.

Explanations such as this are for those who are open to spiritual Truth.
.

Quite the condescending comment.

 

[extraordinary]

There is no reason for Him to hide His Truths.
In fact, His will is that all be saved and come to the knowledge of Truth.
If what you say is true, how did you find what He has hidden?
Or, is He playing hide and seek with us?

I said "somewhat hidden".

THERE IZ SCRIPTURES WHERE HE SAYS HE HIDES THE TRUTH FROM MAN.

Go find 'em!
.

 

[shturt678s]

I said "somewhat hidden".

THERE IZ SCRIPTURES WHERE HE SAYS HE HIDES THE TRUTH FROM MAN.

Go find 'em!
.

Really hidden in today's full blown apostasy, ie, the supreme concept in the N. T. veiled in the Parabolic langauge of Matthew for starters, eg, Matt.13:3-44 only for openers (Matt.13:11, or so) - "Kingdom of God."

Basic Bible 101 (Matt.13:11, or so)?

Old lower paygrade Jack

 

[FreeGrace2]

I said "somewhat hidden".

THERE IZ SCRIPTURES WHERE HE SAYS HE HIDES THE TRUTH FROM MAN.

Go find 'em!
.

Do you know how many men He hides the truth from? How do you know you aren't included?

In fact, the only ones He hides truth from are those not seeking:

2 Thessalonians 2:10
and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved.
2 Thessalonians 2:11
For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false,

 

[shturt678s]

Do you know how many men He hides the truth from? How do you know you aren't included?

In fact, the only ones He hides truth from are those not seeking:

2 Thessalonians 2:10
and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved.
2 Thessalonians 2:11
For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false,

Not those 'seeking,' however those that lack an agape for the truth, ie, whatever agape may mean in today's apostasy?

Old Jack

btw one cannot help but agape IIThess.2:10b.

btw I sure don't have this 'truth'

 

[FreeGrace2]

Not those 'seeking,' however those that lack an agape for the truth, ie, whatever agape may mean in today's apostasy?

Yes, people believe what they love. iow, they don't love what they don't believe.

 

[stan1953]

Hello all,
I have been Christian for little over a year now and I have backslidden to a state of prayerlessness, habitual sin, inner bitterness toward God and sheer fear of if I am beyond salvation, but in my heart I want nothing more than to return to God.
When I started out learning scripture I got the wrong idea of salvation, preachers commonly preach on:
- Once Saved Always Saved - LIES
- Works are nothing, faith is everything - LIES
- God forgives ALL sin, no matter how many - LIES
Now many here will agree with some, if not all them statements. But I challenge you, as I feel they are scripture that has been sinisterly twisted over the years.
By believing these doctrines I developed an attitude that no matter what I did, I was saved and all I had to do was believe that God raised Jesus from the dead (which I did). This led me to think I could get away with enjoying the "passing pleasures" of sin. As a result, I have backslidden and tremble at the thought of if I have "fallen away".
The Bible clearly states:
'but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.' - Matthew 24:13
'In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.' - James 2:17
'If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,' - Hebrews 10:26
'It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.' - Hebrews 6:4-6
'And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.' - Luke 12:10
I want to come back to God, to feel that passion that I had some time ago. False doctrine like above has helped cause me to stumble, along with my own foolishness. Please, if you have any advice for me or want to chat about the above doctrines, please leave a comment.
God bless you all.
Jacob

Quite frankly you need to learn how to READ the Bible and pray. That's it!
It is quite dangerous for you to come into a forum on soteriology if you don't KNOW in your heart what you believe or what the Word of God actually says about salvation. I suggest you find yourself a church that will help you to grow in your faith. This particular forum is NOT the place for babes in the woods. Other parts of CF would be more suitable for you.

 

[Bro in Christ]

I will return

 

[Bro in Christ]

Hello all,

I have been Christian for little over a year now and I have backslidden to a state of prayerlessness, habitual sin, inner bitterness toward God and sheer fear of if I am beyond salvation, but in my heart I want nothing more than to return to God.

When I started out learning scripture I got the wrong idea of salvation, preachers commonly preach on:

- Once Saved Always Saved - LIES
- Works are nothing, faith is everything - LIES
- God forgives ALL sin, no matter how many - LIES

Now many here will agree with some, if not all them statements. But I challenge you, as I feel they are scripture that has been sinisterly twisted over the years.

By believing these doctrines I developed an attitude that no matter what I did, I was saved and all I had to do was believe that God raised Jesus from the dead (which I did). This led me to think I could get away with enjoying the "passing pleasures" of sin. As a result, I have backslidden and tremble at the thought of if I have "fallen away".

The Bible clearly states:

'but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.' - Matthew 24:13

'In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.' - James 2:17

'If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,' - Hebrews 10:26

'It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.' - Hebrews 6:4-6

'And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.' - Luke 12:10


I want to come back to God, to feel that passion that I had some time ago. False doctrine like above has helped cause me to stumble, along with my own foolishness. Please, if you have any advice for me or want to chat about the above doctrines, please leave a comment.

God bless you all.
Jacob

Jn 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.


question is what words are spoken that one must believe ?

Jn 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.

1 jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Jn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

1 cor 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

there are 3 words in the greek for vain ...
#1 Eiken-objective without purpose 1 cor 15:2
#2 Kekos -empty to content 1 cor 15:10
#3 Matalos -vain without result 1 cor 15:17


1 cor 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

1 jn 2:12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake.

1 jn 2:13 b I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.

1 cor 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:


1 jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

2 jn 1:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.





James 2:17 is a funny verse that I have hear Mormans and assembly of God use this same verse the same way as you .....

lets look at the context of James.

James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

How does a one that kills his son justified by his works?

Heb 11:17-19 faith chapter Abraham believed in Gen 15:6 worked in gen 22:10 about thirty years after believing

James 2:25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?

heb 11:31


God chose us before the world began ... eph 1:4 He chose the worst of humanity to glorify His self 1 cor 1:26-31 where dirt shines forth his glory yet He allows us to fail ... 1 jn 1:8-10
How does a harlot gtet justified by her works?

 

[OzSpen]

If every occurrence of believe was in the present tense, you would have a point, but it also occurs in the aorist tense. Paul's answer to the jailer was in the aorist tense and the result was in the future tense (will be saved)....

It is clear from Scripture that at the moment one believes (aorist tense), one is saved and HAS eternal life. And there is nothing to suggest that eternal life isn't eternal, or can be lost.

That's not how grammar works in Greek or English. Different contexts require different grammar.

This is a core understanding of salvation:

John 3:15-16 states clearly that there must be continuing belief/faith for there to be continuing salvation/eternal life:

15 that whoever believes [present tense - continues to believe] in him may have [present tense - may continue to have] eternal life.
16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes [present tense - continues to believe] in him should not perish but have [present tense - continue to have] eternal life.
​

Your 'clear from Scripture' view is contradicted by the grammar of John 3:15-16.

 

[FreeGrace2]

That's not how grammar works in Greek or English. Different contexts require different grammar.

Where are the rules regarding "different grammar" for "different contexts". Grammar rules are for the language, not for context.

This is a core understanding of salvation:

John 3:15-16 states clearly that there must be continuing belief/faith for there to be continuing salvation/eternal life:

15 that whoever believes [present tense - continues to believe] in him may have [present tense - may continue to have] eternal life.
16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes [present tense - continues to believe] in him should not perish but have [present tense - continue to have] eternal life.
​

Your 'clear from Scripture' view is contradicted by the grammar of John 3:15-16.

If Jesus had NOT used the aorist tense for "believe and be saved" in Luke 8:12, and in the next verse used the present tense for "believe for a while", I might be persuaded of your view. But by His using "believe" in the present tense and adding "for a while" obvious shows that even present tenses aren't always continuous.

There are many texts where "believe" is in the aorist tense. No sense of time.

Also, if salvation was based on continual faith, why in the world are there NO verses that plainly give such a warning: keep on believing if you want to keep on being saved, or something like that?

A person is saved immediately upon faith in Christ. At that same moment, God regenerates, justifies, forgives, and gives the right to be His child.

None of these things are ever described as in jeopardy of being lost in Scripture.

 

[extraordinary]

UNO ... Also, if salvation was based on continual faith, why in the world are there NO verses that
plainly give such a warning: keep on believing if you want to keep on being saved, or something like that?
DOS ... A person is saved immediately upon faith in Christ.
At that same moment, God regenerates, justifies, forgives, and gives the right to be His child.

Re: UNO ... I know you have seen the 15 verses (in post 18) which warn that one's faith must continue until death.
Re: DOS ... Ditto as per da UNO.

TRES ... You continue to insist on ignoring plain and obvious Scripture verses,
which explain clearly why your salvation doctrine is false.
Why, even the Hammster now acknowledges the necessity of continuance.
.

 

[nobdysfool]

Sad that so much of FG's theology seems to be based on what is NOT found in scripture, rather than what is. It's called an argument from silence, which is an inherently weak argument. Not all theological understanding is summed up in nice neat little one-line verses. Some theological understandings must be mined, dug out of the Scriptures, like precious jewels, which are not found strewn about in a concrete parking lot, but are found underground, and must be freed from their surrounding matrix with effort, and labor. Just because one doesn't see something, doesn't mean it isn't there. And with theological truths, unless and until the Holy Spirit opens one's eyes, it won't be evident to them. To claim that what one doesn't see doesn't exist, is folly. There are depths of meaning and teaching in God's Word that have not been seen yet. There is depth to God's Word that we have not even glimpsed, or dreamed of. To demand that all truth must be reduced to neat little verses is to cheapen God's Word to soundbites. The Truths are there, whether one sees them or not.

 

[sdowney717]

Re: UNO ... I know you have seen the 15 verses (in post 18) which warn that one's faith must continue until death.
Re: DOS ... Ditto as per da UNO.

TRES ... You continue to insist on ignoring plain and obvious Scripture verses,
which explain clearly why your salvation doctrine is false.
Why, even the Hammster now acknowledges the necessity of continuance.
.

Continuing to believe and confess Jesus as Lord wont be a problem for those He has called, justified and will eventually glorify. Because He works all things to their good, those that love God and are the called, meaning He is able to save to the utmost those that call on His name.

I love How God calls us and then we call on God, communication is ongoing between Him and His people, it is not a dry static thing, we have a living, dynamic, relationship with God, Him knowing us and us knowing Hm.

Like God describes Abraham and their relationship.

16 Then the men rose from there and looked toward Sodom, and Abraham went with them to send them on the way. 17 And the Lord said, “Shall I hide from Abraham what I am doing, 18 since Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?
19 For I have known him, in order that he may command his children and his household after him, that they keep the way of the Lord, to do righteousness and justice, that the Lord may bring to Abraham what He has spoken to him.”

Here is one thing Jesus tells us that has made HIM very happy
And it is all about relationship , knowing God and Christ, the fellowship between men and God.

Jesus Rejoices in the Spirit

21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in the Spirit and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and revealed them to babes. Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 22 All[g] things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows who the Son is except the Father, and who the Father is except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.”

Of that relationship, Apostle John also extols as a wonderful thing, which makes us all God and men joyful.
.

1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life— 2 the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us— 3 that which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ. 4 And these things we write to you that your[a] joy may be full.

 

[shturt678s]

Where are the rules regarding "different grammar" for "different contexts". Grammar rules are for the language, not for context.


If Jesus had NOT used the aorist tense for "believe and be saved" in Luke 8:12, and in the next verse used the present tense for "believe for a while", I might be persuaded of your view. But by His using "believe" in the present tense and adding "for a while" obvious shows that even present tenses aren't always continuous.

There are many texts where "believe" is in the aorist tense. No sense of time.

Also, if salvation was based on continual faith, why in the world are there NO verses that plainly give such a warning: keep on believing if you want to keep on being saved, or something like that?

A person is saved immediately upon faith in Christ. At that same moment, God regenerates, justifies, forgives, and gives the right to be His child.

None of these things are ever described as in jeopardy of being lost in Scripture.

What about those "being saved," ICor.1:18, ie, will spare you those that "shall be saved."

Old hopefully "being saved" Jack born into this full blown hypergrace era.

 

[KWCrazy]

In being saved, we realize that sin is destructive; that it leads us to eternal destruction; that it has negative implications in all facets of our life and that it is an affront to the God that we love. That said, we are of a sinful nature, and that nature drags us further away from our creator every day if we allow it. Avoiding Hell is important, but as existing is not living merely avoiding Hell is not the same as walking with Christ. You're cheating yourself out of true inner peace and happiness by indulging in things that do not satisfy. The wages of sin are death, and for your sins you will some day die. That's not condemnation, but justice. God is just. He rewards those who hunger and thirst for righteousness and punishes those who choose to live sinful lives. Ultimately, nothing in life is more important than your relationship with your Creator. The things of this world my provide short term pleasure, but true happiness comes from being close to the Father.

The Scriptures are difficult to understand perfectly, and that's a good thing. Consensus ends debate. Discussion of what specific passages mean requires a deeper study, which is a good thing. I've learned more debating heathens and researching specific subjects than I've learned in church. God doesn't expect us all to have a perfect understanding. All will be revealed when we get to Heaven. Whether you exalt or are exalted in Heaven depends on how you live your life on earth. The wise man stores up treasures in Heaven. he will be there far longer than he was ever here.

 

[THIS]

Hello all,

I have been Christian for little over a year now and I have backslidden to a state of prayerlessness, habitual sin, inner bitterness toward God and sheer fear of if I am beyond salvation, but in my heart I want nothing more than to return to God.

When I started out learning scripture I got the wrong idea of salvation, preachers commonly preach on:

- Once Saved Always Saved - LIES
- Works are nothing, faith is everything - LIES
- God forgives ALL sin, no matter how many - LIES

Now many here will agree with some, if not all them statements. But I challenge you, as I feel they are scripture that has been sinisterly twisted over the years.

By believing these doctrines I developed an attitude that no matter what I did, I was saved and all I had to do was believe that God raised Jesus from the dead (which I did). This led me to think I could get away with enjoying the "passing pleasures" of sin. As a result, I have backslidden and tremble at the thought of if I have "fallen away".

The Bible clearly states:

'but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.' - Matthew 24:13

'In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.' - James 2:17

'If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,' - Hebrews 10:26

'It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.' - Hebrews 6:4-6

'And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.' - Luke 12:10


I want to come back to God, to feel that passion that I had some time ago. False doctrine like above has helped cause me to stumble, along with my own foolishness. Please, if you have any advice for me or want to chat about the above doctrines, please leave a comment.

God bless you all.
Jacob

I believe you have touched Jesus by what you say here.