"Serious historical questions"??
The Great Controversy dishonestly claims that the Pope changed Saturday to Sunday. It does not do so with Biblical sources.
It plainly traces the history of both Sabbath Keeping and Sunday Keeping throughout history. And mostly after the First Century It is blatantly dishonest in its recitation of historical facts. Additionally, I have repeatedly asked you to address some historical facts that are concurrent with first century Biblical history. You have not done so. Your demand that this must limited to the Bible is willfully deceptive. Your own preeminent Sabbath Scholar has refuted virtually every single historical fact about Christian Sunday worship in the Great Controversy.
"If you need to wait until after the Apostles are dead and more errors creep in to get someone to make your point - then perhaps you need to re-think it."
Your statement is false and willfully deceptive. You have read my questions and so you already know that they are based on history well before the Apostles died.
The questions are clearly based on the first year after the Resurrection. You are not confused about the period in question. No Apostles died the First year after the Resurrection, and you already know good and well that they didn't. Your response is multi-layered in egregious deception,
since I plainly claimed that the Early Church in initiating Sunday worship was operating under the direct commands of the Apostles.
I have asked you repeatedly now to address some easily verifiable history that completely refutes many of Adventism's most cherished contentions. Your painfully-obvious and repeated avoidance of direct questions - which were asked politely and complete with detailed historical assertions that are easily researched on the internet -
must be taken as a clear tacit admission that the seminal book of the Adventist church is an outright, plagiarized fraud. It clearly is. And you clearly know it is so, otherwise you would just answer the questions. It is also a clear public tacit admission that you are well aware the writer of that book is an outright fraud and a false prophet, since you know her recitation of history is blatantly untrue. Perhaps posting my questions
for the third time might compel you to cease your embarrassing public squirming, and have some pride in being the first Adventist in history that has honestly grappled with these extremely disturbing facts. You really could take some pride in abandoning a deeply-shameful 150-year history of organizational deceit and fraud:
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We can start talking when you become the very first Adventist in history who addresses and discusses the adamant contention of Eastern Orthodoxy that Sabbath keeping was rejected immediately after the Resurrection and Easter was celebrated on the 1 year anniversary of the Resurrection. All done on the explicit command of the Apostles. I would remind you that your Prophet never mentioned the existence of this Church, and asserted that the Pope changed Saturday to Sunday. You leading Sabbath Scholar acknowledged the existence of this church (Whew!), but never grappled with their contention about first year Sunday worship and Easter celebration.
Next I would like you to address the contentions of both Justin Martyr and Ignatius of Antioch, both disciples of the Apostle John, who both adamantly asserted that Christians are not bound by ANY of the Mosaic Law, and both strongly rejected any compatibility between Christianity and Old Testament Law, and most importantly with the Sabbath. Also address the fact that Ignatius was the second Bishop of Antioch, while the Apostle Peter was the first: They clearly knew each other. We have two early Church Fathers who were closely connected to the Apostles John and Peter, and both unequivocally rejected Sabbath Keeping. I have done a lot of reading and research on this, and it all comes down to one single point: The Apostles unequivocally rejected Sabbath Keeping at the Resurrection, and taught the fledgling Christian community to do the same. And the Apostles had the explicit authority from Jesus Christ to do just exactly that. In AD 50, the Council of Jerusalem unequivocally reaffirmed that Gentile Christians would not keep the Mosaic law, and were only bound by essentially four of the "Noahide Laws."
Please don't respond to this with your usual Sabbath spam.
Or, you can simply be like everyone one else in your organization, and continue pretending that the 2,000 year old, 300 million member church does not exist, that two of the leading Church fathers never existed (nothing is mentioned about either man in EGW's writings) and continue keeping the Sabbath on the authority of Ellen White. Either way is fine with me."
Now then,
for the third time, please answer these historical questions. The Seventh Day Adventist Church has been ignoring the existence of a 2,000 year old Church with 300 million members for more than 150 years. It is time for that deceit to stop. The "Great Controversy" is Ellen White's seminal history of the Christian Church, written and disseminated by the Seventh Day Adventist Church. It is a dishonest, slanderous, and vicious smear job. It is also at least 80 percent plagiarized. It is grotesquely false in the way it portrays the history of Christianity. Particularly in its recitation of First Century history. It is an egregiously false and an unbelievable hatchet job given the systematic deadly and cruel persecution that the Early Christians operated under daily. The Great Controversy claims that the First Century Church apostatized early on, which is an incredibly false statement, based on the many Christian Martyrs that died gruesome, grizzly and horrible deaths rather than recant Jesus Christ. Had those First Century Christians had any reason whatsoever to keep the Sabbath, the Apostles would have taught them so, and they would have kept it at even the threat of death. No other logical inference is possible. The Christian Church NEVER kept the Sabbath. The Seventh Day Adventist church is based on a manifestly false and deceptive world view at its core. I close with a quote from their founder that strongly demonstrates the false, vicious, and slanderous position of the Seventh Day Adventist Church towards Christianity. It is simply an anti-Christian hate group:
"I saw the state of the different churches since the second angel proclaimed their fall [in 1844]. They have been growing more and more corrupt.... Satan has taken full possession of the churches as a body.... The churches were left as were the Jews; and they have been filling up with every unclean and hateful bird. I saw great iniquity and vileness in the churches; yet they profess to be Christians. Their professions, their prayers and their exhortations are an abomination in the sight of God. Said the angel, God will not smell in their assemblies. Selfishness, fraud and deceit are practiced by them without the reprovings of conscience." Spiritual Gifts, Vol. I, page 189, 190
THAT'S why my questions go unanswered.
