A Pondering of the Peculiar (4)

[GenemZ]

Yes, if you take a book filled with bad science, self contradictions, poor morals, and failed prophecies as a false idol as being real evolution will disagree with that.

You're not qualified to make that judgement. You judge the Bible like the false witnesses who accused Christ at his trial. They got everything wrong, but were sure of themselves... they had an innocent man executed.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

They got everything wrong, but were sure of themselves... they had an innocent man executed.

Which was god's plan all along, apparently.

 

[bhsmte]

You're not qualified to make that judgement. You judge the Bible like the false witnesses who accused Christ at his trial. They got everything wrong, but were sure of themselves... they had an innocent man executed.

Genez, there are many biblical scholars/historians (and many of the Christian) who readily admit, the bible is full of contradictions, incorrect information, prophecy fulfillment that requires creative interpretation, bad science, etc. etc.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Genez, there are many biblical scholars/historians (and many of the Christian) who readily admit, the bible is full of contradictions, incorrect information, prophecy fulfillment that requires creative interpretation, bad science, etc. etc.

Aren't there more then ten contradictions that involve numerical values alone that are so direct and specific you can't interpret them in a way that isn't contradictory?

 

[Subduction Zone]

You're not qualified to make that judgement. You judge the Bible like the false witnesses who accused Christ at his trial. They got everything wrong, but were sure of themselves... they had an innocent man executed.

Sure I am. I can read. Your analogy is terrible. If you want to say that I cannot judge the Bible you are going to have to do a lot better than that.

 

[GenemZ]

Sure I am. I can read. Your analogy is terrible. If you want to say that I cannot judge the Bible you are going to have to do a lot better than that.

Subduction... liberals and atheists have been finding alleged contradictions for years. Each time one is resolved they never learn. They never apologize either. Just had an atheist eat crow in another forum. He disappeared. And, he is a moderator. If you would learn from it and believe it might be worth the effort and energy it takes to resolve what you think you see. There are typos. But, there are also seeming contradictions, that once understood, fall by the wayside.

Alright... (sigh)...

 

[GenemZ]

Aren't there more then ten contradictions that involve numerical values alone that are so direct and specific you can't interpret them in a way that isn't contradictory?

That's your job to count them. Numbers are an easy typo for tired transcribers to make. And, they are not essential to one's salvation.

Look how many typos we make here, but still van understand what the intention was. I am shure you will agree.

 

[bhsmte]

Subduction... liberals and atheists have been finding alleged contradictions for years. Each time one is resolved they never learn. They never apologize either. Just had an atheist eat crow in another forum. He disappeared. And, he is a moderator. If you would learn from it and believe it might be worth the effort and energy it takes to resolve what you think you see. There are typos. But, there are also seeming contradictions, that once understood, fall by the wayside.

Alright... (sigh)...

Have you actually convinced yourself, that liberals and atheists are the only one's to find contradictions in the bible?

 

[GenemZ]

Have you actually convinced yourself, that liberals and atheists are the only one's to find contradictions in the bible?

I have found what I thought were contradictions. Sure. Some deeply troubled me to see. But I trusted God and rested. Then over time, they were cleared up. Sometimes in most unexpected, surprising ways.

As for you? You see no way that they can be cleared up. That they have to be contradictions. You do not know God is real. God loves humbling the believer by opening his eyes to what was right before him, but was failing to see. Once shown, it now seems simple.



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[HitchSlap]

They got everything wrong, but were sure of themselves... they had an innocent man executed.

Lucky for you I guess. Otherwise, you'd be going to the Muslim heaven.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Subduction... liberals and atheists have been finding alleged contradictions for years. Each time one is resolved they never learn. They never apologize either. Just had an atheist eat crow in another forum. He disappeared. And, he is a moderator. If you would learn from it and believe it might be worth the effort and energy it takes to resolve what you think you see. There are typos. But, there are also seeming contradictions, that once understood, fall by the wayside.

Alright... (sigh)...

I never trust theists when they claim a win over an atheist without extremely strong evidence to back them up. Usually the theist is sadly mistaken.

And yes the Bible is full of failures. How do you feel about failed prophesies?

 

[GenemZ]

I never trust theists when they claim a win over an atheist without extremely strong evidence to back them up. Usually the theist is sadly mistaken.

And yes the Bible is full of failures. How do you feel about failed prophesies?

If you were living in 29AD... And you saw Jesus performing all those miracles? Would that be evidence? No.

There is no evidence for you. Its not in your heart.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If you were living in 29AD... And you saw Jesus performing all those miracles? Would that be evidence? No.

There is no evidence for you. Its not in your heart.

We don't even know if Jesus performed any miracles. Those are highly dubious claims that are not well supported.

The subject was the whether we can trust the Bible as a source or not. It seems that you want to change the subject.

 

[HitchSlap]

If you were living in 29AD... And you saw Jesus performing all those miracles? Would that be evidence? No.

There is no evidence for you. Its not in your heart.

A lot of people have performed miracles. No big whoop.

Miracle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[AV1611VET]

The subject was the whether we can trust the Bible as a source or not.

Should we uneducated commoners trust the writings of scientists?

(Just YES or NO please.)

 

[AV1611VET]

A lot of people have performed miracles.

And yet you still mistake them for magic.

 

[HitchSlap]

And yet you still mistake them for magic.

How magic is it?

 

[HitchSlap]

Should we uneducated commoners trust the writings of scientists?

(Just YES or NO please.)

No.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Should we uneducated commoners trust the writings of scientists?

(Just YES or NO please.)

Since you already trust the scientists and scientists have a far better record than theists the answer is yes. If you don't want to trust the scientists the first step you should follow is to break your computer.

 

[Dizredux]

Should we uneducated commoners trust the writings of scientists?

Yes but on a provisional basis. No matter what any scientist says, it is always subject to revision with new data. The idea is that any scientific work is based on the best knowledge available at that time. It can and does changes when new evidence comes in.

That is the same for educated or uneducated individuals.

Dizredux