A Pondering of the Peculiar (3)

[PsychoSarah]

wow... that thought never entered my mind. Not in the least. Something tells me maybe I should keep away from you if you can take what I say and twist it into what you just did.

Hey, it was in a comment on me saying "what if I find pain invigorating". Then you stated "you won't need coffee then". And we were talking about the afterlife. What was I supposed to think? If I am wrong, correct me and state what you meant by that.

 

[GenemZ]

Hey, it was in a comment on me saying "what if I find pain invigorating". Then you stated "you won't need coffee then". And we were talking about the afterlife. What was I supposed to think? If I am wrong, correct me and state what you meant by that.

It was a JOKE!

 

[PsychoSarah]

It was a JOKE!

Then you gotta use one of these

Stuff like that doesn't always translate well in written communication.

 

[GenemZ]

Then you gotta use one of these

Stuff like that doesn't always translate well in written communication.

They need one for a dry sense of humor.. All the ones I have found are way too big to use. It needs a big smile painted on it.

 

[PsychoSarah]

They need one for a dry sense of humor.. All the ones I have found are way too big to use. It needs a big smile painted on it.

What I tend to use for dry or morbid humor is the devil smile >: )

 

[GenemZ]

What I tend to use for dry or morbid humor is the devil smile >: )

To me, that gives a dry sense of humor a bad name. If I saw that emoticon, I would think the person has a cruel streak in them.




I guess it all depends on who is the recipient.

 

[PsychoSarah]

To me, that gives a dry sense of humor a bad name. If I saw that emoticon, I would think the person has a cruel streak in them.




I guess it all depends on who is the recipient.

Hey, joking about me going to hell is kinda a cruel sense of humor.

 

[GenemZ]

Hey, joking about me going to hell is kinda a cruel sense of humor.

It would have been, if that was the joke.

You do not have to worry. With your humor they would throw you back out. It would make it hell for them.

 

[PsychoSarah]

It would have been, if that was the joke.

You do not have to worry. With your humor they would throw you back out. It would make it hell for them.

My first prerogative if I do end up in hell is to kick Satan where it hurts most, so yeah, they might throw me back

 

[Davian]

The excellent data science gathers and categorizes, I very much appreciate.

Appreciate, but do not accept.

Trouble happens when you automatically equate my rejecting of hypothetical conclusions by certain scientists, with rejecting science itself.

No, I equate your rejection of mainstream science as being anti-science.

Next I expect you to tell me that the science that makes your computer work is suspect. Semiconductor theory is only a theory!

I see science as a very good thing. God created scientists.

Name one. I have not heard of these "created scientists". Do they come in packs of six or more? Just add water?

Created so we could begin to better understand to what fantastic depths of creativity God's hands brought forth for man to fathom.

Unless these scientists come up with something you think undermines your interpretation of your bible, then it is crap. Amirite?

The genome at present is only the Lord's version of Windows 1.0.

rotflmao. I was there for Windows 1.0. There is not room within this post to describe how bad that analogy failed.

God also created genius.

Speaking of created genius and scientists, are there any parts the bible that are in praise of wisdom?

To have the common man get a small taste of how we are so limited standing in the presence of God. And, to make the genius see how difficult it must be for God to get the common man to understand Him. After all, a genius is no better than a common man in the sight of God.

Or, God is simply a character in a book and you are making this up as you go along.

 

[GenemZ]

No, I equate your rejection of mainstream science as being anti-science.

How ironic.. The new age Secular Pope has arrived! How dare I question the first church of Science!?

Off with his head! How dare he question our god! The god of science!



You're just as self righteous as those religious prigs you are so quick to mock. Hate the competition for the control of mindless people?

 

[Subduction Zone]

How ironic.. The new age Secular Pope has arrived! How dare I question the first church of Science!?

Off with his head! How dare he question our god! The god of science!



You're just as self righteous as those religious prigs you are so quick to mock. Hate the competition for the control of mindless people?

Science is always changeable. All you have to do is to give evidence that it is wrong an provide a reasonable alternative.

Creationists never ever seem to do that. They avoid peer review.like the plague because they know their mistakes will be exposed. And peer review is only the first step in getting an idea across. If creationists are unwilling to take that simple step how can anyone respect their nonsense?

 

[Davian]

How ironic.. The new age Secular Pope has arrived! How dare I question the first church of Science!?

Off with his head! How dare he question our god! The god of science!

It never ceases to amaze me to see a theist use religious terms in the pejorative.

Science is no god, it is fallible, and subject to change over time with the addition of knowledge. It is only a means for exploring reality.

You're just as self righteous...

Must you make this personal? I do not consider my opinions infallible. Show me where I am wrong.

...as those religious prigs you are so quick to mock.

Do you feel that you have been mocked here? Are your beliefs beyond reproach?

Hate the competition for the control of mindless people?

Hardly. Do you really have such a low opinion of your fellow humans?

 

[GenemZ]

Science is always changeable. All you have to do is to give evidence that it is wrong an provide a reasonable alternative.

Reason does not work. Certain elements amongst scientists demand that everything be on the terms it sets, or it will not consider. Its a fixed deck. There is no reasoning with that. Its a bully pulpit from the First Secular Church of pseudo Science.

Creationists never ever seem to do that. They avoid peer review.

What kind of peer review? LOL! You have no idea. Again, you are imposing a standard that does not fit with the Christian way of life.

like the plague because they know their mistakes will be exposed.

Really? have you ever watched in on theological debates? Its no different than debating you. You are just stuck in a secular sphere of traditional thought that is sacred to your heart. Reason will not reach such a person. For they live in a world of their own making. Its a hiding place to make the world stop spinning.

And peer review is only the first step in getting an idea across. If creationists are unwilling to take that simple step how can anyone respect their nonsense?

There have been many debates between Young earth Creationists and GAP proponents. It does not solve a thing for the most part. For, man has a stubborn unreasonable side to match the side that had been open to receive an idea. The ones that appealed to their own way of viewing reality is what they melded with.

God is separating men from men.. by means of what they choose to believe. All men. In Christianity God allows for false doctrine to stay its course. For those who are doing the will of God will find the truth. Those who are not, will accept lies. If we were all forced to believe only one thing? It may give an outward appearance of unity. But, it would fail to reveal the real person. God is after the real person. That is why God allows for all sorts of lies to permeate the atmosphere of any given society. The stupid stubborn ones (though they may be proud of their high IQ) will always choose some form of lie which they must defend with their wits. That gives them a challenge to pump up their sense of pride in who they are. Others, will find truth. Those who find truth do not mock and scorn like you do who do not agree with what you want others to believe. Truth has an amazing way of stabilizing a soul in the middle of a storm of reaction.

Now... as far as having a peer review amongst Christians?

God is having his way by not forcing us all to agree to seeing things one way! Even when the Truth has been made clear! Men are still free to reject reality.

There can be no effectual peer review for the Church. Only debate and conflict. Those gaining truth enter a peace, but not from winning and defeating his opposition. It comes from God while those opposing continue down their path of spiritual destruction.

Some will repent when exposed to correction. But, there can be no consensus at the end of the day. For man is a fallen creature with a nature that is contrary to peace and honest reasoning.

Here is why there can be no peer review for the Church.

1 Corinthians 11:18-19

In the first place, I hear that when you come together as a church,
there are divisions among you, and to some extent I believe it. No
doubt there have to be factions among you to show which of you
have God’s approval.
​

God is in effect heating up the church to skim off the dross, so that the pure gold is His to keep. The dross are those who follow lies and deceptions willingly. They choose to be that way. Done in stubbornness and unreasonableness ... Yet, all done in the guise of being objective and reasonable.

Only winners win in the end. Not to those who only appear to be winning to their like minded peers.

Matthew 19:30

But many who are first will be last, and many
who are last will be first.
​

Read the last one. It applies to you.

 

[bhsmte]

Reason does not work. Certain elements amongst scientists demand that everything be on the terms it sets, or it will not consider. Its a fixed deck. There is no reasoning with that. Its a bully pulpit from the First Secular Church of pseudo Science.

What kind of peer review? LOL! You have no idea. Again, you are imposing a standard that does not fit with the Christian way of life.

Really? have you ever watched in on theological debates? Its no different than debating you. You are just stuck in a secular sphere of traditional thought that is sacred to your heart. Reason will not reach such a person. For they live in a world of their own making. Its a hiding place to make the world stop spinning.

There have been many debates between Young earth Creationists and GAP proponents. It does not solve a thing for the most part. For, man has a stubborn unreasonable side to match the side that had been open to receive an idea. The ones that appealed to their own way of viewing reality is what they melded with.

God is separating men from men.. by means of what they choose to believe. All men. In Christianity God allows for false doctrine to stay its course. For those who are doing the will of God will find the truth. Those who are not, will accept lies. If we were all forced to believe only one thing? It may give an outward appearance of unity. But, it would fail to reveal the real person. God is after the real person. That is why God allows for all sorts of lies to permeate the atmosphere of any given society. The stupid stubborn ones (though they may be proud of their high IQ) will always choose some form of lie which they must defend with their wits. That gives them a challenge to pump up their sense of pride in who they are. Others, will find truth. Those who find truth do not mock and scorn like you do who do not agree with what you want others to believe. Truth has an amazing way of stabilizing a soul in the middle of a storm of reaction.

Now... as far as having a peer review amongst Christians?

God is having his way by not forcing us all to agree to seeing things one way! Even when the Truth has been made clear! Men are still free to reject reality.

There can be no effectual peer review for the Church. Only debate and conflict. Those gaining truth enter a peace, but not from winning and defeating his opposition. It comes from God while those opposing continue down their path of spiritual destruction.

Some will repent when exposed to correction. But, there can be no consensus at the end of the day. For man is a fallen creature with a nature that is contrary to peace and honest reasoning.

Here is why there can be no peer review for the Church.

1 Corinthians 11:18-19

In the first place, I hear that when you come together as a church,
there are divisions among you, and to some extent I believe it. No
doubt there have to be factions among you to show which of you
have God’s approval.
​

God is in effect heating up the church to skim off the dross, so that the pure gold is His to keep. The dross are those who follow lies and deceptions willingly. They choose to be that way. Done in stubbornness and unreasonableness ... Yet, all done in the guise of being objective and reasonable.

Only winners win in the end. Not to those who only appear to be winning to their like minded peers.

Matthew 19:30

But many who are first will be last, and many
who are last will be first.
​

Read the last one. It applies to you.

Are you saying scientists are falsifying evidence?

How would they get all the other scientists to falsify their evidence as well?

 

[CabVet]

Reason does not work.

Stopped reading right there, that is all I needed to know to understand your worldview.

 

[GenemZ]

Are you saying scientists are falsifying evidence?

How would they get all the other scientists to falsify their evidence as well?

Not talking about evidence. Never was. The evidence is there. The evidence does not contradict the Scriptures.


Remember...

Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either.​

- Albert Einstein​

 

[GenemZ]

Stopped reading right there, that is all I needed to know to understand your worldview.

You are being unreasonable.... and proving my point (the one that you refused to read in its full context)

 

[GenemZ]

It never ceases to amaze me to see a theist use religious terms in the pejorative.

Its because you can not see that you manifest the same traits as those whom you mock so much.

 

[Davian]

Its because you can not see that you manifest the same traits as those whom you mock so much.

Is your attack on my character supposed to poof your god into existence? Have you nothing else?