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I was wondering the opposite, it seems sex has become an idol to some people, especially those who think there's something wrong with 40 or 50 year old virgins.
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Well as I stated (as well as many others), we're not sure how celibacy is a 'gift' one has. We were designed to desire sex. God Himself said it is not good for man to be alone. Some have said they don't have the gift of celibacy so they engage in premarital sex, but it's not a gift. Nowhere in the bible do I see it described as a gift.
It is a choice. I certainly do not desire to remain a virgin my whole life. I could go out and find a woman right now if I wanted, but I have made a choice to save myself for marriage. I don't want to engage in sin. I want a relationship that honors not just myself, but the body, mind and spirit of the woman I'm with and respect her.
And it goes even further than that, I want to respect her parents and family and honor them with our relationship. It will then be a relationship that God honors and smiles upon and hopefully blesses because it is built upon a biblical foundation and not of sin and lust.
It is a choice. I certainly do not desire to remain a virgin my whole life. I could go out and find a woman right now if I wanted, but I have made a choice to save myself for marriage. I don't want to engage in sin. I want a relationship that honors not just myself, but the body, mind and spirit of the woman I'm with and respect her.
And it goes even further than that, I want to respect her parents and family and honor them with our relationship. It will then be a relationship that God honors and smiles upon and hopefully blesses because it is built upon a biblical foundation and not of sin and lust.
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If someone can do something more easily than others can with no extra effort, then he or she certainly has a gift. True God said it is not good for man to live alone, but when His son lived as a man he lived single, he did it for the sake of His father's kingdom, so God is certainly not against singleness.
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You cannot compare Jesus who did not sin and was perfect to any man or woman. He was God! He didnt have the same earthly desires we do. I just saw that you're Catholic so I understand where your beliefs on it come from. But I disagree. We all struggle with different sins more than others. If you have less sexual desire and it is easier for you, that involves hormones more than divine intervention.
Why would God Himself say it is NOT GOOD for man to be alone and you interpret it as Him not being against it? That sounfs against it to me ss it's NOT a good thing.
Why would God Himself say it is NOT GOOD for man to be alone and you interpret it as Him not being against it? That sounfs against it to me ss it's NOT a good thing.
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You are wrong when you say He didn't have the same earthly desires "Our High Priest is not one who cannot feel sympathy for our weaknesses. On the contrary, we have a High Priest who was tempted in every way that we are, but did not sin (Heb. 4 : 15)
FYI i don't have less sexual desires, rather by God's power working in me, I have self-control which is a gift from the Holy Spirit (Gal. 5 : 22)
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You are wrong when you say He didn't have the same earthly desires "Our High Priest is not one who cannot feel sympathy for our weaknesses. On the contrary, we have a High Priest who was tempted in every way that we are, but did not sin (Heb. 4 : 15)
FYI i don't have less sexual desires, rather by God's power working in me, I have self-control which is a gift from the Holy Spirit (Gal. 5 : 22)
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Paul said he wished everyone was single. That was his own thoughts on the matter. Most of Christ's disciples were married. But God Himself created men and women for a purpose and women to be a helper to men and it was good. It is a wonderful thing. I understand the current culture and why people wait to get married but back in the day, you were married off about the time you hit puberty and could bear children. I dont think it was intended for us to wait until 30 because let me tell ya...it's rough. I am not trying to take away from those who wish to wait as I am with you and support you 100%. But those of us who wait have done so out of our own freewill. It has become a manmade religious thing that not getting married and not having sex is this glorious, holy thing. Sex was created by God to be enjoyed by man and wife.
I'm just sharing God's own words. It is NOT good to be alone.
I'm just sharing God's own words. It is NOT good to be alone.
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being tempted and tried doesnt mean he had sexual desires or any desire. Sin begins with thoughts as even lusting is commiting adultery. you can tempt me to lie but that doesnt mean I have any desire to do so.
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Do you have any proof that He had no fleshly desires? Because the Bible seems to imply otherwise "Since the children, as He calls them, are people of flesh and blood, Jesus himself became like them and shared their human nature" (Heb. 2 : 14)
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Sure, most of us are made to desire sex, but for those who don't... I think it would be a load off my mind if I didn't have to worry about fulfilling that particular desire. Sex can become a big issue in marriages, especially if there's not enough of it. I think it would be easier to find a wife who I can get along with, and not worry about whether or not she'd always fulfill my physical needs. But I do have that desire, and I do have to consider it.
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Going back to support, I hear people often say that remaining celibate gets easier as one gets older. I can't imagine it. It was so much harder to maintain control at 30 than at 16 or 18, no question. And what's even worse is that you're not so much attracted to the cute young thing you see on the street (meh, eye candy) as the slightly homely pal you've known for ten years (who just got divorced).
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Well, idk about you guys, but I consider my sexuality to be a God-given gift. There was a time when I allowed myself to be taught that it wasn't, that I should attempt to "kill" it in a sense, and that had adverse consequences. That doesn't mean I have lack of self-control, since it's not like I have to run after sex or pursue it or have it constantly, but I recognize that if I attempt to force myself to reject the gift God gave me, there are adverse consequences for me, so I have to accept that He gave it to me for a reason and that He doesn't judge me for having it, even if it leads to suffering for the time being (it's not unbearable though). So, I think it's important to understand that being a sexual person who desires sex and marriage is not a lack of self-control, in fact it requires self-control to control one's self despite having the desire.
Edit: Further, it's not a minor issue. Here on these forums I've run into a few posters who either attempted to dismember themselves or came close. One poster here even went into detail about having held a knife to his eye. That may seem crazy, but the pressures involved and the mental/emotional trauma that is sometimes forced on impressionable believers can do that to a person.
Edit: Further, it's not a minor issue. Here on these forums I've run into a few posters who either attempted to dismember themselves or came close. One poster here even went into detail about having held a knife to his eye. That may seem crazy, but the pressures involved and the mental/emotional trauma that is sometimes forced on impressionable believers can do that to a person.
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it would be easy to go without sex and maybe marriage. but I prefer to meet someone and be wed, etc. I just don't understand what would be so great about remaining single and sex free.
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