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The Celibate Thread
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ImperatorWall
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Come now, this is not equitable.
If you believe them to be wrong, so be it. Antagonizing them only makes you look bad and imperils your position.
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I really don't care about appearances dude, or what people think about me.
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Miss Spaulding
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I think we've all completely ruined the actual purpose of this thread.
Is there a thread here that hasn't gotten ruined?
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Miss Spaulding
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This does seem to encapsulate some of the issues that have arisen regarding directives to refrain from extramarital sex. Basically, nobody would have conceived of 30-year-old single people or 40-year-old divorced people who had been married 20 years already. I don't think God was trying to create 40-year-old virgins. So how should sexual purity be maintained when marriage may well be when one is 30, or 40, or 50? Or what about when you've been married before (or frankly, not married before) and already had sexual relations?
Also, it's not like there's a switch that just flips. First sex was bad (because it was extramarital) but then it's good (because it's marital). How is that reconciled?
While refraining from sex is going to be the best idea, can we also discuss it in the light of current western culture being a whole lot different from the culture of 2000 years ago?
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ImperatorWall
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I'm not sure where you are getting your history from.
The culture of Rome and it's provinces was not very different from that of America today.
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Strider1002
For when I am weak, then I am strong.
What's it matter if a 40 year-old is a virgin? Or a 50 year-old, or a 60 year-old, for that matter? They're still expected to obey God.
And I know, I know, the culture does its best to convince us all that sex is the absolute pinnacle of life, but it's not. Trust me.
And I know, I know, the culture does its best to convince us all that sex is the absolute pinnacle of life, but it's not. Trust me.
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I think when you have someone you're going to marry and you had sex you should just marry like Paul says and not make too much of it, I read about a woman who was married for years and still felt so bad that she had sex before marriage with her own husband. It's not good, but thinking it's sooooo bad can cause celibacy in marriage. Sex was one way to get married in the Old Testament. If you don't want to marry someone you know for a week, better not have sex either. The gentiles were to abstain from fornication, so I don't think sex without marriage is an option.
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Absolutely true on both accounts, but I'm just wondering if sexual abstinence is becoming an idol when it's lasting a whole lot longer than it was intended to last. Then again, in a society that's hugely oversexed, maybe an idol of abstinence isn't so bad.
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Strider1002
For when I am weak, then I am strong.
In my case, I wasn't ready to give my life to God until I was nearly 30. So, it's good that I didn't marry before that, even though I wanted to.
I'm afraid that a lot of people are holding off on marriage because they have unrealistic standards; expectations of indescribable beauty and romance that have been exacerbated by the arts and the media. Or else they're waiting for perfect circumstances, which don't really exist.
I think a lot of Christians are forcing themselves to remain celibate because they can't find the perfect partner. I suppose it's not really my place to tell people what they should look for in a spouse... but I think many people would be happier if they stopped trying to get along with someone beautiful and started finding the beauty in someone they get along with.
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