All Genesis 2:3 is saying is God was finished with his works. He no where after that said it was a command. That command doesnt even come about until exodus.
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All Genesis 2:3 is saying is God was finished with his works. He no where after that said it was a command. That command doesnt even come about until exodus.
The 10 commandments are just 10 of the 613 commands God gave.
Historic Sunday keeping sources like. SO if you are going to push Saturday sabbath, you might and well be obedient and do the rest of them from Lev 23 since you want to follow his commands.
How was the sabbath kept in Eden?God said "THEREFORE the Lord BLESSED and made it holy" in both Gen 2:3 AND in Ex 20:11 speaking of Genesis 3.
Even the Baptist Confession of Faith notices this -- and declares that from EDEN to the cross the SAME Day of the week is kept as the 4th commandment by God's people starting with Adam.
Moody argues that The Sabbath was kept in Eden as well.
in Christ,
Bob
How was the sabbath kept in Eden?
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It's all been posted several times before--but in Hebrews it is obvious that all rituals involving animal sacrifes were no longer applicable, .
Nice alternate version avoiding a key word. There is still problems using the quoted with the words but and rested.So the Sabbath existed before the law.
Yes, it was included in the law, but again it existed before the law.
You can see the Sabbath in the law here:
Ex 20:8 "Remember the Sabbathhttp://www.biblestudytools.com/exodus/20.html#cr-descriptionAnchor-15 day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work,http://www.biblestudytools.com/exodus/20.html#cr-descriptionAnchor-16 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbathhttp://www.biblestudytools.com/exodus/20.html#cr-descriptionAnchor-17 to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work,...(why?) 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth,http://www.biblestudytools.com/exodus/20.html#cr-descriptionAnchor-18 the sea, and all that is in them, but he restedhttp://www.biblestudytools.com/exodus/20.html#cr-descriptionAnchor-19 on the seventh day....
That last part is lifted right out of Genesis.
Downsizing? Really?There are a number of threads here talking about keep the TEN Commandments - vs downsizing them to "just NINE" or else abolishing them.
[serious];64977002 said:Romans 14:5
One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day [alike]. Let each man be fully assured in his own mind.
Why is it an issue if they do or don't celebrate any particular feast?
Well than if you want to follow Mosaic Law than I hope you follow long the necessary things for you will be Judge accordingly.
In Colossians 2:16-17, Paul explicitly refers to the Sabbath as a shadow of Christ, which is no longer binding since the substance (Christ) has come. It is quite clear in those verses that the weekly Sabbath is in view. The phrase "a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day" refers to the annual, monthly, and weekly holy days of the Jewish calendar (cf. 1 Chronicles 23:31; 2 Chronicles 2:4; 31:3; Ezekiel 45:17; Hosea 2:11). If Paul were referring to special ceremonial dates of rest in that passage, why would he have used the word "Sabbath?" He had already mentioned the ceremonial dates when he spoke of festivals and new moons.
The Sabbath was the sign to Israel of the Mosaic Covenant (Exodus 31:16-17; Ezekiel 20:12; Nehemiah 9:14). Since we are now under the New Covenant (Hebrews 8), we are no longer required to observe the sign of the Mosaic Covenant.
The New Testament never commands Christians to observe the Sabbath.
In our only glimpse of an early church worship service in the New Testament, the church met on the first day of the week (Acts 20:7).
Nowhere in the Old Testament are the Gentile nations commanded to observe the Sabbath or condemned for failing to do so. That is certainly strange if Sabbath observance were meant to be an eternal moral principle.
There is no evidence in the Bible of anyone keeping the Sabbath before the time of Moses, nor are there any commands in the Bible to keep the Sabbath before the giving of the law at Mt. Sinai.
When the Apostles met at the Jerusalem council (Acts 15), they did not impose Sabbath keeping on the Gentile believers.
The apostle Paul warned the Gentiles about many different sins in his epistles, but breaking the Sabbath was never one of them.
In Galatians 4:10-11, Paul rebukes the Galatians for thinking God expected them to observe special days (including the Sabbath).
In Romans 14:5, Paul forbids those who observe the Sabbath (these were no doubt Jewish believers) to condemn those who do not (Gentile believers).
The early church fathers, from Ignatius to Augustine, taught that the Old Testament Sabbath had been abolished and that the first day of the week (Sunday) was the day when Christians should meet for worship (contrary to the claim of many seventh-day sabbatarians who claim that Sunday worship was not instituted until the fourth century).
Sunday has not replaced Saturday as the Sabbath. Rather the Lord's Day is a time when believers gather to commemorate His resurrection, which occurred on the first day of the week. Every day to the believer is one of Sabbath rest, since we have ceased from our spiritual labor and are resting in the salvation of the Lord (Hebrews 4:9-11).
So how many times must you present this?It is true that Paul is keeping feast days but the gentile Christians are not - and that is because of the statement in Hebrews 10 about all sacrifices and offerings being at an end.
Then you have no beef.Acts 21 is clear that Paul not only kept the ceremonial law but he even paid to have 4 other Christian Jews join him in doing so.
But in Romans 14 when speaking of that list of annual Sabbaths in Lev 23 Paul points out that one observes ONE ABOVE the others while another observes them all and that it was an individual choice.
This isn't Passover! Jesus here made a change of the law if you wish to say the Lord's Supper and Passover are the same thing.That is a specific reference to "Christ our PASSOVER has been sacrificed" - so no new animal sacrifice - but an every day life of the Christian.
We still celebrate the Lord's Supper as it turns out.
That's an unsupportable assumption.It shows that the non-Christian Jews in Jerusalem that Herod was trying to please were keeping it. No doubt the Christian Jews as well.
The problem for you is the phrase "Commandments of God." You mean that to be the Ten Commandments when in fact it isn't and can't be shown from the text or context.Indeed. Acts 21 points out specifically that Paul was observant.
But He never requires Gentiles to observe the ceremonial laws of animal sacrifices and offerings as even HE notes in Hebrews 10 and Galatians 2 regarding Titus.
Thus Paul can say "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1Cor 7:19 when contrasting the ceremonial law with the Moral law of God.
in Christ,
Bob
Where does Moody do this?God said "THEREFORE the Lord BLESSED and made it holy" in both Gen 2:3 AND in Ex 20:11 speaking of Genesis 3.
Even the Baptist Confession of Faith notices this -- and declares that from EDEN to the cross the SAME Day of the week is kept as the 4th commandment by God's people starting with Adam.
Moody argues that The Sabbath was kept in Eden as well.
in Christ,
Bob
Where did you say the 4th commandment was even quoted in the New Testament? If it isn't you need to readjust your sheep counter.And ten out of 1050 given in the NT.
Historic Sunday keeping sources like
The "Baptist Confession of Faith"
The "Westminster Confession of Faith"
The Catholic Catechism
D.L. Moody
R.C Sproul
Andy Stanley
Thomas Watson
do not make such an argument - because they know the Bible does not support it.
in fact they all argue that Sabbath started in Eden before any ceremonial law existed.
You might as well be arguing that if we are going to Honor God's statement on Marriage in Gen 2 then we need to keep the feast of first fruits as well. Hebrews 10 ends sacrifices and offerings but not Marriage or Sabbath - both of which are created in Genesis 2.
in Christ,
Bob
How was the sabbath kept in Eden?.