Catholic expert says angels don't have wings

[Chrystal-J]

Angels may be heard on high this holiday season, but according to one Catholic church official, they don’t have wings.

Catholic Church "angelologist" Father Renzo Lavatori says angels do exist, but are surrounded by shards of light, not wings, according to a Sky News report.

"I think there is a re-discovery of angels in Christianity," Father Lavatori said at a conference in Rome this week. But he suggests the traditional portrayal of angels as winged cherubs is not accurate.

Link: Catholic expert says angels don't have wings | Fox News

 

[Rhamiel]

I ask for the prayers of the Principalities of the USA
and of the nations my friends live in

Principalities are like Guardian angles for entire nations

 

[Chrystal-J]

Principalities are like Guardian angles for entire nations

That's interesting. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Chany]

Angels may be heard on high this holiday season, but according to one Catholic church official, they don’t have wings.

Catholic Church "angelologist" Father Renzo Lavatori says angels do exist, but are surrounded by shards of light, not wings, according to a Sky News report.

"I think there is a re-discovery of angels in Christianity," Father Lavatori said at a conference in Rome this week. But he suggests the traditional portrayal of angels as winged cherubs is not accurate.

Link: Catholic expert says angels don't have wings | Fox News

Um, yeah.

Light is a physical entity too, and it can't be connected to angels for the same reason as wings.

 

[Rhamiel]

Um, yeah.

Light is a physical entity too, and it can't be connected to angels for the same reason as wings.

lol yep

 

[Chrystal-J]

I, myself, have never seen an angel. Although, I do believe I heard one speak when I was having some haunting problems at my house. I heard an angel command a demonic spirit to leave me alone.
I've seen demonic entities around my house. They look somewhat like these pics... (see attachments).

 

[Chany]

lol yep

I think the article writer didn't understand the priest's description.

 

[Azureknight 773]

Great link!

BTW, I think the "wings" as we might traditionally have known must be the manifestation of their glorious true form which we are going to see one day.

 

[Second Phoenix]

Angels cannot be seen. We can only detect by our senses which detect things of the material, changing world. Angels belong to a reality that cannot be perceived.

The OT suggests that angels can emit information that can be detected by the senses. Nevertheless, whatever people perceived about angels should not be considered an aspect of angels.

 

[Tigg]

No surprise as I never thought angels did have wings. Don't think saint's have litle rings/halo's around their heads. Lol. Tis a way of expressing holiness/spirituality etc.

Merry Christmas!

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Well this is all false cuz we know that every time a bell rings, an angel receives his wings.



Jim

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

Yeah, angels definitely don't have wings....

 

[Chrystal-J]

I'm wondering if the author of this article has seen angels himself in order to know. So, the jury is still out in my opinion.

 

[Shiranui117]

Well this is all false cuz we know that every time a bell rings, an angel receives his wings.

^Exactly what I was going to say.

 

[Tigg]

Yeah, angels definitely don't have wings....

Beautiful pict. of the Ark. Thanks for posting it.

 

[Rhamiel]

I was thinking about angels about a week or two ago

ok, we say angels are "spiritual beings"
the Eastern Orthodox describe them as "bodiless powers" or sometimes "bodiless intellects"

normally when we think of "spiritual beings" we think of "spirit" as just being some kind of exotic matter that is different then regular elements

but I think this is an overly simple way to understand it

these are just my own assumptions
please do not take my ideas too seriously

what other spiritual beings do we know of other then angels and demons?

well God the Father and the Holy Spirit and pre-Incarnate Christ are spiritual Persons
Pre-Incarnate Christ is called the "Word of God" but "Word" is a kind of loose translation of the Greek concept of Logos
if you study ancient Greek Philosophy you know that Logos has much deeper meaning then the modern English understanding of Word
Logos can be translated as "Organized Thought"
the Organized Thought of God through which all things were made

so if the Logos is a spiritual being
angels are lesser spiritual beings, God is uncreated and angels are created, the power of God is infinite, as is His wisdom, while angels are finite in power and wisdom, like humans

but both angels and God are spiritual beings, so maybe angels are like lesser logos, individual orginized thoughts rather then THE Organized Thought of God

I apologize if my musings sound gnostic or pantheistic

 

[Sam VanHouten]

Maybe they don't. A lot of what we imagine the symbols of our holy Catholic faith to look like are what artists of centuries ago thought they looked like, for example the bearded, gentrified image of God, or Caucasian Jesus, etc. Angels with wings is another one of those.

 

[prodromos]

Wings symbolise speed, just like eyes symbolise wisdom, I think. See if you can dig up some patristic commentary on Ezekial 10 or Revelation 4

 

[pgp_protector]

If you can entertain & feed them without knowing, I'd say that then they didn't have wings.

Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

 

[Mary of Bethany]

Wings symbolise speed, just like eyes symbolise wisdom, I think. See if you can dig up some patristic commentary on Ezekial 10 or Revelation 4

Also, in Orthodox iconography, St. John the Baptist is shown with wings because he is a messenger, like angels.

Mary