What Would Falsify the Flood?

[AV1611VET]

Is that like in Star Trek when they realise they can save the person with some gadget of the week which would be handy to have again next week but they conveniently forget about it?

Something like that.

 

[AV1611VET]

Your rejection of reality is a miracle?

The other way around: a miracle is a rejection of reality.

 

[Kylie]

Something like that.

You do realise that the only reason that sort of thing is needed is because story writers have put themselves in a corner they can't escape from without some ridiculous thing? Is that what you are claiming a miracle is?

BTW, back in the olden days, we had miracles like God's booming voice from heaven, angels appearing flying down from the sky and Jesus walking on water. Why doesn't this kind of miracle happen any more? Why is it only images appearing on walls, or on toast, or in fences?

 

[Kylie]

You do not know that Mount Everest was there at that time, at that height. You are assuming current conditions.

Oh dear, have we got another dadologist?

 

[pgp_protector]

Oh dear, have we got another dadologist?

Is it contagious ?

 

[AV1611VET]

You do realise that the only reason that sort of thing is needed is because story writers have put themselves in a corner they can't escape from without some ridiculous thing?

No, I sure don't.

Is that what you are claiming a miracle is?

If you don't know what a miracle is, may I suggest you dispense with trying to convince us we don't either?

BTW, back in the olden days, we had miracles like God's booming voice from heaven, angels appearing flying down from the sky and Jesus walking on water.

No, you didn't.

Israel did.

Remember Israel?

We call it the "Promised Land."

Why doesn't this kind of miracle happen any more?

One word: dispensationalism.

Why is it only images appearing on walls, or on toast, or in fences?

Rorschach?

 

[Kylie]

No, I sure don't.

Well, you do now, doncha?

If you don't know what a miracle is, may I suggest you dispense with trying to convince us we don't either?

I was going by what you said, when you agreed with me that it was the same as "in Star Trek when they realise they can save the person with some gadget of the week which would be handy to have again next week but they conveniently forget about it?"

No, you didn't.

Israel did.

Remember Israel?

We call it the "Promised Land."

Oh, are you reduced to quibbling over words now instead of addressing the point? I'll take that as conceding the point, because surely if you had a counter argument you would have used it.

One word: dispensationalism.

I think a better explanation is: an increased knowledge of how the world works.

And dispensationalism would be: an excuse trotted out to explain why all these amazing things happened in the Bible just don't happen anymore.

Rorschach?

Pareidolia

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[Loudmouth]

The other way around: a miracle is a rejection of reality.

A belief in miracles is a rejection of reality, as you have shown time and again.

 

[pgp_protector]

Well, you do now, doncha?



I was going by what you said, when you agreed with me that it was the same as "in Star Trek when they realise they can save the person with some gadget of the week which would be handy to have again next week but they conveniently forget about it?"



Oh, are you reduced to quibbling over words now instead of addressing the point? I'll take that as conceding the point, because surely if you had a counter argument you would have used it.



I think a better explanation is: an increased knowledge of how the world works.

And dispensationalism would be: an excuse trotted out to explain why all these amazing things happened in the Bible just don't happen anymore.



Pareidolia

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Maybe he forgot about it?

 

[Kylie]

Maybe he forgot about it?

And maybe God forgot that, being able to work magic and all that, he didn't need to bother with a boat to save Noah and all the animals from the flood. And maybe he also forgot that if he really wanted to get rid of all the naughty people he could do it without a flood at all.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The other way around: a miracle is a rejection of reality.

Sound like handy things for you to have on demand.

 

[AV1611VET]

A belief in miracles is a rejection of reality,

A miracle is an exception to reality, not a rejection of it.

 

[Kylie]

The other way around: a miracle is a rejection of reality.

A miracle is an exception to reality, not a rejection of it.

So which is it? Or did you change your mind in the intervening two hours?

 

[pgp_protector]

So which is it? Or did you change your mind in the intervening two hours?

It's a Rejection of the Exception ?

 

[Damian79]

Tectonic plates can create mountians, just not fast enough for the biblical timeline.

The Role of Plate Tectonics in Mountain Building

 

[EternalDragon]

Tectonic plates can create mountians, just not fast enough for the biblical timeline.

The Role of Plate Tectonics in Mountain Building

During the flood, they could.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Read it again, it needed a steel frame to keep it together otherwise it would have broken it's back.
Without iron straps around the ark the wood would not have taken the strain.

Why do you all go to lying creationist sites to get your information? what do you expect them to say?
they are only ever going to tell you what they want you to believe to them the truth means nothing.
Creationism for those site are a Business. they know they can tell you anything and you will all believe it,
they feed it to you and you eat it all up.
Why don't you people ever check to see if what they are telling you is the truth? you owe it to your God to check.

Double-talk, which is all you have. Your burecrats required it.

"
Unlike Noah, one would think, Huibers had to have his ark conform to a vast array of rules and regulations. For example, fire-safety standards meant having to apply three coats of fire-retardant varnish. Also, a special ‘mooring anchor’ had to be installed, so as to qualify the construction as a ‘building (house boat), rather than a vessel.2
Bureaucracy was also the reason for having to build it on floating steel barges as well as to install a heavy steel reinforcing frame. Lest critics claim that this is proof that it would have been impossible to build a wooden vessel that size, Huibers, an experienced worker with wood, says it would actually have been much easier to make a wooden ark"

Didn't bother to mention that did you.

 

[Loudmouth]

A miracle is an exception to reality, not a rejection of it.

The only place they exist is in stories.

 

[Loudmouth]

Double-talk, which is all you have. Your burecrats required it.

"
Unlike Noah, one would think, Huibers had to have his ark conform to a vast array of rules and regulations. For example, fire-safety standards meant having to apply three coats of fire-retardant varnish. Also, a special ‘mooring anchor’ had to be installed, so as to qualify the construction as a ‘building (house boat), rather than a vessel.2
Bureaucracy was also the reason for having to build it on floating steel barges as well as to install a heavy steel reinforcing frame. Lest critics claim that this is proof that it would have been impossible to build a wooden vessel that size, Huibers, an experienced worker with wood, says it would actually have been much easier to make a wooden ark"

Didn't bother to mention that did you.

So what evidence would falsify a recent global flood?

 

[Kylie]

During the flood, they could.

Care to explain how a worldwide flood could accelerate the movement of the tectonic plates?