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I don't hate you. On the contrary, I hope you meet Jesus someday. I'll pray for you. What I dislike is your ideology, simply because I am not OK with people who want to kill me and enslave me. Jesus freed us from hate. If you knew the true God, you'd also be free from hatred.

During my 45+ years as a Christian I loved Jesus(as) with all my heart and still do. I did not leave Christianity because I stopped loving Jesus(as) but because I do love him and sincerely believe He led me to Islam, although it was a long Journey. That took 20 years after Leaving Christianity.

I left Christianity because as a Pastor and Evangelistic Missionary, I came to feel I was misleading people and could no longer do so. I felt it was hypocritical to continue calling myself a Christian. I continued to Love Jesus(as) but could no longer believe the depiction of him created in the NT.

During that time I had no contact with Muslims and was living in a part of Texas in which there were no Muslims or Mosques. I found Islam through personal prayer to Jesus(as) and possibly a miracle

In 2004 I was living in the small town of Tennessee Colony. Texas a very Red Necktown smack in the Center of the Bible Belt. I was diagnosed with lung cancer and began preparing for my final days. But my wife passed away suddenly just a few weeks after my diagnosis. I went into a very deep depression and began drinking quite heavily. In May of 2005 I realized the stupidity of my drunken binge sobered up and set forth to regain control of my life. I began with a general clean up of the house. During my clean up I found my old Qur'an in Arabic that I had bought while I was a student at Rabat. I had bought it as a study guide to help me learn to read Arabic.


It had been many years since I had last read anything in Arabic. I was curious as to if I could still read it. I opened it to Surah Fatiha and the first line literally jumped out at me.

Bismillah ir Rahman ir Raheem. "In the name of Allaah, the provider, the Most merciful"



It was like the words glowed and completely filled me with an inner peace I never felt before.



I turned back to the preface and saw it was the supplication:


“Auzu Billahi Mina Al Shaytan Al Rajeem”.
(In Allaah(swt) I seek refuge from the evils of Satan)


After over 20 years of not speaking Arabic it all flowed back to me. I could not stop reading and I was not simply reading words, the feeling of each ayyat came upon me with an indescribable warmth and sense of understanding. I could not stop. I do not know how long I read I know it was for at least 48 hours and I still could not stop the feeling was so powerful and filling me with a strong sense of love and joy on the morning of what I believe was the 3rd day I finally set the Qur'an down and knew I was Muslim. I instantly said the Shahadah and knew I was now part of the Ummah. I did not even know if there were any Muslims in Texas much less if there were any Mosques.




I realized I was hungry and there was no food in the house. The nearest store was only a mile from me so I decided to walk down to it. When I entered the store there was a stranger from out of town. He was dark skinned. Our eyes met and he smiled and said "As salaamu Alaikum Akhi" without hesitation I answered back "Wa alaikum wa reamatullahi wa baraktuhu" He then asked"How long have you been Muslim, I answered about 15 minutes.


He then asked me if I had ever been in a Mosque, I said no. He then invited me to go to the Mosque in Tyler on Friday. I accepted. I later learned his name was Aadil and he had just moved to Texas from Pakistan. He had gotten lost and accidentally drove into Tennessee Colony, He had stopped at the store to get directions. Aadil and I became very close friends and still are although he has since moved back to Pakistan.


Things then moved so fast it became a blur. My youngest Daughter who I had not seen for 15 years called me on the telephone. She had been contacted by the VA and had learned they were concerned about my health. She insisted I move in with her family in Austin, which I did. The biggest surprise was finding out she had accepted Islam 10 years before and was married to a fine pious Muslim man and had 2 children I had never seen. A bigger surprise was soon to come. I discovered all of my children had reverted to Islam and all of my Grandchildren were Muslim.
 
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I can't tell you his name because you'd try to kill him. I know how the "religion of peace" works. You are a follower of the pedophile. That's all I new to know about your beliefs.

Right, you accuse me of wanting to try and murder someone when you don't even know me and you want to tell me you are not full of hatred.

Sorry, your source is as 'reliable and knowledgeable' as you are, which means a total hate-filled, sex-obsessed ignoramus.
 
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Islam teaches you to kill apostates and to kill those who criticize Islam. So, of course I can tell that she (or her brothers) are not trustworthy. Islam is about murder and rape. What good can come of you, people?

Hey, Ishraqi, so you became a Muslims too?

Amazing how many conversions to Islam we've had here since Crypto-Christian showed up. ;)
 
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Right, you accuse me of wanting to try and murder someone when you don't even know me and you want to tell me you are not full of hatred.

Sorry, your source is as 'reliable and knowledgeable' as you are, which means a total hate-filled, sex-obsessed ignoramus.

I know who you admire. You admire Muhammad. He was a murderer. The pupil cannot be very different from his master.
 
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You do realize that drawing and quartering (which is what this is called) was practiced in England up through the 18th century? It was still on the books until 1870, although in the 19th century quartering was done posthumously. In any case, this story is not found in any of the hadith collections and for that reason most Muslim scholars doubt its authenticity. Ibn Ishaq is not the most reliable source.

Do you realize that Muhammad claimed to be an example for all humanity, the prophet of God? Ibn Ishaq is as reliable as any other Muslim source. The entire Islamic religion is a lie, anyways.
 
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Lies. In just 20 years you slaughtered countless innocent people in the name of your false religion. Now you are doing the same thing all over the world.

Woodrow, when did you kill all those people?

And all this time, I thought you were just a nice old man.
 
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If you knew Jesus you'd know that such a statement is not true.

I don't need to know Jesus, I know history. I realize I'm going to get a "but not REAL CHRISTIANS" to which I counter that "REAL JEWS" aren't supposed to hate either, so it doesn't really matter if the people are following the teachings or not. History shows that Christians have been just as bad as any other group.
 
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Do you realize that Muhammad claimed to be an example for all humanity, the prophet of God?

:doh:

Ibn Ishaq is as reliable as any other Muslim source.

And you know this how?

The entire Islamic religion is a lie, anyways.

So it doesn't really matter what lies you tell about it . . .

Proverbs 10:18
 
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If you disregard Ibn Ishaq you might as well disregard Muhammad, since all of the biographies of Muhammad are based on the work of Ibn Ishaq. This work survived in fragments that the rest of the biographers of Muhammad used to build their own versions.

So? Biographies are not considered authoritative sources in Islam.
 
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Virtually every non Muslim killed by Muslims in the past 20 years was 9/11 by 29 individuals that do not represent Islam.

Uh, aren't you forgetting the violence in India which occurs on a regular basis? Of course the violence goes both ways there. Also, don't forget about the Sudan.
But I agree that Christians have killed way more people in the last few decades, let alone the last century. Okay, the last millennium.
 
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Right, you accuse me of wanting to try and murder someone when you don't even know me and you want to tell me you are not full of hatred.

Sorry, your source is as 'reliable and knowledgeable' as you are, which means a total hate-filled, sex-obsessed ignoramus.

I am still amazed he is under the impression Baha'i are Muslims.

But then again I know Muslims that think Baha'i are Christians. To be honest to an outsider Baha'i do appear to be a Christian denomination, they just don't go door-to-Door proselytizing.

(I have some Baha'i friends, so I knew you are neither Christian nor Muslim, but have roots from both)
 
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To be truthful a Muslim or Bahia [sic] must admit that the threat or mention/example of stoning is mentioned in the Quran....

And to be truthful, YOU must learn to spell the name of the religion correctly!
 
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Uh, aren't you forgetting the violence in India which occurs on a regular basis? Of course the violence goes both ways there.

It seems I had a severe case of selective Memory failure.

In my mind I was looking upon that as political Hindi/Punjabi (Pakistan/Indian) not Religious Hindu/Muslim
 
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(I have some Baha'i friends, so I knew you are neither Christian nor Muslim, but have roots from both)

Really, we have the same relationship to Islam that Christianity has to Judaism. Not as much Christian influence as you might think, however. Keep in mind that Iran was 95% Shi'ite. There weren't hardly any Christians around to influence us. We had a lot of converts from Judaism and Zoroastrianism in Iran, but not Christians. I wrote an article discussing this which you can read here:

Conversion of Religious Minorities to the Bahá'í Faith in Iran
 
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Really, we have the same relationship to Islam that Christianity has to Judaism. Not as much Christian influence as you might think, however. Keep in mind that Iran was 95% Shi'ite. There weren't hardly any Christians around to influence us. We had a lot of converts from Judaism and Zoroastrianism in Iran, but not Christians. I wrote an article discussing this which you can read here:

Conversion of Religious Minorities to the Bahá'í Faith in Iran

Looks like I will never be too old to learn something every day.

Thanks for the link.
 
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It seems I had a severe case of selective Memory failure.

In my mind I was looking upon that as political Hindi/Punjabi (Pakistan/Indian) not Religious Hindu/Muslim

Except a lot of the violence occurred in Mumbai. Remember what happened at the Taj?
A lot of the violence has more to do with the status of Kashmir than the Punjab.
 
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Looks like I will never be too old to learn something every day.

Thanks for the link.

I think what may leave you with the impression that the Baha'i Faith has more linkages with Christianity is the fact that for a long time Baha'is in America had very little contact with those in the Middle East. That ended with the Iranian diaspora after 1979 but by then we had acquired a very separate identity. Also, the person who originally brought the Faith to America was a Lebanese of Christian background who very much tied Christian prophecies to the Baha'i revelation. That still finds reflection in books like Thief in the Night by William Sears.
 
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I think what may leave you with the impression that the Baha'i Faith has more linkages with Christianity is the fact that for a long time Baha'is in America had very little contact with those in the Middle East. That ended with the Iranian diaspora after 1979 but by then we had acquired a very separate identity. Also, the person who originally brought the Faith to America was a Lebanese of Christian background who very much tied Christian prophecies to the Baha'i revelation. That still finds reflection in books like Thief in the Night by William Sears.

That sounds about right.
 
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