What Would Falsify the Flood?

[Golan]

Does that include the administration here at CF?

Now I know you're suffering.

 

[mzungu]

Now I know you're suffering.

Ease up Golan; there is no need to attack people's beliefs. This is a debate forum and what one's beliefs are, are not a matter of ridicule. Let us stick to the topic at hand please!

A global flood is basically an impossibility for one simple reason; there is not enough water to cover all the land masses.

 

[Golan]

Does that include the administration here at CF?

Now I know you're suffering.

Ease up Golan; there is no need to attack people's beliefs. This is a debate forum and what one's beliefs are, are not a matter of ridicule. Let us stick to the topic at hand please!

A global flood is basically an impossibility for one simple reason; there is not enough water to cover all the land masses.

AV1611VET is deliberately trying to put me into conflict with the administration to get them to ban me,
he will eventually succeed because he is a Christian and Christians here can never be seen to be wrong,
even when they are.

 

[mzungu]

AV1611VET is deliberately trying to put me into conflict with the administration to get them to ban me,
he will eventually succeed because he is a Christian and Christians here can never be seen to be wrong,
even when they are.

Golan; admittedly we are at a disadvantage, but in any debate forum all parties are bound to civility towards each other.

I am sorry but venting your frustration by attacking their religious beliefs is a no, no in any debate forum. I and am sure others here welcome your input into CF debates. We should stick to our science arguments if we are to be above those who are condescending towards us.

I have known many creationists here who's sole purpose is indeed to have atheists banned, but I can assure you AV is not one of them.

Yes, he has, to say the least, weird ideas but that is no reason to attack his beliefs.

I beg you to refrain from attacking one's religious beliefs as this is the surest way to have you banished from CF.

Take care!

 

[Subduction Zone]

All you have to do with AV is to demand that he support his views with science, and that without science he has nothing in a scientific debate. You can remind him nicely there are other parts of this forum where religious belief may be debated. Though the mods put a pretty heavy damper on that. In many of those debates they don't even allow atheists. They probably fear, and rightfully so, that atheists would win those debates.

 

[Aman777]

All you have to do with AV is to demand that he support his views with science, and that without science he has nothing in a scientific debate. You can remind him nicely there are other parts of this forum where religious belief may be debated. Though the mods put a pretty heavy damper on that. In many of those debates they don't even allow atheists. They probably fear, and rightfully so, that atheists would win those debates.

Dear SZ, Is that why you run from debate with me? It's because I support my views with science, isn't it? Also, bring on the Atheists, since they agree with the Godless Evols here, and are so easy to defeat. I've never seen an Atheist who had ANY idea what the Scientific Truth of the Creation is. Do you?

In Love,
Aman

 

[AV1611VET]

All you have to do with AV is to demand that he support his views with science,

Science can take a hike.

 

[mzungu]

Dear SZ, Is that why you run from debate with me? It's because I support my views with science, isn't it? Also, bring on the Atheists, since they agree with the Godless Evols here, and are so easy to defeat. I've never seen an Atheist who had ANY idea what the Scientific Truth of the Creation is. Do you?

In Love,
Aman

What on earth is an EVOL

Aman, you have failed miserably to show us one single shred of evidence for creationism. Is it so much to ask? Just give us one. Creationism is based on the supernatural and thus does not belong to the realms of the physical world and as a result not something science deals with. Now if you want to include the support of science into your claims then you have to abide by the rules governing science.

Please clarify and provide us with that one piece of evidence. Thank you.

 

[Aman777]

What on earth is an EVOL

Dear mzungu, Evol is short for Evolutionists who worship at the Altar of Evolutionism. They think Darwin is God and when you die, you go to the Galapagos Islands. Most of them reject God's Truth because they think they are smarter than God. Professing themselves to be wise, they became Fools, Scripture tells us. Rom 1:22

Aman, you have failed miserably to show us one single shred of evidence for creationism. Is it so much to ask? Just give us one. Creationism is based on the supernatural and thus does not belong to the realms of the physical world and as a result not something science deals with. Now if you want to include the support of science into your claims then you have to abide by the rules governing science.

Genesis is TRUE to Science and History, while the Lie of Evolutionism is nothing but an incomplete, untrue, false asssumption of men who are afraid of a righteous judgment, so they make it up as they go. They teach their Lies to little children, in an attempt to take more people with them into their evil future. So does Satan.

Please clarify and provide us with that one piece of evidence. Thank you.

I've posted this over and over and so far, NO Evol has been able to answer. Most of them flee from God's Truth in Genesis which tells us:

We live in a Multiverse. Gen 1:6-8 and Gen 2:4
The Big Bang, or beginning of our Cosmos, was on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4
All living creatures were created and brought forth from the water on the 5th Day. Gen 1:21
Humans are produced when prehistoric people marry and produce children with Adam's descendants Gen 6:4
Noah brought Adam's Human intelligence to our Planet and the LORD scattered Humanity over the whole Earth from Babel and they went forth and produced Human Civilization all over Planet at about the SAME time. Gen 11:9 and Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

So, it's your time to tell us HOW ancient men knew these things thousands of years ago, long before Science, and wrote them in Genesis. I predict you will run away with the rest of the Evols here who cannot tell us HOW ancient men knew this. God Bless you and please don't run away until you answer this post.

In Love,
Aman

 

[mzungu]

Dear mzungu, Evol is short for Evolutionists who worship at the Altar of Evolutionism. They think Darwin is God and when you die, you go to the Galapagos Islands. Most of them reject God's Truth because they think they are smarter than God. Professing themselves to be wise, they became Fools, Scripture tells us. Rom 1:22

How can we think we are smarter than something we don't believe exists

Genesis is TRUE to Science and History,

Should I laugh or should I cry. This is such a falacy I don't even know where to start.

while the Lie of Evolutionism is nothing but an incomplete, untrue, false asssumption of men who are afraid of a righteous judgment, so they make it up as they go. They teach their Lies to little children, in an attempt to take more people with them into their evil future. So does Satan.

A typical tactic of creationists who have nothing of value to add to a debate; they resort to insulting their fellow posters. Go ahead and insult all you want. I don't remember ever reading in the Bible where Jesus instructs anyone to insult a fellow human. Shame on you.

I've posted this over and over and so far, NO Evol has been able to answer. Most of them flee from God's Truth in Genesis which tells us:

We live in a Multiverse. Gen 1:6-8 and Gen 2:4

The word Multiverse and the notion of such a thing did not exist in biblical times where the people who wrote the bible thought the earth to be flat.

The Big Bang, or beginning of our Cosmos, was on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4
All living creatures were created and brought forth from the water on the 5th Day. Gen 1:21
Humans are produced when prehistoric people marry and produce children with Adam's descendants Gen 6:4
Noah brought Adam's Human intelligence to our Planet and the LORD scattered Humanity over the whole Earth from Babel and they went forth and produced Human Civilization all over Planet at about the SAME time. Gen 11:9 and Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

knock yourself out if it makes you feel good. Science will still continue without your mythological claims.

So, it's your time to tell us HOW ancient men knew these things thousands of years ago, long before Science, and wrote them in Genesis. I predict you will run away with the rest of the Evols here who cannot tell us HOW ancient men knew this. God Bless you and please don't run away until you answer this post.

For one who has failed miserably to furnish us with even a single piece of evidence supporting creationism and your very outlandish claims; I think that is a little too rich.

In Love,
Aman

The hate you express in your post is in direct conflict with this.

 

[TLK Valentine]

How can we think we are smarter than something we don't believe exists

Technically it's possible -- like comparing oneself to a character in any other book.

Should I laugh or should I cry. This is such a falacy I don't even know where to start.

Laugh -- it's healthier for you in the long run.

A typical tactic of creationists who have nothing of value to add to a debate; they resort to insulting their fellow posters. Go ahead and insult all you want. I don't remember ever reading in the Bible where Jesus instructs anyone to insult a fellow human. Shame on you.

It's not so much a Creationist tactic as it is an unfortunate side effect of certain religions -- the belief that one group of people is "chosen" leads to a certain contempt for the "unchosen" -- once they realize they can't take you under their wing.

The word Multiverse and the notion of such a thing did not exist in biblical times where the people who wrote the bible thought the earth to be flat.

Well, "flat" is a bit of a misunderstanding, there, but the Hebrew cosmology is pretty clear as to what they considered the universe to be -- and only the most whimsical of interpretations can reconcile that with the scientific concept of a multiverse.

I've repeatedly engaged Aman in discussions concerning the difference between his whimsy and God's word -- he usually responds by repeating the whimsy... often verbatim.

 

[pgp_protector]

Dear mzungu, Evol is short for Evolutionists who worship at the Altar of Evolutionism. They think Darwin is God and when you die, you go to the Galapagos Islands.

...snip....

So Evol =
1) Worship at Altar of Evolutionism[sup](Sp)[/sup] (I.E. No One)
2) Think Darwin is God (I.E. No One)
3) When you die you go to the Galapagos Islands (I.E. No One)

So Evos to You Don't exist and are purely made up in your head.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Dear SZ, Is that why you run from debate with me? It's because I support my views with science, isn't it? Also, bring on the Atheists, since they agree with the Godless Evols here, and are so easy to defeat. I've never seen an Atheist who had ANY idea what the Scientific Truth of the Creation is. Do you?

In Love,
Aman

Best laugh in two days.

 

[Loudmouth]

No they wouldn't.

Then what would?

What evidence, if found, would falsify a recent global flood?

 

[AV1611VET]

Then what would?

What evidence, if found, would falsify a recent global flood?

The Garden of Eden.

 

[Loudmouth]

The Garden of Eden.

How does that answer my question?

Let's be more specific. What features would a geologic formation need in order for it to falsify a recent global flood?

 

[Aman777]

Dear mzungu, Evol is short for Evolutionists who worship at the Altar of Evolutionism. They think Darwin is God and when you die, you go to the Galapagos Islands. Most of them reject God's Truth because they think they are smarter than God. Professing themselves to be wise, they became Fools, Scripture tells us. Rom 1:22
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How can we think we are smarter than something we don't believe exists

Dear mzungu, You are not measured by your ability to dodge questions. Try to do better.

Genesis is TRUE to Science and History,

Should I laugh or should I cry. This is such a falacy I don't even know where to start.

Again, you dodge. Do you always try to insult the intelligence of Adults?

while the Lie of Evolutionism is nothing but an incomplete, untrue, false asssumption of men who are afraid of a righteous judgment, so they make it up as they go. They teach their Lies to little children, in an attempt to take more people with them into their evil future. So does Satan.
​

A typical tactic of creationists who have nothing of value to add to a debate; they resort to insulting their fellow posters. Go ahead and insult all you want. I don't remember ever reading in the Bible where Jesus instructs anyone to insult a fellow human. Shame on you.

Again you dodge by implying that it is me who is dodging and spewing forth negativisms and shaming me like I'm a little boy.


I've posted this over and over and so far, NO Evol has been able to answer. Most of them flee from God's Truth in Genesis which tells us:

We live in a Multiverse. Gen 1:6-8 and Gen 2:4

The word Multiverse and the notion of such a thing did not exist in biblical times where the people who wrote the bible thought the earth to be flat.

Actually read Gen 1:6-8 and you will see that God made the first firmament which He called Heaven on the 2nd Day. Then read Gen 2:4 and you should see that God made other "heavenS" plural, on the 3rd Day. If you can count that's at least 3 Universes within our Multiverse. Right? How could the people who wrote the Bible know that 3k years ago?

The Big Bang, or beginning of our Cosmos, was on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4
All living creatures were created and brought forth from the water on the 5th Day. Gen 1:21
Humans are produced when prehistoric people marry and produce children with Adam's descendants Gen 6:4
Noah brought Adam's Human intelligence to our Planet and the LORD scattered Humanity over the whole Earth from Babel and they went forth and produced Human Civilization all over Planet at about the SAME time. Gen 11:9 and Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE
​

knock yourself out if it makes you feel good. Science will still continue without your mythological claims.

The map of the fertile crescent is NOT a myth, but shows the arrival of the first Humans on our Earth some 10k years ago. Your dodging and weaving is getting boring since you failed miserably to refute a single verse I posted. Is this your normal way of debate? To treat your opponant as a child with you as grand master?

So, it's your time to tell us HOW ancient men knew these things thousands of years ago, long before Science, and wrote them in Genesis. I predict you will run away with the rest of the Evols here who cannot tell us HOW ancient men knew this. God Bless you and please don't run away until you answer this post.
​

For one who has failed miserably to furnish us with even a single piece of evidence supporting creationism and your very outlandish claims; I think that is a little too rich.

That's WHY I posted the secular map of the Fertile Crescent. You did not even try to refute it because you have nothing but disagreement to post. Where is YOUR empirical evidence that I am wrong? I haven't seen anything but rhetoric so far.

In Love,
Aman
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The hate you express in your post is in direct conflict with this.

See what I mean. When I post in Love, you take offense. Do you equate disagreement with your views as hate? It's not hate, it's the Truth. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[bhsmte]

There goes the neighborhood!

 

[Loudmouth]

Dear mzungu, Evol is short for Evolutionists who worship at the Altar of Evolutionism. They think Darwin is God and when you die, you go to the Galapagos Islands. Most of them reject God's Truth because they think they are smarter than God. Professing themselves to be wise, they became Fools, Scripture tells us. Rom 1:22
​

How can we think we are smarter than something we don't believe exists

Dear mzungu, You are not measured by your ability to dodge questions. Try to do better.

Genesis is TRUE to Science and History,


Again, you dodge. Do you always try to insult the intelligence of Adults?

while the Lie of Evolutionism is nothing but an incomplete, untrue, false asssumption of men who are afraid of a righteous judgment, so they make it up as they go. They teach their Lies to little children, in an attempt to take more people with them into their evil future. So does Satan.
​

Again you dodge by implying that it is me who is dodging and spewing forth negativisms and shaming me like I'm a little boy.


I've posted this over and over and so far, NO Evol has been able to answer. Most of them flee from God's Truth in Genesis which tells us:

We live in a Multiverse. Gen 1:6-8 and Gen 2:4


Actually read Gen 1:6-8 and you will see that God made the first firmament which He called Heaven on the 2nd Day. Then read Gen 2:4 and you should see that God made other "heavenS" plural, on the 3rd Day. If you can count that's at least 3 Universes within our Multiverse. Right? How could the people who wrote the Bible know that 3k years ago?

The Big Bang, or beginning of our Cosmos, was on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4
All living creatures were created and brought forth from the water on the 5th Day. Gen 1:21
Humans are produced when prehistoric people marry and produce children with Adam's descendants Gen 6:4
Noah brought Adam's Human intelligence to our Planet and the LORD scattered Humanity over the whole Earth from Babel and they went forth and produced Human Civilization all over Planet at about the SAME time. Gen 11:9 and Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE
​

The map of the fertile crescent is NOT a myth, but shows the arrival of the first Humans on our Earth some 10k years ago. Your dodging and weaving is getting boring since you failed miserably to refute a single verse I posted. Is this your normal way of debate? To treat your opponant as a child with you as grand master?

So, it's your time to tell us HOW ancient men knew these things thousands of years ago, long before Science, and wrote them in Genesis. I predict you will run away with the rest of the Evols here who cannot tell us HOW ancient men knew this. God Bless you and please don't run away until you answer this post.
​

That's WHY I posted the secular map of the Fertile Crescent. You did not even try to refute it because you have nothing but disagreement to post. Where is YOUR empirical evidence that I am wrong? I haven't seen anything but rhetoric so far.

In Love,
Aman
​

See what I mean. When I post in Love, you take offense. Do you equate disagreement with your views as hate? It's not hate, it's the Truth. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

Posting a secular map of London is not evidence that the Harry Potter books are true just because London is mentioned in the books.

Posting a secular map of the Fertile Crescent is not evidence for the myths in the Bible, and for the same reasons.

 

[AV1611VET]

How does that answer my question?

What do you mean, how does that answer your question?

If I claimed Hurricane Katrina was worldwide, would finding a newspaper from the day before Katrina on someone's coffee table in Shanghai falsify her?

Let's be more specific.

Oh, of course -- let's do.

That tells me you did understand my answer.

What features would a geologic formation need in order for it to falsify a recent global flood?

A sedimentary formation in New Jersey, with Noah's Ark embedded in it?