I have a question about why some denominations dont Speaking in tongues

[Pastor Glenn]

I was raised in an evangelical denomination that did not believe in speaking in tongues and felt that pretty much anything to do with the Holy Spirit other than his indwelling at salvation was purely for the first century church. At the age of 19 I was shocked to discover differently. I received the fullness of the Holy Spirit myself. I was ostracized by family but could not argue with my first hand experience. Today, I am a credentialed Pentecostal Pastor and I believe in the present day reality of Holy Ghost power.
Some denominations are almost scared but certainly blind to the truth about tongues. While a person can be a Born Again Christian without speaking in tongues, they are missing out on so much and could experience the fullness God wants to give them if they only surrender to him.
Would love to chat more on this !
Pastor Glenn

 

[Alithis]

I received it from the day one after getting baptizied in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. He has continued lead me as long as I yield and submit to Him! The signs of transformed lives are the conditions of His work. The fruit of the Spirit is not visible. Physical signs are meant for unbelieving people.

then i rejoice that some of the doctrinal stances you presently adhere to will fall away as you grow in god .
did you receive the gift of tongues ?

 

[Digout]

then i rejoice that some of the doctrinal stances you presently adhere to will fall away as you grow in god .
did you receive the gift of tongues ?

I am not trying to grow with a god! My God the Father has blessed me with wisdom and knowledge to prefer what is best for me. I prefer prophesying as Paul advised. God will not be interested in blessing something that remains unknown to me or others.

 

[Alithis]

I am not trying to grow with a god! My God the Father has blessed me with wisdom and knowledge to prefer what is best for me. I prefer prophesying as Paul advised. God will not be interested in blessing something that remains unknown to me or others.

o0k so to be fair and reasonable ..lets clarify .. you have received the gift of tongues ?
or
you have not received the gift of tongues ?

its not a qualifier there is no haves and have nots ..one is no better then one without as it is a gift ..it cannot be earned nor purchased.

just trying to raise the question of how can a person who has never received the gift of tongues teach anything in regard to that gift ,other then the basic outline already given in the scriptures ?

 

[Alithis]

I was raised in an evangelical denomination that did not believe in speaking in tongues and felt that pretty much anything to do with the Holy Spirit other than his indwelling at salvation was purely for the first century church. At the age of 19 I was shocked to discover differently. I received the fullness of the Holy Spirit myself. I was ostracized by family but could not argue with my first hand experience. Today, I am a credentialed Pentecostal Pastor and I believe in the present day reality of Holy Ghost power.
Some denominations are almost scared but certainly blind to the truth about tongues. While a person can be a Born Again Christian without speaking in tongues, they are missing out on so much and could experience the fullness God wants to give them if they only surrender to him.
Would love to chat more on this !
Pastor Glenn

thank you for sharing

chat away

 

[Digout]

o0k so to be fair and reasonable ..lets clarify .. you have received the gift of tongues ?
or
you have not received the gift of tongues ?

Where is the question of receiving it when I don't need it?

its not a qualifier there is no haves and have nots ..one is no better then one without as it is a gift ..it cannot be earned nor purchased.

just trying to raise the question of how can a person who has never received the gift of tongues teach anything in regard to that gift ,other then the basic outline already given in the scriptures ?

Spiritual gifts are for common good. There are other gifts that I earnestly seek and blessed with.

 

[Alithis]

Where is the question of receiving it when I don't need it?



Spiritual gifts are for common good. There are other gifts that I earnestly seek and blessed with.

... just answer the question ..this is not politics lol

i think however we are all going to assume your answer is .. NO you have not received the gift of tongues .

i think , that being the case .would it not be more beneficial to ask God for this gift ..? then to go around making statements about something you don't yet have any experiential knowledge of?

and to say you don't need it ..has implications . your implying you don't need edifying .. you don't need the holy Spirit to make intercession for you ,etc ...iv encouraged you before to think further forward about what you say in regards to where it leads .

or is the true heart of it that you have been taught by someone that these things are not for today ? if so you have been told a lie -quite simply .

 

[Digout]

... just answer the question ..this is not politics lol

i think however we are all going to assume your answer is .. NO you have not received the gift of tongues .

My statement obviously leads to the same conclusion. Let me emphatically say that I am not interested in receiving such a gift that depends on another gift! A double trouble for a right minded person. I reverentially want to use one of the best gifts of all, human intelligent language.

i think , that being the case .would it not be more beneficial to ask God for this gift ..? then to go around making statements about something you don't yet have any experiential knowledge of?

Let me say again that I prefer prophesying.

and to say you don't need it ..has implications . your implying you don't need edifying .. you don't need the holy Spirit to make intercession for you ,etc ...iv encouraged you before to think further forward about what you say in regards to where it leads .

The Holy Spirit will intercede for me even when I don't speak. He can understand my thoughts and feelings.

or is the true heart of it that you have been taught by someone that these things are not for today ? if so you have been told a lie -quite simply .

Spiritual gifts that were listed and not listed have continued and will continue. However, Corinthian conditions have ceased.

 

[jiminpa]

All spiritual gifts are the manifestation of the Spirit for the use of common good. This is different from direct involvement of the Holy Spirit's utterances on Pentecost through disciples. On Pentecost the utterances in a foreign language did not go as a waste. In Corinthian condition, without an interpreter it becomes a waste! Once the gifts are given, it is left to the person to utilise it for good. The Holy Spirit has no part to play subsequently.

I'm sorry but I missed the part that says that known languages were spoken during that Pentecost.

 

[jiminpa]

I smell a devra.

 

[Digout]

I'm sorry but I missed the part that says that known languages were spoken during that Pentecost.

That is OK. On Pentecost, disciples spoke existing foreign languages unknown to the speakers but recognized by the people present because the Holy Spirit gave them the utterances. This trend continued at various other places at the beginning of the establishment of Churches recorded in the book of Acts. Hence, no interpreter was required.

 

[Alithis]

My statement obviously leads to the same conclusion. Let me emphatically say that I am not interested in receiving such a gift that depends on another gift! A double trouble for a right minded person. I reverentially want to use one of the best gifts of all, human intelligent language.
tongues is one of the predominant manifestations that a person is being baptized in the Holy Spirit and who are you to reject what God offers ? how insulting ,why do you still never consider the things you say before you say them .


Let me say again that I prefer prophesying.
unless your doing so by the utterance of the Holy Spirit you may do so from your own imaginations


The Holy Spirit will intercede for me even when I don't speak. He can understand my thoughts and feelings.
misses the point .-again


Spiritual gifts that were listed and not listed have continued and will continue. However, Corinthian conditions have ceased.
this is just another -"you don't believe in Pauls letters "speal

its getting old .. stop implying the bible is a lie

 

[jiminpa]

That is OK. On Pentecost, disciples spoke existing foreign languages unknown to the speakers but recognized by the people present because the Holy Spirit gave them the utterances. This trend continued at various other places at the beginning of the establishment of Churches recorded in the book of Acts. Hence, no interpreter was required.

Do have scripture for those assumptions?

 

[jiminpa]

Guys, digout is devra. Apparently, the sex change operation wasn't a success.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7786857/#post64474697--another attempt at selling his worthless books.

 

[Digout]

its getting old .. stop implying the bible is a lie

Much of translated versions are distortions. It is getting worse with passing of the time.

 

[Digout]

Do have scripture for those assumptions?

Do you find an interpreter anywhere else in the Bible?

 

[Alithis]

Guys, digout is devra. Apparently, the sex change operation wasn't a success.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7786857/#post64474697--another attempt at selling his worthless books.

devra? actually dont promote it by replying here,just msg me

 

[Alithis]

see if we can drag this one back on topic also....

hi there! My name is Mel, and I have a question that have been troubling me. Some times when I would be in non-denominational churches, some people who claim to be Christians are actually opsed to speaking in tongues. This Shocked me and I feel strongly like that is OBVIOUS blasphemy. On the day of Pentecost the disciples were BLESSed with the gift of tongues and it says "the HOLY spirit came upon them". Matthew 22-32 Jesus rebuked the Pharisees because they accused Jesus' power to be of the devil. And likewise it seems like people are accusing a Holy gift to be evil when its not. Isn't that blasphemy against the spirit? I understand why they might not do it in church because new believers might be overwlemed, but this is just talking about when people actually go as far as to thinking its evil when its not. i could have more to dig and be revealed and this is open for discussion to polite people only

maybe you misunderstood what they said,perhaps they were speaking of the order of a gathered meeting?

other then that i find that doubt and unbelief are insdiously easy to pass on,they are like spiritual viruses passed on by word of mouth. there are unwitting folk out there who carry this disease of unbelief..leaning on thier own understanding they doubt ,then contract the sin of unbelief,open thier mouths and start spreading it.

 

[RevP]

Many churches, non necessarily denominations per say, have in their doctrines that they do not believe in things such as speaking in tongues. I will give you an example, some years ago, some children were passing out tracs from a local church. Those tracs told the reader a little bit about the church and their doctrine. Two things raised my eyebrows, one their doctrine specifically stated that all miracles that took place in the Bible, ceased to exist once the Bible was completed. And there were no more miracles being preformed today. The other thing that did it was the fact that a 14 year old was telling my wife se wasn't saved. So the short answer is yes there are Christians and churches opposed to speaking in tongues. The same folks who might tell you how to live right, but aren't doing it themselves. Ephesians 4 tells us how we are supposed to come together as the body of Christ. I am praying that we will get there. ~Blessings~

 

[Alithis]

Many churches, non necessarily denominations per say, have in their doctrines that they do not believe in things such as speaking in tongues. I will give you an example, some years ago, some children were passing out tracs from a local church. Those tracs told the reader a little bit about the church and their doctrine. Two things raised my eyebrows, one their doctrine specifically stated that all miracles that took place in the Bible, ceased to exist once the Bible was completed. And there were no more miracles being preformed today. The other thing that did it was the fact that a 14 year old was telling my wife se wasn't saved. So the short answer is yes there are Christians and churches opposed to speaking in tongues. The same folks who might tell you how to live right, but aren't doing it themselves. Ephesians 4 tells us how we are supposed to come together as the body of Christ. I am praying that we will get there. ~Blessings~

i think they(whom you describe) are filed under the term ceassationist .sad that children are being taught and then promoting something that is plainly not true