I was refering to the energy released from the movement of the plates, not heat from the star. Also, the bible says they drowned. It says nothing about earthquakes and nothing about vulcanism. The best comparison with what we see today for the "bursting of the fountains of the deep" would be geysers, not vulcanism. Also, why is there no evidence of this event in the geological record?
That is why I said the bible says nothing about a blue whale's tongue weighing more than an elephant. God expects you to deduce, induce and reduce information from the "bread crumbs" give already. If you are an erudite believer, you would understand a dead star coming upon the earth would cause seismic activity. If you were a physicist, you would know a dead star coming upon the earth would produce gravitational and electrodynamic perturbations what would cause breaking of "plates." This is not metaphysics as I said before; this is science. Go to your local physics department college and ask then what would happen if a Jovian mass came upon the earth.
Why is there no geological record? EVERYONE DIED EXCEPT EIGHT PEOPLE. And there are petroglyphs. How much more doom do you want? They made petryglyphs because they figured those would survive. Even submerged rock is still ROCK with engravings.
The part I find that is far-fetched is the idea that this event caused the rapid breakup of Pangea into what we have today. The rest is plausible as an idea, but there is no evidence in the geological record to back it up, no dwarf star identified (and yes, I know it would be hard to find if the orbit was extreme) and the scriptural support you provided is as I said, thin at best.Ho hum (no disrespect.) I am literally bored with the "no record" argument. No one with out security clearance has a time machine. So, academic canon of today about the earth of "yesterday" is conjecture at best. Revelation uses the same name NASA uses for the dwarf star - both call it a star. Have you seen the Fifth Element? They are basically begging people to be aware so that they have a challenge. Too bad they have taught people too well how to scoff, rather than indulge and entertain.
Thank you.
No problem. We can disagree all day long. You know in our fields everyone had the "right" answer. It is nothing new to me. It should be nothing new to you. Respect, should be bond between us - no matter how much we ague, or disagree.
What effect would this passing have on earth's orbit? Certainly much worse than what scripture describes.
I will simply put: that is why there are apocryphal books. I am not a fan of bible canon in the West. Take that as you will, or ask me what I mean.
Why can you not provide some citation for this? Do you ask your readers to find it for you when you write a paper?
Because we are in the age of google. And, you make it worse for yourself by saying you are a doctorate of biology. You know the power of research, and because you expressed that tidbit of info, I hold you at a higher level of responsibility. You can easily find out the info for yourself. I would (in all honestly) be diminishing your intellectual prowess by giving you the info. You can easily find it.
CAVEAT: I saw the NASA document when I was tethered to Columbia's network. I do not know if it is available to you. I believe it was a Springer document, which usually means you have to pay if your server is not a subscriber. You may be able to read the abstract. In any case, I cannot give you the "citation" now because I am no longer a part of Columbia's server - and therefore privy to Springer subscriptions. That is why I said google it (as I said, I was not being insulting.)
Why can you not provide some citation for this? Do you ask your readers to find it for you when you write a paper?
See above.
I am contesting your assertion that the bible authors considered the sun to be a star. This should have little to do with any NASA document.
Then, I would suggest you read the bible. The biblical heroes were not dumb; they knew about celestial mechanics. They knew a sun is a star. Like I said, if you are "man enough" (jokes,) read apocryphal books - namely Enoch. There are several stars named after humans - humans who know suns are stars.
See above. This is a discussion forum. You should be prepared for others to contest your claims. I am not disrespectful of scripture, btw.
I didn't say you are disrespectful. In fact, I found a new respect of you as a scientific academic colleague. However, we can still vehemently disagree.
I am prepared for contest, but I challenge my opponents to discover their own information. That is why I kept saying, "look it up on google," or "seek out the NASA documents." You outing yourself as a Ph.D. in biology makes me more critical of you, and your research methods. You aren't a scientific layperson, so I expect much more from you.
He only drank the stuff because he couldn't find a way to fulfill Koch's postulates by infecting piglets.
We argue enough, no matter how much I think I know, that is a biology thing. I am not going to argue with you about biology. You win (seriously.) Your turn (w.r.t physcis)?
Why can you not provide some citation for this? Do you ask your readers to find it for you when you write a paper?
Because we are in the age of google. That would have been enough if I didn't know you were a Ph.D in biology. We are in the age of google + doctorate learned research. That is fully why.
To answer your question, sometimes I ask my readers to find it when I write a paper. Sometimes.
Why can you not provide some citation for this? Do you ask your readers to find it for you when you write a paper?
See above. You and I both outed ourselves when we professed our professions. Unfortunately for you, I am your [tangential] colleague as a physicist. So as a Ph.D, I don't let you get away with what laypersons can get away with. May cause more tension with us, whatever. If you got your Ph.D., you are used to tension - you have to be (your thesis council had to be enough tension.) Just because we are academic peers doesn't mean we can't disagree. I respect your right of disagreement.
I was raised Catholic, but no longer believe. That should have little to do with what the physical evidence tells us, however.
You know what a mathematician would say to that... right?![]()
Mathematicians answer to God? LOL if that is what you think, you truly must be a biologist. That is a scientific inside joke.
[quote[BTW: I did a Google search for "NASA Wormwood" and got all kinds of hits covering doomsday planet, asteroids, prophesies, and all kinds of stuff.
Yea, well I didn't tell you about the B.S. you would have to shovel through lol...
Disinformation is rampant. Like I said above, I was quoting a website I [think I] had access to as part of Columbia's network. I am not even sure you will have access to the Springer documents I saw. Sorry; I know it is lame, but that is the truth. Columbia's network had access to documents I found out were special to Columbia (once I was not part of their network.) So, yea apologies for not finding wormwood... it doesn't help my argument. But I saw it (if my word means anything.) I would say if you care, look it up and research hard.
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