What I am explaining about the Jew/Gentile issue in Ro. 9 is totally in context, so not a Red Herring, while trying to draw parallels between Jeremiah 18 and Ro. 9 might be considered a Red Herring.Bling,
This is a red herring.
You are wanting me to go on your tangent when you don't seem to want to understand the Israelite worldview and God's understanding that he gave them of the potter and the clay throughout the OT and especially in Jeremiah 18.
God hardened Pharaoh's heart at the same time as Pharoah hardened his own heart.
To further understand God, the potter, and the nation/human being as the clay from a Jewish worldview (which was the apostle Paul's background) - the sovereignty of God and the human responsibility of human beings - see the article, 'Who Hardened Pharaoh's Heart?' by Dave Miller & Kyle Butt.
In Christ,
Oz
As far as hardening of a persons heart (I really do not need to read Dave Miller, but might later read it to see if they agree with me:
The same opportunities (lots of times these are tragedies) God provides for us can: soften our hearts or harden our hearts, depending on how we accept the opportunity. Now Pharaoh had lots of opportunities from God to humbly drop to his knees and accept Gods Forgiveness, but there would also come a time (which only God could know), when a sinner reaches a point at which they will never repent and from that point on they take on a lesser purpose for their life (Pharaoh might have reached that state way before Moses came on the seen, so Pharaoh was not going to change).
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