the unpardonable sin

[Anthony9716]

I am afraid i have committed the unpardonable sin because when i am counting sometimes these thoughts pop in to my head.

 

[turned around]

Hi Anthony,
If you are in Christ you cannot commit that sin. You were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise.

 

[turned around]

Hi Anthony,
If you are in Christ you cannot commit that sin. You were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise.

 

[Anthony9716]

Yes i am in Christ i have been for eight years now but as i said a voice just pops in to my mind and says blasphemies against the Holy Spirt how should i stop this?

 

[turned around]

Hi,
Romans 8:2 talks about the spirit of life in Christ Jesus, and romans 8:15-17 talks a out the Father, not giving us a spirit of fear to bondage. Ephesians 1 where it talks about being sealed with the Spirit would be a great verse to mediated.

 

[turned around]

Just take it easy Anthony!!!!!!

 

[turned around]

Just take it easy Anthony!!!!!!

 

[98cwitr]

Counting? Counting what?

 

[56Bluesman]

You haven't committed the unpardonable sin, believe me. However I don't know if you are dealing with any emotional or mental issues in your life. I went through exactly the same thing you did after I became a Christian at age 15, long, long, ago, as far as having weird blasphemous thoughts pop in my head. Yes I thought I'd committed the unpardonable sin, and it caused me great terror and spiritual/mental agony. What I was really dealing with, was emotional stress and clinical depression at the time. I got mental health counseling for those issues, and I also got spiritual counseling as well, because we Christians also fight a spiritual battle against a lying and deceiving enemy, and on top of that, many troubled Christians have a poor theological and scriptural understanding of what the unpardonable sin really is.

I encourage you to find good pastoral counseling that can help you with any possible emotional and spiritual issues.

 

[Anthony9716]

counting numbers

 

[Mikaeri]

You haven't committed the unpardonable sin, believe me. However I don't know if you are dealing with any emotional or mental issues in your life. I went through exactly the same thing you did after I became a Christian at age 15, long, long, ago, as far as having weird blasphemous thoughts pop in my head. Yes I thought I'd committed the unpardonable sin, and it caused me great terror and spiritual/mental agony. What I was really dealing with, was emotional stress and clinical depression at the time. I got mental health counseling for those issues, and I also got spiritual counseling as well, because we Christians also fight a spiritual battle against a lying and deceiving enemy, and on top of that, many troubled Christians have a poor theological and scriptural understanding of what the unpardonable sin really is.

I encourage you to find good pastoral counseling that can help you with any possible emotional and spiritual issues.

That would be the best approach Anthony is to get some Christian counselling, especially if you're blaspheming..
To put your mind at rest as far as Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is concerned! if you had, you would NOT be seeking help, your heart would be hardened against Christ.

 

[Bluelion]

Yes i am in Christ i have been for eight years now but as i said a voice just pops in to my mind and says blasphemies against the Holy Spirt how should i stop this?

I have had the same voice, and was terrified for years I had, they went a step froth and tried to get me to do it. Its a lie and comes from satan.

Take up you faith if you love God in your heart you are saved, Don't take confront in the fact satan knows your saved so he must come up with a way for you to be un saved, Have faith, love God. Once saved you are always saved. God does not lose his children.

Praying for you

 

[Mikaeri]

I have had the same voice, and was terrified for years I had, they went a step froth and tried to get me to do it. Its a lie and comes from satan.

Take up you faith if you love God in your heart you are saved, Don't take confront in the fact satan knows your saved so he must come up with a way for you to be un saved, Have faith, love God. Once saved you are always saved. God does not lose his children.

Praying for you

Once saved always saved?..I suggest you read the book of Hebrews as a guideline BlueLion..with a belief like that it gives the Christian licence to keep on sinning..

 

[Bluelion]

Once saved always saved?..I suggest you read the book of Hebrews as a guideline BlueLion..with a belief like that it gives the Christian licence to keep on sinning..

I know Hebrew 6 and you guys always argue the same thing. Fact is Jesus said it is the will of my father that i not lose one of all he has given me. God does not loses his children maybe you should read, and you saying he does is not a baptist view anyway.

With your statement you also say Jesus work on the cross was not enough to save us that we some how keep are salvation, better watch what you say.

 

[DeaconDean]

According to scripture, and all I have studied, and of course, you can take my opinion and $1.50 and buy a Coke, but the unpardonable sin cannot be committed today.

In the first century, during Christ's time here, the Pharisees accused Christ of casting out demons by the power of Belzebub.

This is attributing the works of the Holy Spirit to the devil.

But take heart, even if I am wrong, all scripture says is it will not be forgiven in this life, nor the life to come. It does not say it will cost you your eternal life.

God Bless

Till all are one.

 

[Petruchio]

According to scripture, and all I have studied, and of course, you can take my opinion and $1.50 and buy a Coke, but the unpardonable sin cannot be committed today.

In the first century, during Christ's time here, the Pharisees accused Christ of casting out demons by the power of Belzebub.

This is attributing the works of the Holy Spirit to the devil.

Till all are one.

This was my conclusion as well, for the buck 25 that it is worth, and that of Matthew Henry and other commentators, who are worth a lot more. No Christian is capable of committing this sin, since, otherwise, they wouldn't be a Christian. This is the sin of the Pharisees who witnessed the power of the Holy Spirit right before their eyes and attributed it to the devil.

 

[now faith]

Deacon I am curious as to what prevents this sin from being committed?

Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you. 12:29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house. 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

 

[Bluelion]

According to scripture, and all I have studied, and of course, you can take my opinion and $1.50 and buy a Coke, but the unpardonable sin cannot be committed today.

In the first century, during Christ's time here, the Pharisees accused Christ of casting out demons by the power of Belzebub.

This is attributing the works of the Holy Spirit to the devil.

But take heart, even if I am wrong, all scripture says is it will not be forgiven in this life, nor the life to come. It does not say it will cost you your eternal life.

God Bless

Till all are one.

You are mistaken i do believe, do you remember the couple who committed it and died. please don't name it not on a public forum. It is real, and people can still do it. and anyone can do the same thing the pharisee did, well not a child of God, we all know The Holy Spirit can come through and speak through any child of God.

 

[DeaconDean]

You are mistaken i do believe, do you remember the couple who committed it and died. please don't name it not on a public forum. It is real, and people can still do it. and anyone can do the same thing the pharisee did, well not a child of God, we all know The Holy Spirit can come through and speak through any child of God.

Please read the passages in question again.

"But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.
6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.
7 And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.
8 And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.
9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
10 Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband." -Acts 5:1-10 (KJV)

There is a difference in lying to the Holy Spirit, and committing the sin the Pharisees did.

God Bless

Till all are one.

 

[DeaconDean]

Deacon I am curious as to what prevents this sin from being committed?

Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you. 12:29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house. 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Like I said:

you can take my opinion and $1.50 and buy a Coke

From an article at What is the unpardonable sin / unforgivable sin?:

The case of the “unpardonable sin/unforgivable sin” or “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” is mentioned in Mark 3:22-30 and Matthew 12:22-32. The term “blasphemy” may be generally defined as “defiant irreverence.” We would apply the term to such sins as cursing God or willfully degrading things relating to Him. It is also attributing some evil to God, or denying Him some good that we should attribute to Him. This case of blasphemy, however, is a specific one called “the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit” in Matthew 12:31. In this passage, the Pharisees, having witnessed irrefutable proof that Jesus was working miracles in the power of the Holy Spirit, claimed instead that He was possessed by the demon Beelzebub (Matthew 12:24). In Mark 3:30, Jesus is very specific about what exactly they did to commit “the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.”

This blasphemy then has to do with accusing Jesus Christ (in person, on earth) of being demon-possessed. There are other ways to blaspheme the Holy Spirit (such as lying to Him, as in the case of Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5:1-10), but the accusation against Jesus was the blasphemy that was unpardonable. This specific unpardonable sin against the Holy Spirit cannot be duplicated today.​

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From Bible.org, we read:

The unpardonable sin is defined as blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, because when Christ was on earth, the religious leaders were attributing his miracles to demonic powers when in fact they were the product of the Holy Spirit working in the life of Christ (Matt. 12:12-32). This demonstrated a heart that had become so hard that it precluded repentance because Christ’s words and works were a clear evidence of the ministry of the Holy Spirit in Him as the Anointed One, the Messiah of the Old Testament. To reject Christ and claim His works were from Satan was a clear evidence of both unbelief and an unrepentant heart. That’s why it was considered unpardonable.

Of course, like I said, that is just my opinion.

And opinions are like...noses, everybody has one.

God Bless

Till all are one.