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The Lord's day.
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Imho, I strongly believe Johns reference to the Lords day, is the same day as the day of the Lord, not some week day Sat/Sun etc..
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One can't debate that type. I'd love to spell it out but then there are rules.
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House of ill repute belong to who? Would one say ill repute's house? House of cards? Would one say card's house?
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What is Paul really talking about here?
The latter part of the chapter helps. Try the high lighted portions.
14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
15 But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.
16 Let not then your good be evil spoken of:
17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
18 For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men.
19 Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.
20 For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.
21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
22 Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.
23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
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from scratch makes a good point. The reply is trite.
"The Lord's day" is not the same things as "the day of the Lord". The former is a day that comes once every week. The latter comes but once in the history of this world. The former is a day for Christians to gather in praise, prayer, worship, and communion. The latter is a day for Christians to be gathered up to meet the Lord in the air.
The day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.
The Lord's day comes announced.
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How can we know the truth of God's word when we continue to add or ignore what the text is saying. You know what it refers to and still insinuating other ideas? Why?
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We did not learn that in English class. Why do we ignore the very obvious? The Lord called Sabbath "my holy day". He claimed it His, blessed and Sanctified it to Himself, therefore it is perfectly fitting to say "the Lord's day" when referring to it.
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Why haven't you come back on John's sudden change of saying the Lord's Day when he meant the Sabbath? Everywhere else John uses the word Sabbath. I say John is reflecting the changes presented by the New Covenant. I know you're going to request and require such to be recorded in the Bible. All I have to say is the Bible isn't a text on evolving language habits. Can you show from any historical work the Sabbath being called the Lord's Day? Remember you need at least 2 sources. There are more than 2 sources showing Sunday as the Lord's Day prior to 300 AD.
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Why don't you want to you want to talk about these verses found in the same chapter -
5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.
You've effectively changed the subject of the post you responded to. Verse 5 and 6a clearly speak about a day.
Paul is speaking about judging another and causing a dividing destroying feud. And for what the vanity I'm right so comply or go to hell. Paul also speaks about the liberty we have in Christ and some came in the church to cause trouble and bondage. They required Judaism be practiced to be a Christian. The Jews hated Christians. It is well documented in Acts and the issue carried on in the churches as evidenced by several epistles/books.
The pro grace people allow you to worship on the Sabbath without objection. This would be in line with the above text from Romans. The pro law people demand one worships on the Sabbath or forfeit their salvation. This is judging another's servant which you have no authority to do. You have no leg to stand on. There is no salvation in Judaism or the covenant that regulates them issued at Sinai.
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The setting of the entire Book of Revelation revolves around that theme. It is also a grave mistake to rip it apart and bring any of that future event to the past as many "experts" have done. "The Lord's Day" defined within the context of the entire book and not some vain imagination. The time of Jacob's trouble is also unveiled.
Rev 12:14-17
14 And to the woman (ISRAEL) were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time,(GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD) from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
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The Lord's day.
My bet would be the Passover............
The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
The Destruction Of JERUSALEM
An Absolute and Irresistible
PROOF OF THE DIVINE ORIGIN OF
CHRISTIANITY:
..............The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover.............
The Temple now presented little more than a heap of ruins ; and the Roman army as in triumph on the event, came and reared their ensigns against a fragment of the eastern gate, and, with sacrifices of thanksgiving, proclaimed the imperial majesty of Titus, with every possible demonstration of joy.
For five days after the destruction of the Temple, the priests who had escaped, sat, pining with hunger, on the top of one of its broken walls; at length, they came down, and humbly asked the pardon of Titus, which, however, he refused to grant them, saying, that, "as the Temple, for the sake of which he would have spared them, was destroyed, it was but fit that its priests should parish also:" -whereupon he commanded that they should be put to death.............
Before their final demolition, however, Titus took, a. survey of the city and its fortifications ; and, while contemplating their impregnable strength, could not help ascribing his success to the peculiar interposition of the ALMIGHTY HIMSELF. "Had not God himself (exclaimed he) aided out operations, and driven the Jews from their fortresses, it would have been absolutely impossible to have taken them ; for what could men, and the force of engines, have done against such towers as these ?"
After this he commanded that the city should be commanded razed to its foundations, excepting only the three lofty towers Hippocos, Phasael, and Mariamne
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from scratch makes a good point. The reply is trite.
My bet would be the Passover............
The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
The Destruction Of JERUSALEM
An Absolute and Irresistible
PROOF OF THE DIVINE ORIGIN OF
CHRISTIANITY:
..............The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover.............
The Temple now presented little more than a heap of ruins ; and the Roman army as in triumph on the event, came and reared their ensigns against a fragment of the eastern gate, and, with sacrifices of thanksgiving, proclaimed the imperial majesty of Titus, with every possible demonstration of joy.
For five days after the destruction of the Temple, the priests who had escaped, sat, pining with hunger, on the top of one of its broken walls; at length, they came down, and humbly asked the pardon of Titus, which, however, he refused to grant them, saying, that, "as the Temple, for the sake of which he would have spared them, was destroyed, it was but fit that its priests should parish also:" -whereupon he commanded that they should be put to death.............
Before their final demolition, however, Titus took, a. survey of the city and its fortifications ; and, while contemplating their impregnable strength, could not help ascribing his success to the peculiar interposition of the ALMIGHTY HIMSELF. "Had not God himself (exclaimed he) aided out operations, and driven the Jews from their fortresses, it would have been absolutely impossible to have taken them ; for what could men, and the force of engines, have done against such towers as these ?"
After this he commanded that the city should be commanded razed to its foundations, excepting only the three lofty towers Hippocos, Phasael, and Mariamne
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No because 1:10 isn't about the future.
The setting of the entire Book of Revelation revolves around that theme. It is also a grave mistake to rip it apart and bring any of that future event to the past as many "experts" have done. "The Lord's Day" defined within the context of the entire book and not some vain imagination. The time of Jacob's trouble is also unveiled.
Rev 12:14-17
14 And to the woman (ISRAEL) were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time,(GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD) from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
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