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Can someone send me to the original "Arab phone" thread, it keeps coming up and I don't know what it means. (I assume it's some kind of AV response to "anglophone" when talking about KJV being the original and the translation.)
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26 In the sixth month of Elizabeths pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 27 to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgins name was Mary. 28 The angel went to her and said, Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.
29 Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. 30 But the angel said to her, Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God. 31 You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33 and he will reign over Jacobs descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.
34 How will this be, Mary asked the angel, since I am a virgin?
35 The angel answered, The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called[a] the Son of God. 36 Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be unable to conceive is in her sixth month. 37 For no word from God will ever fail.
38I am the Lords servant, Mary answered. May your word to me be fulfilled. Then the angel left her. This is her consent.
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18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ[a] took place in this way. When his mother Mary had been betrothed[b] to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit. 19 And her husband Joseph, being a just man and unwilling to put her to shame, resolved to divorce her quietly. 20 But as he considered these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. 21 She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins. 22 All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had spoken by the prophet:
23 Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son,
and they shall call his name Immanuel
(which means, God with us). 24 When Joseph woke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him: he took his wife, 25 but knew her not until she had given birth to a son. And he called his name Jesus.
He consented.
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You know this is really a silly statement right? Jesus is God so saying that Jesus ditched himself is just silly.
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So Jesus would have been in constant contact with God. No ditching was done. Consent was given by both parents to adopt. So no problems.
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Why do you think that is? do you think it has anything to do with your creationism? creationism invites ridicule by it's very nature because like voodoo it's a backward step.You know responding to anything does.
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Obviously you are basing that totally on opinion. Creationism has many interpretations as well. You being a believer I find that a little weird, you don't believe that God created the universe?
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