What do you think about Pentecostals?

[sicksince]

What do you think about Pentecostals?

I think that they are mentally insane and need to seek psychiatric aide.

They go around uttering a few "hobidy bobidy boos" and they think that God is talking through them.

 

[The realist]

I think that they are mentally insane and need to seek psychiatric aide.

They go around uttering a few "hobidy bobidy boos" and they think that God is talking through them.

This is why the church is so divided.

 

[sicksince]

This is why the church is so divided.

Yes, because Pentecostals have broken off into a heretical sect.

 

[The realist]

Yes, because Pentecostals have broken off into a heretical sect.

Can I ask what denomination are you from, or was raised in?

 

[sicksince]

Can I ask what denomination are you from, or was raised in?

The one holy catholic and apostolic Church; the same as the Nicene Creed states.

 

[The realist]

The one holy catholic and apostolic Church; the same as the Nicene Creed states.

Don't miss read this the wrong way. BECAUSE I LOVE CATHOLICS. You guys are my brothers and sisters in the faith. I have catholic family members and friends. But answer this for me
Are there any heretic teachings in your denomination?

 

[sicksince]

Don't miss read this the wrong way. BECAUSE I LOVE CATHOLICS. You guys are my brothers and sisters in the faith. I have catholic family members and friends. But answer this for me
Are there any heretic teachings in your denomination?

I am a confirmed Catholic but I actually attend a Lutheran Church now. Lutherans are simply reformed Catholics.

To answer your question no I do not believe there are any heretical teachings in my denomination. That was the purpose of the reformation; to correct those errors.

Pentecostals simply went off the deep end into heretical waters concerning the gifts of the Spirit.

 

[The realist]

I am a confirmed Catholic but I actually attend a Lutheran Church now. Lutherans are simply reformed Catholics.

To answer your question no I do not believe there are any heretical teachings in my denomination. That was the purpose of the reformation; to correct those errors.

Pentecostals simply went off the deep end into heretical waters concerning the gifts of the Spirit.

So everything martin luther talked about was scriptural? Is that what your saying?

 

[Albion]

I am a confirmed Catholic but I actually attend a Lutheran Church now. Lutherans are simply reformed Catholics.

To answer your question no I do not believe there are any heretical teachings in my denomination. That was the purpose of the reformation; to correct those errors.

Pentecostals simply went off the deep end into heretical waters concerning the gifts of the Spirit.

No matter how one cuts it, Luther (and Lutheranism) represents a very conventional, conservative brand of Christianity, while the various Pentecostal churches are much further afield. That doesn't mean that they are wrong, necessarily, but they're far from the middle on the Christian spectrum of churches.

 

[Forever trying]

Sicksince, Vatican II confirmed many things that people, including the Church had known for ages beforehand... And that's we're not the only Christian church anymore. I know that generally that means all of us that sprang from the same tree, Anglican, Lutheranism, Methodist, Orthodox, etc are thankfully more friendly with each other and acknowledge we're brothers and sisters. I'm happy to say in my city the Anglican and Catholic churches hold joint services and help each other on numerous occasions now, knowing we should be united on our 90% similarities and not apart on our 10% (if that) differences.

However, that tolerance should also be extended to Pentecostals as well. I'm not saying they have it 100% right, or that I don't find some things strange. Though that's opinion, not fact (only God knows what's right). But we need to be careful with each other about how we use the word heretical. Just because it's different doesn't mean it's heretical. Having said that, in Pentecostal churches (and seen in the Pentecostal forums) I have heard the most heretical thing imaginable where they talk of other denominations being unsaved and even evil. That is heretical as the bible wants us to love other believers, and I've never heard any other people in churches say that. Even if it's their own opinion, at least they don't say it at church. Only at Pentecostal have I heard that. And even though I was greatly offended by that, most people are lovely and balanced people who don't think on that plane (including the pastor). Yes there's other differences such as adult baptisms (and I heard someone say infant baptism doesn't count which I did find slightly heretical and insulting to say as the bible makes a case for infant as well as adult baptisms), tongues, laying of hands and healings, which I don't understand and find different, however, I would be very careful in calling them heretical.

I don't think denominations should ever go. I think they provide a choice as to how people want to worship and follow God. However, as I said, we should strive to be united on the 90% of similarities and not the 10% differences.

 

[mark kennedy]

I am a confirmed Catholic but I actually attend a Lutheran Church now. Lutherans are simply reformed Catholics.

To answer your question no I do not believe there are any heretical teachings in my denomination. That was the purpose of the reformation; to correct those errors.

Pentecostals simply went off the deep end into heretical waters concerning the gifts of the Spirit.

You do know that there are a fair number of Charismatic Catholics in the world right? I haven't heard of Rome anathematizing ecstatic prayer languages. As a matter of fact I met a Jesuit Priest that taught in the Charismatic Catholic circles for years. You have to be the first I've seen to call them heretics.

Grace and peace,
Mark

 

[WisdomTree]

I am a confirmed Catholic but I actually attend a Lutheran Church now. Lutherans are simply reformed Catholics.

To answer your question no I do not believe there are any heretical teachings in my denomination. That was the purpose of the reformation; to correct those errors.

Pentecostals simply went off the deep end into heretical waters concerning the gifts of the Spirit.

Wow, a confirmed Catholic that goes to a Lutheran Church and says there is nothing heretical in any denominations except Pentecostals...

Does one who neglect the teaching of the Sacred Magisterium and the Holy Councils get to decide who are heretics and who are not?

You do know that there are a fair number of Charismatic Catholics in the world right? I haven't heard of Rome anathematizing ecstatic prayer languages. As a matter of fact I met a Jesuit Priest that taught in the Charismatic Catholic circles for years. You have to be the first I've seen to call them heretics.

Grace and peace,
Mark

You're right, we do have Charismatics in the Catholic Church and the Magisterium has not only not condemned this movement, but rather blessed it though with reservation.

 

[mark kennedy]

Wow, a confirmed Catholic that goes to a Lutheran Church and says there is nothing heretical in any denominations except Pentecostals...

Does one who neglect the teaching of the Sacred Magisterium and the Holy Councils get to decide who are heretics and who are not?



You're right, we do have Charismatics in the Catholic Church and the Magisterium has not only not condemned this movement, but rather blessed it though with reservation.

I have some reservations myself, as does the Lutheran church from what I understand. That doesn't make them heretics. BTW, love the signature, I've known for some time that Rome believed in justification by grace through faith. Just some reservations about the addition by Protestants of a single word, 'alone'.

Grace and peace,
Mark

 

[Albion]

I've known for some time that Rome believed in justification by grace through faith. Just some reservations about the addition by Protestants of a single word, 'alone'.

Or Catholics playing coy about believing that Grace through Faith merely permits them to earn their own way to salvation by Works?

That little correction aside, let's keep to the topic of the thread--What do we think of Pentecostals?

 

[rockytopva]

I was brought up in the military and ended up spending middle-high school in the state of Michigan. My mother made me go to a Baptist church that had to be the deadest place on the planet. I would look out the sunday school window onto the frozen Michigan tundra and wonder what was deader... The Michigan tundra or the building I was in!

I was more that relieved to move here to Virginia to a spiritual warm place. I worked the hay fields with people who would shout of the job, shout out in the hay field, and shout in church! There was community there like Mayberry, love like the Waltons, and Pentecost like the book of acts.

There are times when the people would speak in tongues and it sounded like gibberish. But there were also times that someone would speak in tongues and it wasn't gibberish. When that was a case a hush would fall over the church until someone would interpret. And the interpretation was of same spiritual motive as the tongues, you could feel it.

And then my generation grew up.... With the old folks there was a spiritual agreement on the tongues and interpretations. It was glorious. But with my generation there is the witness that something is wrong here. Which is unfortunate.

 

[sicksince]

You do know that there are a fair number of Charismatic Catholics in the world right? I haven't heard of Rome anathematizing ecstatic prayer languages. As a matter of fact I met a Jesuit Priest that taught in the Charismatic Catholic circles for years. You have to be the first I've seen to call them heretics.

You're right, we do have Charismatics in the Catholic Church and the Magisterium has not only not condemned this movement, but rather blessed it though with reservation.

Well like I said I'm not attending the Catholic Church any longer and as a Lutheran I consider myself a reformed Catholic. And as a Lutheran I think Pentecostals are cuckoo.

 

[Albion]

I was brought up in the military and ended up spending middle-high school in the state of Michigan. My mother made me go to a Baptist church that had to be the deadest place on the planet. I would look out the sunday school window onto the frozen Michigan tundra and wonder what was deader... The Michigan tundra or the building I was in!

I was more that relieved to move here to Virginia to a spiritual warm place. I worked the hay fields with people who would shout of the job, shout out in the hay field, and shout in church! There was community there like Mayberry, love like the Waltons, and Pentecost like the book of acts.

There are times when the people would speak in tongues and it sounded like gibberish.

I'm not getting the part about your move having been an improvement.

 

[WisdomTree]

I have some reservations myself, as does the Lutheran church from what I understand. That doesn't make them heretics. BTW, love the signature, I've known for some time that Rome believed in justification by grace through faith. Just some reservations about the addition by Protestants of a single word, 'alone'.

Grace and peace,
Mark

Thanks, it actually took some edits since I wasn't sure whether it fit with what I exactly believed or not.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Our present Pastor (In the AoG) and his wife were baptised in the Holy Spirit, and spoke in tongues when it was ministered to them in the Catholic Charismatic Prayer gatherings that ran over at Notre Dame University, and led/officiated by Catholic Priests, and Nuns.

I assume you consider them all to be "insane" also?????

 

[sicksince]

I assume you consider them all to be "insane" also?????

Yes. Fruit loops.