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Gxg (G²);64429025 said:
They should have "Avatar: Legend of Zuko"....

I'd go for that. It's a little upsetting that Korra starts off where all the characters I invested in are dead except for an elderly Katara. I imagine we're going to learn what happened to Zoku's mother somewhere in the series? I hope we find out what became of all the others, too.

I haven't really identified with any of the Korra cast yet. I wondered why they didn't have more advanced technology in Airbender, and I'm not sure I like it now that I see it in Korra. Still, I'm continuing to watch and I'm 3 episodes in.
 
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I'd go for that. It's a little upsetting that Korra starts off where all the characters I invested in are dead except for an elderly Katara. I imagine we're going to learn what happened to Zoku's mother somewhere in the series? I hope we find out what became of all the others, too.
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In the event it was missed, I noted in #72 where there was an entire extension of the animated series in comic form discussion more on Zoku in his development and the others after the war....an ongoing series which is pretty intense.
I haven't really identified with any of the Korra cast yet. I wondered why they didn't have more advanced technology in Airbender, and I'm not sure I like it now that I see it in Korra. Still, I'm continuing to watch and I'm 3 episodes in
It's more so a reflection (with the technology) of what occurred with the Industrial Revolution and how much the world changed in a material sense - with it being previewed in the advancement of the Fire Nation. But on the series, it was highly significant seeing the ways that the characters advanced - as you'll see the more things further. In the entire series, it was very complicated...
 
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I haven't really identified with any of the Korra cast yet. I wondered why they didn't have more advanced technology in Airbender, and I'm not sure I like it now that I see it in Korra. Still, I'm continuing to watch and I'm 3 episodes in.

If interested,

Thought you'd appreciated this review - from Anime Newsletter May 2012 - NMSU . ...and I Figured you'd enjoy this review on the matter with Avatar:

Have you gone further into the series yet?

Was noting, by the way, that many appreciated the writers of the show for showing some of the religions aspects of Inuit culture in having Korra being the main star of the new series - even though you have others upset at folks noting Korra is darker complexion....something that shouldn't be an issue when considering Eskimo culture....and how far the writers went to show Inuit/Eskimo cultures in the show - complex as it was (and vastly better than the way that the live-action movie did it - if aware of Visual Inuit culture in The Last Airbender film ).

With the skin tone dynamic, as said best in On the Skin Tones of Water Tribe Members - Beautiful Gorgeous (for brief reference):
Here we have Hahn, who was veritably as light-skinned as Aang or Toph.


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Now I originally theorized that lighter skin was a Northern Water Tribe thing, but here you have Hama, who is also rather light skinned - then again, the Southern Water Tribe has its ancient origin in the Northern Water Tribe, the original singular Tribe, so there’s that too.



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In comparison, we have Pakku, who is darker, yes, but still rather lighter-skinned than say Sokka or Korra.



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Here’s a bonus one! Katara and Yagoda, together, showing you the demarcation in skin tone.Finally I give you, Tahno, who in my mind is no lighter than Hahn:



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I chose this image in particular, again, for the contrast. As with the penultimate image, you can very obviously see here that the Water Tribe encompasses a wide range of skin tones. I believe this is completely accurate in terms of real world cultural reference. The Water Tribe is based off of Northern Native American cultures in general, and I believe Inuit culture has been implicated specifically as a reference as well.



Now, as it is well known, Northern people tend to have rather lighter skin than most, and Inuits and other Northern Native Americans are no exception to this. This said, because of their history and origin they can have appreciably darker skin than, say, European Northerners. Nevertheless, just as is seen here in Avatar, N. Northern Americans can have a range of skin tones. Here are some examples:




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I took these images from Google and selected them because I thought they showed a good range. Obviously you can find some images with even darker or even lighter-skinned people in them, but these seemed to work well as they all show multiple people and you can really see the difference in tone. In any event, I am obviously taking for granted that these images aren’t altered or edited - obviously I do not know whether they are or not....Regardless, I just wanted to point out that light skin isn’t an aberration amongst N. Native people, and can certainly be an explanation for the lighter skin of these characters.




Outside of that, the spiritual aspects of Inuit culture and dress were well done, IMHO.

Legend of Korra - Book Spirits: Inuit Names - YouTube









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Many are glad for the creators representing the spirituality and yet desire for modernization conflict common to so many youths in the Inuit culture when seeing them captivated with technology - as it is with Korra in Republic City (even though there is desire for having First-Nations actors play the voices of those characters). The artwork and animation remain flawless and the contrast between the Inuit inspired water tribes and the almost-steampunk styling of Republic City create culture palates giving the show even more depth.

As another noted, ... If Avatar: The Last Airbender was Asia in 1800s, then Avatar: Legend of Korra and Republic City is similar to Asian in 1920s with new flush of technology.




Gene Yang discussed in an interview (pertaining to the comic series extending The Last Airbender ) the real historical aspects of Avatar: the Last Airbender. ...for of course a lot of it is derived from Asian culture but it’s really interesting to see how Gene Yang broke down each of the four nations characteristics based on the world that Mike and Brian created.
  • Fire Nation- Very specifically drawn from the 1800s of militaristic Japanese culture that began adapting to Western technology.
  • Earth Kingdom and Ba Sing Se- Manchu dynasty of China; huge, sprawling, but weak with a complacent government system.
The historical aspect is especially interesting since the comic series shows the transition from Avatar to Legend of Korra in Republic City, a more “modern city” where all these cultures mesh instead of living separately in Avatar.
 
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Gxg (G²);64437574 said:
Have you gone further into the series yet?

Haflway through season 1. Amon has made his grand entrance at the bending tournament.

I have to say, I haven't developed any kind of attachment to any of the characters yet. Amon reminds me of a less cheesy/more successful Cobra Commander. I think the airbender cast was just more likable. Though Lance Henriksen as Amon's Lieutenant is awesome. He did such a great job as General Tesler on the animated Tron: Uprising series so it's nice to see him doing voice work again.

Airbender seemed to imply that benders were rare, or at least secluded so
the dramatic advance in technology makes a lot of sense...non-benders compensating. And the integration/diversity in the city would also make sense once the nations united.

As a side note to Watership Down again, when the first war ends, integration doesn't work out either. The Cowslip warren rabbits prefer to strike out on their own after they try to merge. The slaves from the Efrafan warren are too traumatized to trust their newly found freedom. Honorable Efrafan soldiers have difficulty adapting to reduction in structure and the corrupt soldiers become outright thugs. It's nice not to see "happily ever after".
 
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Haflway through season 1. Amon has made his grand entrance at the bending tournament.

I have to say, I haven't developed any kind of attachment to any of the characters yet. Amon reminds me of a less cheesy/more successful Cobra Commander..
Would respectfully disagree - as I appreciate what Amon represents when it comes to the reasons why revolutions occur - as well as the ways that others may choose to go about it in the wrong way to achieve noble ends in ending inequality. Amon was very complicated and I appreciated the way they developed him....truly epic, IMHO. As another pointed out wisely, "Amon was the villain to end all Avatar villains. Not only was he a multidimensional character with layers and a thorough backstory, but he also proved to be incredibly dangerous for anyone that stood in his way."


I appreciated what this review had to say on the direction of the show based on where Amon took it:
The struggle between the haves and the have-nots was, at a roughly analogous time in real-world history, a huge geopolitical theme, and tying that so deftly into the bender v. non-bender struggle down to the aesthetic of the propaganda posters, the methods of secret meetings, and the rhetoric used by the non-bender parties was (and again, I say this as a giant history nerd) amazing. And, as a friend pointed out to me while I was complaining to her that I had no idea what to write besides “THIS WAS SO AWESOME” copy-pasted over and over, it’s deliciously morally gray.

Amon’s justification for his vendetta — a firebender destroying his family — is the same backstory that’s shared by both Sokka and Katara in the original series, as well as Bolin and Mako in the current series, with a side-order of Zuko-esque angst because a firebender also destroyed his face. It’s also hard, even going into the series as biased as we are towards benders, to really fault him. The people he targets are people like gang leaders, who objectively have used their powers to oppress non-benders. They’re not sympathetic innocents. The other thing that’s interesting about this presented struggle is how much more faith it displays in the maturity of the Avatar audience. The first series started as a pretty black and white struggle: firebenders are bad, they must be stopped. Any nuance that was added to this struggle was something the audience was methodically lead through. But the bender v. non-bender struggle is, off the bat, a much more mature conflict for the audience to grapple with. In fact, the whole tone of the series is much more mature, which is a pretty smart move. Clearly no one expected that Avatar would be as popular with older audiences as it was, and on top of that, fans of the original who perhaps started in the target demographic have grown up since the show began.









In the show, the secondary villains aren’t allowed to steal the show from Amon (even though I appreciate them as well ) and Amon is both clever and powerful enough to be convincingly threatening. Moreover, he also has a point – is anybody on the city council not a bender? And yes, the degree of worship centered around bending athletes are problematic, especially when you see the attendant bullying tied in there. Additionally, benders are allowed to defend themselves with their powers...but teaching chi-blocking is illegal, flat out? I can see assaulting somebody via chi-blocking being illegal, but the skill set entirely? There were some BIG themes in the show that needed to be tackled and yet were not considered in The Last Airbender

'The Legend of Korra' Takes On Redistribution was truly bold - as it challenges something Aang never seemed to deal with in his time - how to deal with inequality for NON-Benders and how will non-benders respond in the place of lacking powers to make up for the need for power in the Avatar universe? ... The Redistribution dynamic does seem to be very interesting when considering the ways it often seems to follow right alongside the concept of Revolution....specifically in cases where people wishing to have redistribution open the door for others to use the same language and yet do so in the name of a positive while promoting a negative---similar to the Communist Revolution where others were fighting against tyranny in one form of government but opened the door for others to use the movement that was started to address an issue...and in the process, hijack a movement for their own ends in the name of good. Other revolutions have experienced the same realities many times and it's an ever present danger---as redistribution can be either good or bad depending on the people involved.....and it's a never-ending battle that's tricky to navigate - but on the issue, there are thankfully types of media that do help to get the point across.

These are real life issues and I was glad that a cartoon show managed to bring about a good and necessary discussion on issues of disparity and mistreatment..as well as politics and privilege .....and the mature development of the show were necessary to make more realistic in how cultures evolve. So glad the Legend of Korra’ Tackles Class and Urbanization

For good review, one can go here or here:

His rebellion is actually similar to certain points in Asian history when it comes to religions rebellions (even as seen in how He calls his followers ‘brothers and sisters’, not ‘comrades’). As another noted:
Please read this first:
Taiping Rebellion (1850 to 1864, present day Nanjing) was led by Hong Xiuquan, who claimed (through visions) that he was the younger brother of Jesus. He founded the 太平天囯 Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, which led to the (failed) Taiping Rebelling against the Qing government, and cost 20 million civilians their lives.
Now, while I still think that the Equalist movement is paralleling the Communist Revolution, especially with the oppression of the non-benders and their demands of equality, there are points to be made for the Equalists and Amon, to be a mash up of both i.e. the Communist Revolution AND The Taiping Rebellion.





Noteworthy things:
  • There is the character 平 is used by both, by Hong Xiuguan and Amon.

  • Then there is the way the Equalists get addressed at the rally: As ‘Brothers and Sisters’. This is not a Communist greeting, that would be ‘Comrade’. “Brothers and Sisters’ does, on the other hand, do have a religious ring to it. Amon also, so far, has not called for a redistribution of wealth.

  • Amon calls the rally ‘Revelation’. And while that fits the episode i.e. him revealing his (potential) Energybending powers, it also has a very Christian Revivalist ring to it.

  • Amon claims to be in touch with the Spirit World i.e. he claims the spirits taught him energybending. The Avatar is the religious aka spiritual leader of their world, meaning that Amon’s claim does have, once again, a religious ring to it.
Also, as another noted best when seeing the way that the Equalists were responded to:​





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Amon - Equalists vs. the Anti-Equalist Task Force
Real Life parallels: Kuomintang vs. Communists
The Equalists, their rhetoric, outfits and posters are strongly influenced by Communist rethoric and themes. Compare the propaganda posters, that Amon promises ‘Equality for the oppressed non-benders’, their goal of overthrowing the existing power/government structure and last, but not least him claiming to come from humble farmer origins, like Mao Zedong.

Now, let’s talk about this new task force.

Who are they, what do they want?
- Protect the existing order




- Protect the Republic i.e. the existing political system

- Led by the rich and privileged

This parallels pretty much with the Kuomintang, especially once under Chiang Kai-shek’s control.

Historically, in the 1920, two main forces tried to get political control of China: The Communist Party and the Kuomintang (Nationalists) and the show seems to strongly parallel those two groups, their symbolism and ideals, in the two factions that we see: Equalists and Task Force.
I think the airbender cast was just more likable. Though Lance Henriksen as Amon's Lieutenant is awesome. He did such a great job as General Tesler on the animated Tron: Uprising series so it's nice to see him doing voice work again.
The Lieutenant was very amazing - although Amon seemed to be more powerful, IMHO. But again, the Lieutenant was very impressive in the way he pledged his life for a cause to address inequality even though he was harming/demonizing all benders for the acts of others who were oppressive....very amazing insight into human nature.

As it concerns the Airbender Cast, there was more time to develop relationship with them - but I actually found myself liking the Team Avatar from Korra's cast better - at least in realizing they are in vastly different era than Aang's time.

Airbender seemed to imply that benders were rare, or at least secluded so
the dramatic advance in technology makes a lot of sense...non-benders compensating. And the integration/diversity in the city would also make sense once the nations united
Indeed - and the benders being the ones powering much of that technology gives an excellent twist to that dynamic..

As a side note to Watership Down again, when the first war ends, integration doesn't work out either. The Cowslip warren rabbits prefer to strike out on their own after they try to merge. The slaves from the Efrafan warren are too traumatized to trust their newly found freedom. Honorable Efrafan soldiers have difficulty adapting to reduction in structure and the corrupt soldiers become outright thugs. It's nice not to see "happily ever after"
True...

It's more real not having "happily ever after" moments - as it's more accurate to have bittersweet ordeals.
 
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Finished up Episode 10. Dante Basco returning as General Iroh is awesome!

The pursuit of Tenzin's family is also very intense so additional points there.

Incredible heroic sacrifice on Lin's part.

It was nice to see what became of some of the old cast in Korra's visions and the blood bending is squirm-inducing.

The little love triangle between Korra, Mako, and Asami is just distracting.

As for Amon, he's been disfigured and his family killed, so it's fine to give him a personal vendetta. But why are so many other non-benders signing up for his clearly terroristic games?
 
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Finished up Episode 10. Dante Basco returning as General Iroh is awesome!
So true....

Just realized he was the man who played Rufio from one of my favorite movies growing up called Hook....and the man is truly one of the best voice actors of all time.


The pursuit of Tenzin's family is also very intense so additional points there.


Incredible heroic sacrifice on Lin's part.
It gets better once getting through the entire series and witnessing what unfolds. The revelation of Asami's dad and how he literally went over the deep end due to his wife killed by a bender and being willing to lie/cheat and demonize all benders....that was heavy.

It was nice to see what became of some of the old cast in Korra's visions and the blood bending is squirm-inducing.
Blood bending is truly the most powerful/feared form of bending ever....and seeing it in action, part of me thought "The Fire Lord would have been taken out QUICKLY if someone dared to blood bend"...

The little love triangle between Korra, Mako, and Asami is just distracting.
It is pretty intense, however.....and I don't like the way Mako treats either of them.

As for Amon, he's been disfigured and his family killed, so it's fine to give him a personal vendetta. But why are so many other non-benders signing up for his clearly terroristic games?
As said before, when paying attention to the series in full and realizing how much inequality/mistreatment has occurred to NON-benders in Republic City ...with all the major industries represented and powered by benders and having NO non-benders on the council itself for the entire city, it's more than understandable as to why others are ready for revolution in the Avatar world. There are a lot of fed up people - especially seeing how bending is very frequent (as it has always been in the Avatar universe) and in the city gangs who are benders oppress others ruthlessly.

Amon simply fuels it - and one cannot fully understand him until getting through the entire series. He is really in contrast to Counselor Tarlok - both of them extreme in getting what it is that they respectively want and feel is necessary to have real change (even though both are off in many ways). But with Amon, the show establishes him as a catalyst - seeing that the Equalists had become a cult of personality around Amon..​

And the way they showed his ability for making his points/capturing the attention of others was truly brilliant...
Republic City Belongs to the Equalists (Legend of Korra AMV) - YouTube




 
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Gxg (G²);64448786 said:
Blood bending is truly the most powerful/feared form of bending ever....and seeing it in action, part of me thought "The Fire Lord would have been taken out QUICKLY if someone dared to blood bend"...

I would think any of the water benders would be able to do it since blood (and the body) is largely composed of water. Still, seeing it used on adult Aang definitely made me cringe.
 
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I would think any of the water benders would be able to do it since blood (and the body) is largely composed of water. Still, seeing it used on adult Aang definitely made me cringe.
In the series, as Katara from The Last Airbender was trained how to do it by another Water bender in the episode called The Puppetmaster , it seems apparent that all Water Benders can learn bloodbenders since it is a sub-skill of Water Bending.....but the potential to excel in it/develop it to the max is something you have to be born with.

Yakone and his sons, Tarrlok and Amon, have demonstrated the ability to bloodbend without a full moon, showing that this advanced bloodbending technique may be inherited - and Bloodbending is considered to be quite a sinister art since it forces the bender's will over the victim's will and those who practice the technique open themselves up to homicidal madness

When it happened to Aang, I cringed as well - the cracking of bones and other things, I thought Aang was about to be killed for certain.
Of course, the reality of the matter is that bloodbending isn't something that's necessarily meant to be a negative . Granted, the control and manipulation of fluids within a person's body can have many different effects....such as being used potentially to crush or disrupt the activity of a victim's internal organs or in a similar manner, used to pressurize, boil, or cool the water inside the body of an opponent, killing them in the process.....or having the technique used to completely extract water from one's body, imitating the technique used with plants. Nonetheless, despite its dark capabilities, bloodbending could also be beneficial in healing, as it could be utilized to maintain gashes and wounds, as well as prevent loss of blood.....and bloodbending could be used to alleviate blood clots and internal wounds, which can prove to be beneficial in life-or-death situations - in addition to the dynamic of helping in cardiac arrest, as it can be utilized in helping the heart beat if it were to stop by bending blood into and out of the heart.

As another noted insightfully:

Suppose Katara hadn't gotten bloodbending banned. Could a fairly skilled bloodbender who isn't malicously inclined have found a way to use it to benifit mankind? I can think of two possible ways that bloodbending can be used for good instead of evil.

Example 1: Suppose an unconcious victim some natural disaster is out of physical reach of possible rescuers. Say the victim is laying at the far end of a large gap, the gap caused by a structure collapsing during the natural disaster, (a bridge has collapsed and the victim is on a piece of the bridge's remains which is too far away to reach via normal methods). A skilled bloodbender can theorectically lift the victim via bloodbending and move the individual to where rescuers can reach.

Example 2: Enhancing healing with bloodbending. We all know that extra blood flowing to injured areas of the body provides extra oxygen to help with healing. A skilled bloodbender who also has healing skills can combine the two. Use water to heal the injury and use bloodbending to stimulate additional blood flow to the injury site....I think bloodbending could have major advantages for healers, like all the elements and their sub bending, there's a light and dark side.
 
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Does anyone here think Unalaq and Vaatu will fuse, creating a dark avatar?


Because that would make my fanfics canon :3
I have pondered on that theory as well - and it'd not surprise me. However, others have said that it may end up being a sharp twist - with Jinora becoming the one Vaatu will join with somehow....perhaps inadvertently (As that'd be the main person Korra would be unwilling to vanquish due to the family connection - a big theme thus far)


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Some say that Jinnora being Korra's guide into the Spirit realm is intimately connected with her experience with the statue of Wan - that perhaps it was Vaatu glowing the statue up to get Jinora's attention....with the goal of luring her to himself and having Korra connected with Jinora on their journey to him.

Or perhaps having Vaatu and Raava joining together within the Avatar since the two are intimately connected (as if one wins...the other will gradually develop in the other over time until the next confrontation) - and in that case, the Avatar now has the potential to become dark/corrupted and cause havoc.

Then again, it's possible that Unalaq cannot be the avatar even though Vaatu COULD go into his body to become to Dark Avatar because Unalaq did not master the elements. Raava helped to carry the powers for Avatar Wan, but Vaatu was not offered the power of the elements ...and as a result if Vaatu goes in to Unalaq he can't become the Avatar because the lion turtle did not give the power of elements to Vaatu. Of course, with Vaatu's knowledge of the Spirit Realm (as well as Unalaq being a Water-Bender - which seems to be where Spirit-Bending is derived from), I don't think it'd be a loss for a Dark Avatar since there are so many ways to make up...


But I'd would definitely love to see a Dark Avatar contrast come up - changing the show dynamic entirely. With everything developed in the show from the Civil War to the rise of the Dark Spirits and the ways that Unalaq seems to be amongst the few knowing how to control/alter them (as Korra has now learned), I do wonder how intense it's going to be...and if the final battle is between them, amazing

















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Gxg as always, you have an incredible assessment over Avatar and Korra. I've learned a ton just reading the thread.
Thanks for the sentiments shared, Bruh - and glad to know there's learning going on since that was the goal of the thread when it comes to cartoons with Eastern leanings/concepts being studied and showing how it's really more than just a cartoon.

Of course, when you're a Geek who loves animation history and learning, you always tend to have fun with it:D^_^:)
 
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Does anyone here think Unalaq and Vaatu will fuse, creating a dark avatar?

Because that would make my fanfics canon :3
However they do that, if they do it, it's gonna have to be amazing and truly epic - they already have a lot to catch up in stepping up the fights in light of the beautiful fights between the Spirit of the Avatar (Raava) and Vaatu - one aspect of the AMAZING episode that was "Beginnings"



And utilizing Unalaq in the process of having Vaatu have a human element would be brilliant (even though I do think perhaps Unalaq is more tormented than he even realizes).

I would love it if they brought Amon back somehow - in the spirit world perhaps - and found a way to connect Book 2 with Book 1 in showing how his revolution was intimately connected to what Vaatu (the Spirit of Chaos) may've been trying to accomplish by destabilizing events long enough ...or perhaps being encountered by Amon when he first ran away from his father Yakon after seeing his brother abused - during the nearby Everstorm in the South Pole - with Amon perhaps having brushed up with Vaatu - seeing how often he spoke of the "Spirits" taught him the ability to take away bending...yes, it was bloodbending that he used to take away bending - but NO ONE else has discovered a way to do it as he did...and thus, perhaps it wasn't a "lie" that the spirits taught him how to do so - he was already a blood bender but maybe he learned how to take away bending via blood bending from spirits sent by Vaatu.....you never know.

Even before we found out about Vaatu, I couldn't help but wonder where he learned to do what he did - for even if it wasn't a spirit granted power, his combination of bloodbending, chi blocking to "sever" a bender's connection to the elements permanently is an unusual thing to have just thought up. And if Amon was utilized by Vaatu initially, I think he would have been a great weapon to aim at the Avatar - without her bending, she would have no chance to oppose Vaatu.

But that's just one theory..

More at the following:


 
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Gxg as always, you have an incredible assessment over Avatar and Korra. I've learned a ton just reading the thread.
Have you caught up on Book 2 of Legend of Korra yet?
 
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Finished up Episode 10. Dante Basco returning as General Iroh is awesome!
Assuming you're done with the entire series currently, correct?:)
 
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Gxg (G²);64453471 said:
Assuming you're done with the entire series currently, correct?:)

Still 4 episodes left in the first season; General Iroh had just set course for Republic City. I suspect, things are about to get real.
 
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So, I found out something, but it's a spoiler, so...but it's really cool...maybe! Like, you will flip when you see it! ^_^
Not really certain as to what you mean it is a spoiler on - and thus, you can either share it here openly or just PM me. Researching the show and keeping up with events/leaks, it is probably not really a surprise:)
 
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Gxg (G²);64453577 said:
Not really certain as to what you mean it is a spoiler on - and thus, you can either share it here openly or just PM me. Researching the show and keeping up with events/leaks, it is probably not really a surprise:)

Well technically it's not because it was in the season trailer.

Buuuuuttttttt I thought it was kind of cool. Doesn't really spoil anything, it's just cool to see this...again.
 
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