NM Supreme Court: Christian Photographers Can't Refuse Gay Weddings

[FreeSpirit74]

If you're a wedding photographer, it's not that hard to figure out if it's a homosexual wedding.

There's an easy way. All you have to do is require a face to face meeting to discuss rates. If it's homosexual, the quoted price goes up. You don't have to be unprofessional when quoting a price.

Why should the price be higher if it is a homosexual wedding? You aren't using different equipment, more equipment, or more specialized photo-shooting techniques than you would use for a heterosexual wedding, so giving a higher price for no legitimate reason when you would be performing the EXACT SAME SERVICE as for a heterosexual wedding IS unprofessional in and of itself.

Or, when there's a homosexual couple, she's already booked for that day.

There's always an excuse.

Hate to break it to you, but there's a way around that too. After the homosexual couple gets turned down, have a heterosexual couple call for a wedding shoot on the same exact date, time and general geographic location. If they get accepted, then you know the first couple has been discriminated against due to orientation.

That was how an apartment complex in my area was caught last year for refusing to rent to prospective tenants who were black. White applicants were told that there were apartments available, and alowed to apply for them; black applicants were told that those same apartments were already rented. And this was a place that was charging upwards of $1,000/month and more for rent, so it's not like they would have been stuck renting to lowlife ghetto types if they did approve the rental applications of the black applicants.

And you do understand the difference between an "excuse" and a "reason" do you not? A reason is legit, and an excuse is not.

 

[keith99]

Religious beliefs do not allow you to flout laws that have absolutely nothing to do with religion. Hence why Rastafarians still get arrested for marijuana usage.

Uh, no. The usage does have something to do with their religion. Just as animal sacrifice is part of some Caribbean religions. Generally speaking Religion does not get a free pass for things illegal for others. The one exception that comes to mind is some Native American rituals involving drugs, but even there anyone not a member of the appropriate tribal group will have serious problems.

 

[keith99]

Why should the price be higher if it is a homosexual wedding? You aren't using different equipment, more equipment, or more specialized photo-shooting techniques than you would use for a heterosexual wedding, so giving a higher price for no legitimate reason when you would be performing the EXACT SAME SERVICE as for a heterosexual wedding IS unprofessional in and of itself.



Hate to break it to you, but there's a way around that too. After the homosexual couple gets turned down, have a heterosexual couple call for a wedding shoot on the same exact date, time and general geographic location. If they get accepted, then you know the first couple has been discriminated against due to orientation.

That was how an apartment complex in my area was caught last year for refusing to rent to prospective tenants who were black. White applicants were told that there were apartments available, and alowed to apply for them; black applicants were told that those same apartment were already rented. And this was a place that was charging upwards of $1,000/month and more for rent, so it's not like they would have been stuck renting to lowlife ghetto types if they did approve the rental applications of the black applicants.

And you do understand the difference between an "excuse" and a "reason" do you not? A reason is legit, and an excuse is not.

A wedding photographer is going to get caught all the time if they try something like this. Very often just one member of the couple calls to check price and availability. If things suddenly change when both show up is a red flag.

 

[MachZer0]

Why? The state has a law forbidding discrimination on the base of sexual orientation.

The law also guarantees the free exercise of religion

 

[MachZer0]

When the battery in your car is dead, I bet you buy a new car! LOL

When I go to the store to buy a new battery, if they don't offer the kind I need, I don't sue them, I go to a different store

 

[MachZer0]

Ipsie dixit. I'll take the interpretation of experts over yours.

Interpret the 1st Amendment. Let me know what you come up with

 

[MachZer0]

As I said before, no one reconsiders their relationship just because they happen to encounter a bigot or two.

No one reconsiders their religious beliefs because they happen to encounter militant liberals

 

[MachZer0]

I would rename the title of this thread

NM Supreme Court: Wedding Photographers Can't Refuse Gay Weddings

There was no wedding involved

 

[Bedford]

When I go to the store to buy a new battery, if they don't offer the kind I need, I don't sue them, I go to a different store

The point as it applies to the discussion here is if you went to the store and they DID have the battery you needed, but refused to sell it to you because you are a heterosexual

 

[MachZer0]

Really? I think he and HUAC treated a lot of people in this country unfairly, to the point where they were deprived of the right to make a living in their chosen professions.

McCarthy was not a member of the HUAC

 

[MachZer0]

Just a side not on this.

When I was in College I learned that 2 professors at my college had suffered because of McCarthy. Men of character who were in no way communist sympathizers but who refused loyalty oaths on principle.

I do NOT think it is coincidence that about the time these men retired PC started to take off.

What did McCarthy have to do with loyalty oaths, recalling that loyalty oaths were established for government employees by a Democrat, Harry Truman

 

[Bedford]

McCarthy was not a member of the HUAC

That post did not say McCarthy was a member of HUAC.

 

[MachZer0]

Uh, no. The usage does have something to do with their religion. Just as animal sacrifice is part of some Caribbean religions. Generally speaking Religion does not get a free pass for things illegal for others. The one exception that comes to mind is some Native American rituals involving drugs, but even there anyone not a member of the appropriate tribal group will have serious problems.

This is not a case of a person attempting to do something, such as sacrifice animals. This is a case of a person being forced to something she chooses not to do based on her religious beliefs

 

[MachZer0]

That post did not say McCarthy was a member of HUAC.

And he had nothing to do with the HUAC which did defame people and which McCarthy did not. It was an attempt at proclaiming guilt by association where no association existed

 

[MachZer0]

That post did not say McCarthy was a member of HUAC.

Also worth noting is that "McCarthyism" has a negative connotation yet the case in question here involves the liberal version of "McCarthyism"

 

[MachZer0]

The point as it applies to the discussion here is if you went to the store and they DID have the battery you needed, but refused to sell it to you because you are a heterosexual

In this case, the photographer did not have the product desired

 

[Bedford]

In this case, the photographer did not have the product desired

You don't have the first clue what is being talked about in this thread, do you?

 

[Bedford]

And he had nothing to do with the HUAC which did defame people and which McCarthy did not. It was an attempt at proclaiming guilt by association where no association existed

An association created only within your mind. You are seeing stuff that is simply not there.

 

[MachZer0]

An association created only within your mind. You are seeing stuff that is simply not there.

The association was in the post

 

[MachZer0]

You don't have the first clue what is being talked about in this thread, do you?

Yes, noting that I'm not the one who brought up batteries