The books of Hebrews and Revelation prove the unchangeableness of God's Holy Law. (2)

[Stryder06]

If you want to, but you really werent of much use there either. You just said I was wrong and pretty much left it at that.

I told you why you were wrong. I just didn't waste my time trying to give you an exhaustive explanation when you clearly weren't interested in that. LP has given you very in depth explanation right here, and you've shunned every one of them. That lets me know you're not actually looking to understand this teaching. You just want to argue how wrong it is because that's the popular thing to do.

Well a 19thC prophet at least, she is the standard and you conform your beliefs to hers.

She never called herself a prophet, and I don't mind that are beliefs are the same. We are a part of the same denomination. That's kind of what happens.

Yes, Acts 2, seriously is there no end of you trying to push things out of where the Apostles saw their fulfillment? Of course everything has it's exception, especially when it comes to EGW for you

Please tell me where in Acts 2 men dreamed dreams and had visions? This wasn't a "it'll happen once and that's it" type of proclimation. This was something that will continue to occur until the second coming. You do recall that John had his visions way after the events in Acts 2 right? Like I said before, you don't want to know, you just want to continue on about what's wrong with the IJ while knowing nothing about it other than what every anti-adventist website has proclaimed. It's plain ignorance.

 

[Stryder06]

I can say the same of you.

Actually you can't.

Yes the Daniel and Revelation passages are weaker in terms of study, however I make up for it by ruling out the IJ from being in either because of my in depth knowledge of Hebrews.

You can't "make up for it". You can't begin to have a proper understanding of what Hebrews is talking about if you don't have a proper understanding of the sanctuary or the prophecies given to Daniel by God. This is why I said you haven't studied the way you ought to, and as such, can't proclaim the IJ to be false.

That still doesn't rule out that the IJ needs to have the judgment of the professed believer (something never talked about as happening in Scripture except that they leave us to prove that they were never of us) it is not done in lieu of the accused either and the only link to 1844 is a tenuous one which from my perspective if your prophet clinging to her favourite date for the 2nd coming.

The scripture never speaks about the righteous being judged? Are you certain about that?

 

[Stryder06]

Tall73 and I have participated on various topics on two different forums, and while we don't match opinions on various nonessential fine points, we do come to similar conclusions regarding the Sanctuary Doctrine that remains exclusive to the SDA church. The same is true with my experience with his wife, Sophia7. Their approach is reliance on what Scripture actually says, and Tall73 spent time wading through 1100 pages of dissertations on the Sanctuary Doctrine. He then asked the right questions, and got the wrong answers continuously from those hoping to retain his tenure as a SDA pastor. The result is that he left Adventism.

I miss his (and Sophia7) participation on the forum. Alas, a discussion forum is a good place to turn to for answers, but after addressing them a forum loses its value - so I can't blame him or his wife for leaving CF. Forums can be as addictive as gambling, and are not a replacement for real life.

Characterizing others the way you do is a form of argumentum ad hominem, a logical fallacy. It dismisses the content of his contributions for no valid reason. Tall73 brought valuable insight into Adventism that only a SDA pastor can do.

*EDIT* I just saw that Tall73 wrote a post yesterday, so I guess he's still lurking around these parts. Maybe he will offer something on this thread.

Wrong is wrong no matter what the popular opinion says. That's why I dismiss Tall's comments. I've talked with him at length and he is flat out wrong. He agrees with that which he once stood against. It's very sad honestly.

 

[Criada]

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A few off topic posts have been removed from this thread, before I gave up due to the sheer numbers. As a reminder, the OP states:

The books of Hebrews and Revelation prove the unchangeableness of God's Holy Law. The key texts listed below, from the NT, prove beyond a shadow of doubt that God's Holy Law, the 10 Commandments, are still binding on all human beings, for all time. Note, the highlighted texts...

Please stay on topic and avoid personal insults.
Thank you
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[Keachian]

Wrong is wrong no matter what the popular opinion says. That's why I dismiss Tall's comments. I've talked with him at length and he is flat out wrong. He agrees with that which he once stood against. It's very sad honestly.

So Christendom has been wrong about sanctuary since Christ until EGW got bumped on the head and saw the truth. Give me a break.

 

[Keachian]

I told you why you were wrong. I just didn't waste my time trying to give you an exhaustive explanation when you clearly weren't interested in that. LP has given you very in depth explanation right here, and you've shunned every one of them. That lets me know you're not actually looking to understand this teaching. You just want to argue how wrong it is because that's the popular thing to do.

I asked for clarification you just said study more, I wasn't as argumentative as I'm being here.

She never called herself a prophet, and I don't mind that are beliefs are the same. We are a part of the same denomination. That's kind of what happens.

You sharing the same beliefs is different to her being the standard and you being a carbon copy because that's what you need to be to adequately claim to be an SDA

Please tell me where in Acts 2 men dreamed dreams and had visions? This wasn't a "it'll happen once and that's it" type of proclimation. This was something that will continue to occur until the second coming. You do recall that John had his visions way after the events in Acts 2 right?

Talk to Peter about his use of Joel in his speech then.

Like I said before, you don't want to know, you just want to continue on about what's wrong with the IJ while knowing nothing about it other than what every anti-adventist website has proclaimed. It's plain ignorance.

Sorry, but no, I have read through GC, found it rambling backpedalling and at times incoherent. My comparison between IJ and Hebrews largely comes from my own study of Hebrews which included this Sermon series this commentary and just reading through the text about 500 times over the past 8 months, and an extensive word study on the word ephapax. You want to say that I don't understand Hebrews because I don't understand the Sanctuary doctrine. You dismiss the drumbeat of ephapax in order to set up the doctrine that Christ had to enter further in 1844 and thus you must discard the central message of the Book, if Christ did not enter in once-for-all then there is no reason not to go back to the Old Covenant sacrifices. If Christ did not enter into the Most Holy Place, into the very Presence of the Father then his Sacrifice, his blood cannot be claimed to be more superior than that of domesticated animals, for the Judaizers would argue that well his sacrifice only got him as far as the Holy place, our High Priest goes into the Most Holy Place.

 

[Keachian]

The scripture never speaks about the righteous being judged? Are you certain about that?

There are a few problems I have with this question. First those who are declared righteous can only be declared so because they have been judged in Christ. Second I said professed believers, you need to recognise that you are not the only group that sees a "remnant" within the professed believers, I also gave you a Scripture reference for how I believe the judgment of the non-elect professed believer will be seen to be just this side of heaven. (1 John 2:19)

 

[Keachian]

I'd still be quite interested in seeing one passage of Scripture where the topic of Judgment is discussed where there is all the following distinctives of the IJ

• Convened only after 1844, 'it is...in 1844...to perform the work of investigative judgment'
• Addresses only the 'professed people of God', and is not a general judgment
• Convened in absentia of the accused, 'they will not be present in person'
• The accused are judged according to the old covenant, 'The law of God is the standard'
• Adventist soteriology is dependent on this alleged judgment, 'their names will be blotted out of the book of life'

 

[Sophrosyne]

I believe in Romans it talks about only those who choose to stay under the Law will be judged by the Law all others in Christ will be judged by what Jesus did himself (His Righteousness)

 

[Sophrosyne]

Romans 3:19-25

New American Standard Bible (NASB)

19 Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are [a]under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God; 20 because by the works [b]of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for [c]through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.
Justification by Faith

21 But now apart [d]from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those [e]who believe; for there is no distinction; 23 for all [f]have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus; 25 whom God displayed publicly as a [g]propitiation [h]in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, [i]because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;

 

[from scratch]

I told you why you were wrong. I just didn't waste my time trying to give you an exhaustive explanation when you clearly weren't interested in that. LP has given you very in depth explanation right here, and you've shunned every one of them. That lets me know you're not actually looking to understand this teaching. You just want to argue how wrong it is because that's the popular thing to do.

She never called herself a prophet, and I don't mind that are beliefs are the same. We are a part of the same denomination. That's kind of what happens.

Please tell me where in Acts 2 men dreamed dreams and had visions? This wasn't a "it'll happen once and that's it" type of proclimation. This was something that will continue to occur until the second coming. You do recall that John had his visions way after the events in Acts 2 right? Like I said before, you don't want to know, you just want to continue on about what's wrong with the IJ while knowing nothing about it other than what every anti-adventist website has proclaimed. It's plain ignorance.

Would you kindly explain the IJ in the light of John 5:24. The verse says I've already passed the judgment and have life. Therefore I see no purpose of the IJ.

 

[Leuko Petra]

...That would be the Cross by which all of God's people are judged as righteous because they are in Christ, judgment has been passed for the people of God and they have been vindicated, not because of their works but because God has cleansed them and clothed them....

While God provides His righteousness, His clothing White and Spotless, He forces none to wear it. We must make that decision to "Put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ" [Romans 13:14] as Paul says. It is also our decision to continue or not continue to wear it, abiding in Him, for we may continue in it, or remove it when we will [John 6:66, etc]. God forces none to be cleansed, they must submit, surrender self to Him and obey Him [1 Thessalonians 4:3-7]

The Cross [thus the sacrifice] is only part of the whole needed, otherwise God would never have revealed the plan of salvation in the Sanctuary, or have said:

Thy way, O God, [is] in the sanctuary: who [is so] great a God as [our] God? Psalms 77:13

This is why Paul in Hebrews, and in His epistles speaks of the Sanctuary patterns, which pointed to the true events that Christ would and must yet fulfill. John in the Book of Revelation is given a picture of this very work, as the Book of Revelation [revealing all of the Feasts, from Passover to Booths] goes through the Day of Atonement from Beginning to End...

 

[from scratch]

Actually you can't.

You can't "make up for it". You can't begin to have a proper understanding of what Hebrews is talking about if you don't have a proper understanding of the sanctuary or the prophecies given to Daniel by God. This is why I said you haven't studied the way you ought to, and as such, can't proclaim the IJ to be false.

The scripture never speaks about the righteous being judged? Are you certain about that?

Tall73 is a trained SDA minister who no longer agrees with you. You can't say he doesn't understand your view of the IJ, Daniel or Revelation. I'd like to know if you think with his knowledge he doesn't understand. Or are you just going to take the easy way out and say he has been simply deceived?

 

[from scratch]

Wrong is wrong no matter what the popular opinion says. That's why I dismiss Tall's comments. I've talked with him at length and he is flat out wrong. He agrees with that which he once stood against. It's very sad honestly.

I thought so. The message I get is anyone who doesn't conform to your view doesn't and can't understand/know.

 

[from scratch]

Tall73 and I have participated on various topics on two different forums, and while we don't match opinions on various nonessential fine points, we do come to similar conclusions regarding the Sanctuary Doctrine that remains exclusive to the SDA church. The same is true with my experience with his wife, Sophia7. Their approach is reliance on what Scripture actually says, and Tall73 spent time wading through 1100 pages of dissertations on the Sanctuary Doctrine. He then asked the right questions, and got the wrong answers continuously from those hoping to retain his tenure as a SDA pastor. The result is that he left Adventism.

I miss his (and Sophia7) participation on the forum. Alas, a discussion forum is a good place to turn to for answers, but after addressing them a forum loses its value - so I can't blame him or his wife for leaving CF. Forums can be as addictive as gambling, and are not a replacement for real life.

Characterizing others the way you do is a form of argumentum ad hominem, a logical fallacy. It dismisses the content of his contributions for no valid reason. Tall73 brought valuable insight into Adventism that only a SDA pastor can do.

*EDIT* I just saw that Tall73 wrote a post yesterday, so I guess he's still lurking around these parts. Maybe he will offer something on this thread.

I miss him too. It is down right shameful the way the SDA folks have treated him and his wife here. I sure got to admit one has to be extremely tough to sand up to the brutality that is administered. It has almost gotten me on several occasions. That is a chief reason I disappear for awhile.

 

[Leuko Petra]

Would you kindly explain the IJ in the light of John 5:24. The verse says I've already passed the judgment and have life. Therefore I see no purpose of the IJ.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. John 5:24

It must be understood along with this text:

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. Colossians 3:3

It is Christ Jesus that lives eternally, and those which are dead, are asleep "in the grave" [Ecclesiastes 9:10], all their "thoughts perish[ed]" [Psalms 146:4], and so the "...dead in Christ shall rise first." [1 Thessalonians 4:16] which is at "...his appearing..." [2 Timothy 4:8], which is the moment then that they shall "Awake and sing", them that had previously "...dwel[t] in dust..." [Isaiah 26:19], not dwelling in Heaven.

Therefore, it is eternal life, since Christ Jesus [who is the Head] can no longer die ["...dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him." Romans 6:9], for eternal life is "through" [Romans 6:23] Him.

Those which died "in him" even "...all live unto him." [Luke 20:38]. When shall they be resurrected? At the last day, when the heavens are no more [parted as a scroll], those* which have died in Him, shall be raised from their sleep [Job 14:12; Luke 20:35], "...the dead shall be raised incorruptible..." [1 Corinthians 15:52].

The death Jesus speaks of in John 5:24, is the 2nd Death, and the related "judgment" is the executive Judgment, after the 1,000 years, known as the Great White Throne Judgment, which is for the wicked, and the promise to not enter into it, is conditional based upon what one continually and stedfastly "believeth" [true Biblical Faith, not merely mental ascent, but the Faith which produces, that faith which is demonstrable...]. John 5:25,28-29, is clear that Jesus refering to the same things as found in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, etc.

It is not a once only belief, but to be a continually burning and vibrant faith, even unto the first death if necessary:

Joh 11:25 ειπενG3004 V-2AAI-3S αυτηG846 P-DSF οG3588 T-NSM ιησουςG2424 N-NSM εγωG1473 P-1NS ειμιG1510 V-PAI-1S ηG3588 T-NSF αναστασιςG386 N-NSF καιG2532 CONJ ηG3588 T-NSF ζωηG2222 N-NSF οG3588 T-NSM πιστευωνG4100 V-PAP-NSM ειςG1519 PREP εμεG1473 P-1AS κανG2579 COND-K αποθανηG599 V-2AAS-3S ζησεταιG2198 V-FDI-3S

Joh 11:26 καιG2532 CONJ παςG3956 A-NSM οG3588 T-NSM ζωνG2198 V-PAP-NSM καιG2532 CONJ πιστευωνG4100 V-PAP-NSM ειςG1519 PREP εμεG1473 P-1AS ουG3756 PRT-N μηG3361 PRT-N αποθανηG599 V-2AAS-3S ειςG1519 PREP τονG3588 T-ASM αιωναG165 N-ASM πιστευειςG4100 V-PAI-2S τουτοG3778 D-ASN

V-PAP-NSM - Robinson's Morphological Analysis Codes
Tense: Present
Voice: Active
Mood: Participle
Case: Nominative
Number: Singular
Gender: Masculine

and this "presnt tense" being "continuous action; habitual action; often refelcts a lifestyle" - Greek Quick Reference Guide

...and so, yes I wholly and continually believe with all my heart, soul, strength, that even this very moment, that even if I die in it, as it is written, "even if he dies" [first death, sleep in the dust], that I "will live" [future tense, that is will come to live] again at the resurrection, but I am even moreso looking to be one of those that are translated without seeing death, being faithful in life by Him, being a chosen vessel of the mercy and grace of God, a brand plucked from the burning, believing He will be save to the uttermost, and not to the almost... and so therefore, in either case, seeing the first death or remaining with those on the earth at His coming, being then he calls those who have died in Him, yet live unto Him, unto life once more, I shall not taste of the 2nd death, to which Jesus refers when he says, "...who lives and believes in Me will never die"...

"...He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death." [Revelation 2:11]

...therefore the investigative judgment determines whether or not I have this continually demonstrated and Biblical faith, burning with Holy fire and living by the power and life of God...

...many claiming to be Christians, claiming to be wearing Christ's character, claiming to be His followers but there is not fruit, there is only the "Lord, lord" hypocrisy of the pharisee, the mere outward adorning of the sheep, but inside are ravening wolves. There are tares among the wheat, and the harvest at the end will make sure that there is no tares gathered unto Jesus with the Wheat... this investigative judgment is necessary in the time of the Anti-typical Day of atonement, even as it was in type then:

And [this] shall be a statute for ever unto you: [that] in the seventh month, on the tenth [day] of the month, ye shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, [whether it be] one of your own country, or a stranger that sojourneth among you: Leviticus 16:29

...it is a very serious matter, for it deals with the commandments of God. We claim to take upon ourselves the name of God... yet if we do not lives lives in harmony with such a perfect character as His, then we are but mere hypocrites...

Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 2 Corinthians 10:5

 

[from scratch]

I gave the answer sought after to this tread. Did anyone hear? Maybe people here have a desire to debate and wrangle over words. Read the last chapters of First Timothy in the New Testament.

God will allow you to go your own direction, even if it is to your destruction. The big question is why? If He responds in the way of Love, since he is life itself, then to let you be free, though a slave to sin, is to love you. He sends prophets and all out to you, but you enjoy your darkness too much. Why all this doubting and hurt? Why all this anger towards God?

Fear of God is to love him and know him. Sure he is powerful and almighty, but he acts out of compassion and love for us. If we truly seek him, we seek to understand him. Since Christ had his Father always with him, then if we seek God, we seek Christ. Understanding the love of Christ for us to please his Father, we need to find God through Jesus and not back through the salvation through the Law. It is love that fulfills the Law through Jesus' love of his Dad and thus to us through his sacrifice. We are to come into this love and faith in Jesus. We are to have compassion and willingness to take the steps of Christ in our lives.

Love has no obligation.

 

[from scratch]

While God provides His righteousness, His clothing White and Spotless, He forces none to wear it. We must make that decision to "Put ye on the Loed Jesus Christ" [Romans 13:14] as Paul says. It is also our decision to continue or not continue to wear it, abiding in Him, for we may continue in it, or remove it when we will [John 6:66, etc]. God forces none to be cleansed, they must submit, surrender self to Him and obey Him [1 Thessalonians 4:3-7]

The Cross [thus the sacrifice] is only part of the whole needed, otherwise God would never have revealed the plan of salvation in the Sanctuary, or have said:

Thy way, O God, [is] in the sanctuary: who [is so] great a God as [our] God? Psalms 77:13

This is why Paul in Hebrews, and in His epistles speaks of the Sanctuary patterns, which pointed to the true events that Christ would and must yet fulfill. John in the Book of Revelation is given a picture of this very work, as the Book of Revelation [revealing all of the Feasts, from Passover to Booths] goes through the Day of Atonement from Beginning to End...

Your references to the law are simply amazing. First it is the Lord Jesus which changes to an it.

 

[from scratch]

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. John 5:24

It must be understood along with this text:

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. Colossians 3:3

It is Christ Jesus that lives eternally, and those which are dead, are asleep "in the grave" [Ecclesiastes 9:10], all their "thoughts perish[ed]" [Psalms 146:4], and so the "...dead in Christ shall rise first." [1 Thessalonians 4:16] which is at "...his appearing..." [2 Timothy 4:8], which is the moment then that they shall "Awake and sing", them that had previously "...dwel[t] in dust..." [Isaiah 26:19], not dwelling in Heaven.

Therefore, it is eternal life, since Christ Jesus [who is the Head] can no longer die ["...dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him." Romans 6:9], for eternal life is "through" [Romans 6:23] Him.

Those which died "in him" even "...all live unto him." [Luke 20:38]. When shall they be resurrected? At the last day, when the heavens are no more [parted as a scroll], those* which have died in Him, shall be raised from their sleep [Job 14:12; Luke 20:35], "...the dead shall be raised incorruptible..." [1 Corinthians 15:52].

The death Jesus speaks of in John 5:24, is the 2nd Death, and the related "judgment" is the executive Judgment, after the 1,000 years, known as the Great White Throne Judgment, which is for the wicked, and the promise to not enter into it, is conditional based upon what one continually and stedfastly "believeth" [true Biblical Faith, not merely mental ascent, but the Faith which produces, that faith which is demonstrable...]. John 5:25,28-29, is clear that Jesus refering to the same things as found in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, etc.

It is not a once only belief, but to be a continually burning and vibrant faith, even unto the first death if necessary:

Joh 11:25 ειπενG3004 V-2AAI-3S αυτηG846 P-DSF οG3588 T-NSM ιησουςG2424 N-NSM εγωG1473 P-1NS ειμιG1510 V-PAI-1S ηG3588 T-NSF αναστασιςG386 N-NSF καιG2532 CONJ ηG3588 T-NSF ζωηG2222 N-NSF οG3588 T-NSM πιστευωνG4100 V-PAP-NSM ειςG1519 PREP εμεG1473 P-1AS κανG2579 COND-K αποθανηG599 V-2AAS-3S ζησεταιG2198 V-FDI-3S

Joh 11:26 καιG2532 CONJ παςG3956 A-NSM οG3588 T-NSM ζωνG2198 V-PAP-NSM καιG2532 CONJ πιστευωνG4100 V-PAP-NSM ειςG1519 PREP εμεG1473 P-1AS ουG3756 PRT-N μηG3361 PRT-N αποθανηG599 V-2AAS-3S ειςG1519 PREP τονG3588 T-ASM αιωναG165 N-ASM πιστευειςG4100 V-PAI-2S τουτοG3778 D-ASN

V-PAP-NSM - Robinson's Morphological Analysis Codes
Tense: Present
Voice: Active
Mood: Participle
Case: Nominative
Number: Singular
Gender: Masculine

and this "presnt tense" being "continuous action; habitual action; often refelcts a lifestyle" - Greek Quick Reference Guide

...and so, yes I wholly and continually believe with all my heart, soul, strength, that even this very moment, that even if I die in it, as it is written, "even if he dies" [first death, sleep in the dust], that I "will live" [future tense, that is will come to live] again at the resurrection, but I am even moreso looking to be one of those that are translated without seeing death, being faithful in life by Him, being a chosen vessel of the mercy and grace of God, a brand plucked from the burning, believing He will be save to the uttermost, and not to the almost... and so therefore, in either case, seeing the first death or remaining with those on the earth at His coming, being then he calls those who have died in Him, yet live unto Him, unto life once more, I shall not taste of the 2nd death, to which Jesus refers when he says, "...who lives and believes in Me will never die"...

"...He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death." [Revelation 2:11]

...therefore the investigative judgment determines whether or not I have this continually demonstrated and Biblical faith, burning with Holy fire and living by the power and life of God...

...many claiming to be Christians, claiming to be earing Christ's character, claiming to be His followers but there is not fruit, there is only the "Lord, lord" hypocrisy of the pharisee, the mere outward adorning of the sheep, but inside are ravening wolves. There are tares among the wheat, and the harvest at the end will make sure that there is no tares gathered unto Jesus with the Wheat... this investigative judgment is necessary in the time of the Anti-typical Day of atonement, even as it was in type then:

And [this] shall be a statute for ever unto you: [that] in the seventh month, on the tenth [day] of the month, ye shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, [whether it be] one of your own country, or a stranger that sojourneth among you: Leviticus 16:29

...it is a very serious matter, for it deals with the commandments of God. We claim to take upon ourselves the name of God... yet if we do not lives lives in harmony with such a perfect character as His, then we are but mere hypocrites...

Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 2 Corinthians 10:5

Your concept of life and death is skewed.

The verse says very clearly I have passed the judgment (will not come into condemnation). It says very clearly I've passed from death to life. This is all in a current active statement. It isn't something future.

If I'm not mistaken the IJ is to find out who will pass the final judgment. John 5:24 says I've already passed.

 

[from scratch]

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. John 5:24

It must be understood along with this text:

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. Colossians 3:3

It is Christ Jesus that lives eternally, and those which are dead, are asleep "in the grave" [Ecclesiastes 9:10], all their "thoughts perish[ed]" [Psalms 146:4], and so the "...dead in Christ shall rise first." [1 Thessalonians 4:16] which is at "...his appearing..." [2 Timothy 4:8], which is the moment then that they shall "Awake and sing", them that had previously "...dwel[t] in dust..." [Isaiah 26:19], not dwelling in Heaven.

Therefore, it is eternal life, since Christ Jesus [who is the Head] can no longer die ["...dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him." Romans 6:9], for eternal life is "through" [Romans 6:23] Him.

Those which died "in him" even "...all live unto him." [Luke 20:38]. When shall they be resurrected? At the last day, when the heavens are no more [parted as a scroll], those* which have died in Him, shall be raised from their sleep [Job 14:12; Luke 20:35], "...the dead shall be raised incorruptible..." [1 Corinthians 15:52].

The death Jesus speaks of in John 5:24, is the 2nd Death, and the related "judgment" is the executive Judgment, after the 1,000 years, known as the Great White Throne Judgment, which is for the wicked, and the promise to not enter into it, is conditional based upon what one continually and stedfastly "believeth" [true Biblical Faith, not merely mental ascent, but the Faith which produces, that faith which is demonstrable...]. John 5:25,28-29, is clear that Jesus refering to the same things as found in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, etc.

It is not a once only belief, but to be a continually burning and vibrant faith, even unto the first death if necessary:

Joh 11:25 ειπενG3004 V-2AAI-3S αυτηG846 P-DSF οG3588 T-NSM ιησουςG2424 N-NSM εγωG1473 P-1NS ειμιG1510 V-PAI-1S ηG3588 T-NSF αναστασιςG386 N-NSF καιG2532 CONJ ηG3588 T-NSF ζωηG2222 N-NSF οG3588 T-NSM πιστευωνG4100 V-PAP-NSM ειςG1519 PREP εμεG1473 P-1AS κανG2579 COND-K αποθανηG599 V-2AAS-3S ζησεταιG2198 V-FDI-3S

Joh 11:26 καιG2532 CONJ παςG3956 A-NSM οG3588 T-NSM ζωνG2198 V-PAP-NSM καιG2532 CONJ πιστευωνG4100 V-PAP-NSM ειςG1519 PREP εμεG1473 P-1AS ουG3756 PRT-N μηG3361 PRT-N αποθανηG599 V-2AAS-3S ειςG1519 PREP τονG3588 T-ASM αιωναG165 N-ASM πιστευειςG4100 V-PAI-2S τουτοG3778 D-ASN

V-PAP-NSM - Robinson's Morphological Analysis Codes
Tense: Present
Voice: Active
Mood: Participle
Case: Nominative
Number: Singular
Gender: Masculine

and this "presnt tense" being "continuous action; habitual action; often refelcts a lifestyle" - Greek Quick Reference Guide

...and so, yes I wholly and continually believe with all my heart, soul, strength, that even this very moment, that even if I die in it, as it is written, "even if he dies" [first death, sleep in the dust], that I "will live" [future tense, that is will come to live] again at the resurrection, but I am even moreso looking to be one of those that are translated without seeing death, being faithful in life by Him, being a chosen vessel of the mercy and grace of God, a brand plucked from the burning, believing He will be save to the uttermost, and not to the almost... and so therefore, in either case, seeing the first death or remaining with those on the earth at His coming, being then he calls those who have died in Him, yet live unto Him, unto life once more, I shall not taste of the 2nd death, to which Jesus refers when he says, "...who lives and believes in Me will never die"...

"...He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death." [Revelation 2:11]

...therefore the investigative judgment determines whether or not I have this continually demonstrated and Biblical faith, burning with Holy fire and living by the power and life of God...

...many claiming to be Christians, claiming to be earing Christ's character, claiming to be His followers but there is not fruit, there is only the "Lord, lord" hypocrisy of the pharisee, the mere outward adorning of the sheep, but inside are ravening wolves. There are tares among the wheat, and the harvest at the end will make sure that there is no tares gathered unto Jesus with the Wheat... this investigative judgment is necessary in the time of the Anti-typical Day of atonement, even as it was in type then:

And [this] shall be a statute for ever unto you: [that] in the seventh month, on the tenth [day] of the month, ye shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, [whether it be] one of your own country, or a stranger that sojourneth among you: Leviticus 16:29

...it is a very serious matter, for it deals with the commandments of God. We claim to take upon ourselves the name of God... yet if we do not lives lives in harmony with such a perfect character as His, then we are but mere hypocrites...

Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 2 Corinthians 10:5

No one appearing at the White Throne Judgment will escape and have life. They will enter death with satan and his host.