Dover All Over

[AV1611VET]

QV please: Dover trial

QV please: Weather

QV please: Psalm 83:15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm.

 

[HitchSlap]

Dover. Ben Dover

 

[BelievingIsObeying]

Haha he said bend over!

 

[AV1611VET]

Haha he said bend over!

He is just being silly.

 

[Tomk80]

QV please: Dover trial

QV please: Weather

QV please: Psalm 83:15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm.

This is a joke, right?

 

[AV1611VET]

This is a joke, right?

Wrong -- it's a belief.

 

[Tomk80]

Wow. Just wow.

Just to get this straight, you seriously believe that there is a connection between the Kitzmiller trial and a severe storm in that region?

 

[AV1611VET]

Wow. Just wow.

Just to get this straight, you seriously believe that there is a connection between the Kitzmiller trial and a severe storm in that region?

Here are some facts -- you decide:

• 30 October 1991: The Halloween Monster, a.k.a. The Perfect Storm, strikes the U.S. amid the "land-for-peace" Madrid peace talks; President Bush's ocean-side home destroyed.
• 23 August 1992: President Bush moves Madrid talks to U.S. soil; that very day, Hurricane Andrew devastates southern Florida.
• 16 January 1994: President Clinton meets with Syrian President Hafez Assad to discuss more "land for peace" arrangements; less than 24 hours later, a 6.9 earthquake pulverized southern California.
• 1 September 1993: President Clinton announces a meeting with Arafat for the Oslo peace accords, to be held on 13 September; after a week of meandering in the Atlantic Ocean, Hurricane Emily hits North Carolina on that very day.
• 21 January 1998: while waiting to meet with Arafat at the White House, President Clinton's sex scandal breaks out.
• 27 September 1998: Arafat is meeting with the president in Washington; Hurricane Georges hits Alabama and stalls. The hurricane stalls until Arafat leaves and then it dissipates. Parts of Alabama declared a disaster area.
• 17 October 1998: Arafat comes to the Wye Plantation meeting; incredible rains fall on Texas, which cause record flooding. Parts of Texas declared a disaster area.
• 3 September 1999: Secretary of State Albright meets with Arafat in Israel; Hurricane Dennis comes ashore on this very day after weeks of changing course in the Atlantic Ocean.
• 12-26 July 2000: Arafat at the Camp David meetings. Powerful droughts throughout the country. Forest fires explode in West into uncontrollable fires. By the end of August, 7 million acres are burnt.
• 9 November 2000, two days after the presidential election: Arafat meets with President Clinton at the White House to try and salvage the peace process; worst election crisis in over 100 years occurs.

 

[Tomk80]

Here are some facts -- you decide:

Just so I get this straight. You believe that, because a couple of parents decided to initiate a lawsuit on the teaching of ID in Dover, God flooded the South West of PA, hitting thousands of people who had absolutely nothing to do with this lawsuit. He did so three weeks before the judge made a decision on the lawsuit. Not a very discerning fellow, this God of yours.


I can give you whole lists of incidents that happen to were followed by natural disasters. Of course, that neglects all the similar incidents that were not followed by natural disasters, and all the natural disasters that were not preceeded by incidents. And all the incidents that followed natural disasters, rather than the other way round.

All your list shows is that you, or someone else, had too much time on their hands. But not enough time or perseverence to actually do a complete job of listing all incidents and all natural disasters.

 

[AV1611VET]

Just so I get this straight. You believe that, because a couple of parents decided to initiate a lawsuit on the teaching of ID in Dover, God flooded the South West of PA, hitting thousands of people who had absolutely nothing to do with this lawsuit. He did so three weeks before the judge made a decision on the lawsuit. Not a very discerning fellow, this God of yours.

You're not His judge, either.

I can give you whole lists of incidents that happen to were followed by natural disasters.

So? didn't Pharaoh tell Moses the same thing?

All your list shows is that you, or someone else, had too much time on their hands.

You forgot to critique the verse I quoted.

 

[bhsmte]

Entertainment, at it's best!!!

 

[essentialsaltes]

Here are some facts -- you decide:

• 30 October 1991: The Halloween Monster, a.k.a. The Perfect Storm, strikes the U.S. amid the "land-for-peace" Madrid peace talks; President Bush's ocean-side home destroyed.
• 23 August 1992: President Bush moves Madrid talks to U.S. soil; that very day, Hurricane Andrew devastates southern Florida.
• 16 January 1994: President Clinton meets with Syrian President Hafez Assad to discuss more "land for peace" arrangements; less than 24 hours later, a 6.9 earthquake pulverized southern California.
• 1 September 1993: President Clinton announces a meeting with Arafat for the Oslo peace accords, to be held on 13 September; after a week of meandering in the Atlantic Ocean, Hurricane Emily hits North Carolina on that very day.
• 21 January 1998: while waiting to meet with Arafat at the White House, President Clinton's sex scandal breaks out.
• 27 September 1998: Arafat is meeting with the president in Washington; Hurricane Georges hits Alabama and stalls. The hurricane stalls until Arafat leaves and then it dissipates. Parts of Alabama declared a disaster area.
• 17 October 1998: Arafat comes to the Wye Plantation meeting; incredible rains fall on Texas, which cause record flooding. Parts of Texas declared a disaster area.
• 3 September 1999: Secretary of State Albright meets with Arafat in Israel; Hurricane Dennis comes ashore on this very day after weeks of changing course in the Atlantic Ocean.
• 12-26 July 2000: Arafat at the Camp David meetings. Powerful droughts throughout the country. Forest fires explode in West into uncontrollable fires. By the end of August, 7 million acres are burnt.
• 9 November 2000, two days after the presidential election: Arafat meets with President Clinton at the White House to try and salvage the peace process; worst election crisis in over 100 years occurs.

It's such a relief that when George W Bush got elected, nothing bad ever happened to America for the next 8 years.

 

[Lucy Stulz]

Entertainment, at it's best!!!

Isn't it though!

 

[Lucy Stulz]

Here are some facts -- you decide:

Oh goody! STATISTICS TIME!

• 30 October 1991: The Halloween Monster, a.k.a. The Perfect Storm, strikes the U.S. amid the "land-for-peace" Madrid peace talks; President Bush's ocean-side home destroyed.

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  And a whole boat load of fishermen died. I bet they were busy brokering a deal for the Palestinians! Cuz if there's one thing God doesn't like...it's peace!
  
  And who better to take it out on than a bunch of people who just happened to be out on the ocean?
  
  How could God possibly know who was going to be where?
  
  (HINT: You have now officially made a mockery of your own God. )
  
  

  [*]23 August 1992: President Bush moves Madrid talks to U.S. soil; that very day, Hurricane Andrew devastates southern Florida.

  
  Sure! Why not? 15-29 additional dead people who made the mistake of visiting Florida!
  
  (YOur God is looking more like a spree killer right about now. Is that what you were aiming for?)
  
  

  [*]16 January 1994: President Clinton meets with Syrian President Hafez Assad to discuss more "land for peace" arrangements; less than 24 hours later, a 6.9 earthquake pulverized southern California.

  
  
  Another 60-70 people dead? OK. Were they ALL part of Clinton's "Land for Peace" arrangement?
  
  That'll show them!
  
  (Again, God's body count is racking up...maybe you could help me here: how many of these people were DIRECTLY involved in what you think God was punishing us for?)
  
  

  [*]1 September 1993: President Clinton announces a meeting with Arafat for the Oslo peace accords, to be held on 13 September; after a week of meandering in the Atlantic Ocean, Hurricane Emily hits North Carolina on that very day.

  
  OK! We get it! God hates Peace! Best to keep up with war!
  
  (Are you sure you worship the Judeo-Christian God? Cuz it seems more like Mars...)
  
  

  [*]21 January 1998: while waiting to meet with Arafat at the White House, President Clinton's sex scandal breaks out.

  
  Not even sure how to parse that one...
  
  

  [*]27 September 1998: Arafat is meeting with the president in Washington; Hurricane Georges hits Alabama and stalls.

  
  Hey, I was in the evacuation of New Orleans for that one! Some of us assumed the mayor of NO had an "in" with a voodoo priest since it was aiming for NO. Huh! Who knew....God was punishing Alabama for Arafat!
  
  

  The hurricane stalls until Arafat leaves and then it dissipates. Parts of Alabama declared a disaster area.

  
  So next time Alabama wants to broker a peace deal with the PLO the'll know better!
  
  

  [*]17 October 1998: Arafat comes to the Wye Plantation meeting; incredible rains fa

  
  Oh I can't go on....this is ridiculous. ARE YOU ACTUALLY SERIOUS? Is this a real part of your religion? Or are you angry at God so you want to try to make him look like a monster?
  
  Cuz I don't see much in the way of coherent theology in this one. Even by YOUR standards!

 

[AV1611VET]

Oh I can't go on....this is ridiculous. ARE YOU ACTUALLY SERIOUS? Is this a real part of your religion? Or are you angry at God so you want to try to make him look like a monster?

Cuz I don't see much in the way of coherent theology in this one. Even by YOUR standards!

Wait until the events of the Tribulation start to occur!

Then you'll really have something to ook at!

(Unless, hopefully, you're not here.)

 

[bhsmte]

What will come next? it could be anything folks and it will indeed be entertaining.

 

[CabVet]

Wait until the events of the Tribulation start to occur!

Oh, yes, wait and see... People have been saying that since when again? The week after Jesus was crucified? Yeah, wait, wait, wait, wait...

 

[CabVet]

What will come next? it could be anything folks and it will indeed be entertaining.

I bet next he will claim that someone aborted a baby a month before every hurricane that ever happened. And gay couples had sex 48 hours before every earthquake. And Christians lied 24 hours before every terrorist attack. And witches performed voodoo rituals 12 hours before every tsunami. I just wonder what those "bad people" do during other times when there are no major catastrophes going on, do they behave well?

 

[Coelo]

I bet next he will claim that someone aborted a baby a month before every hurricane that ever happened. And gay couples had sex 48 hours before every earthquake.

I will say it: Abortion, Porn and same sex marriage is bringing this country to ruin. All decided by a so called supreme court that has turned our constitution into toilet paper.


Global Ministries - John Wesley, Sermon 129, The Cause and Cure of Earthquakes

The Cause and Cure of Earthquakes

By John Wesley

Sermon 129

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[First published in the year 1750.]

 

[CabVet]

I will say it: Abortion, Porn and same sex marriage is bringing this country to ruin. All decided by a so called supreme court that has turned our constitution into toilet paper.


Global Ministries - John Wesley, Sermon 129, The Cause and Cure of Earthquakes

The Cause and Cure of Earthquakes

By John Wesley

Sermon 129

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[First published in the year 1750.]

Good, what else? You only mention earthquakes, what causes hurricanes? Adultery? I also notice that you cite a sermon written by a pastor in 1750, perhaps you are not familiar with Pat Robertson? I will help you out.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...-earthquake-on-pact-haitians-made-with-satan/