Now Der Alter does not even respond to my Post #399
And now a few more comments from various sources:
Hebrews 10:37(37) "For yet a little while, And He who is coming will come and will not tarry.
(38) Now the just shall live by faith;But if anyone draws back, My soul has no pleasure in him."
2 Pet. ii. I, 3 'Who privily shall bring in damnable heresies (αιρεσεις απώλειας
. . .and bring upon themselves swift destruction (απώλειαν
...and their damnation (απώλεια
slumbereth not': Pp.44 Lightfoot Revision of the English Version NT
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Mt 7:13, 26:8; Mk 14:4; Joh 17:12; Act 8:20; Ro 9:22; Phl 1:28, 3:19; 2Th 2:3; 1Ti 6:9; Heb 10:39; 2Pe 2:1,3,3:7,16; Rev 17:8, 11:2
Strong G684 From a presumed derivative of G622; ruin or loss (physical, spiritual or eternal)
Louw-Nida Lexicon Violence, Harm, Destroy, Kill
All of the following translations support "THE SON OF DESTRUCTION":
MOUNCE NCV NET NIRV NIV NLT VOICE WEB YLT ESV HCSB PHILLIPS LEB MSG
John 17:12 I guarded them and not one of them is lost, except the son of destruction, so that the Scripture may be fulfilled. International Standard Version (©2012)
Footnotes:John 17:12 Albert Barnes, Notes on the New Testament.
Cross references:John 17:12 : Ps. 41:9; John 6:70.
(CEB)12 While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by[a] that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled.
The Final Days - Jeremiah 23:20 The Man of Lawlessness The Man of Sin is also called the Man of Lawlessness in some bible translations. He is then also referred to as the son of destruction or perdition in 2nd Thessalonians 2:3.
Clement of Alexandria Stromata Book IV: For they have heard in the commandment that "the broad and wide way leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in by it."[40]
Clementine Homily XVIII: `Behold, I have set before thy face the way of life and the way of death.' And the Teacher spoke in harmony with this:[26]
Cyprian Treatise XII Three Books of Testimonies Against the Jews: On this same subject, according to Matthew: "How broad and spacious is the way which leadeth unto death, and many there are who go in thereby: how straight and narrow is the way that leadeth to life, and few there are that find it!"[412]
Didache: one of life and one of death;[3]
Hippolytus Exegetical Fragments: "And they went out at privy doors; "showing thus by anticipation, that he who desires to partake of the water in the garden must renounce the broad gate, and enter by the strait and narrow.[215]
Hippolytus Refutation of All Heresies Book V: Concerning these, it is said, the Saviour has expressly declared that "straight and narrow is the way that leadeth unto life, and few there are that enter upon it; whereas broad and spacious is the way that leadeth unto destruction, and many there are that pass through it."[120]
Hippolytus Refutation of All Heresies Book V: On account of this, he says, Jesus uses the words, "I am the true gate."[88]
Tertullian Against Marcion Book II: But who, when so many incentives to evil were assailing him, would desire that good, which he could despise with impunity? Who, again, would take care of what he could lose without danger? You read how broad is the road to evil,[170]
Tertullian On Fasting: More easily, it may be, through the "strait gate"[123]
Clement of Alexandria The Instructor Book II: Such are the men who believe in their belly, "whose God is their belly, whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things." To them the apostle predicted no good when he said, "whose end is destruction."[54]
Origen Commentary on Matthew Book XI: And do not suppose that Paul said that he was truly God; for just as the belly, though it is not the god of those who prize pleasure too highly, being lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, is said by Paul to be their god,[123]
απώλεια destruction BAG; Ardnt Gingrich Pp. 103;
Louw Nida 32; C Brown Vol 1:462; Kittel Vol 1:396
Εισελθατε δια της στενης πυλης· δτι πλατεια και ευρυχωρος η οδος η απαγουσα εις την απωλειαν, και πολλοι εισιν οι εισερχομενοι δι' αυτης·
Word for word translation:
Go in through the narrow gate; because wide place the gate and broadspaced the way the one leading off into the destruction and many are the ones going in through it.
Greek-English Word Study NT by McReynolds 1998, Tyndale House Publishers