If I really want to learn my stuff on evolution vs. creation...

[pjnlsn]

not at all and insisting that it is so does not make it so - our closest cousins sre water melons and jelly fish as i read it - twinc

It is likely that all life is descended from or near a common ancestor in accordance with the principle of speciation. It is also likely, more accessibly, that you have no or very little correct information on the topic.

 

[KCfromNC]

Christianity + common descent - things get hairy for Genesis.

Not at all - it's a metaphor showing that our ability to discern right from wrong imposes on us a responsibility to listen to that inner voice.

No need to believe in magic to get a useful message from the mythology.

 

[Sectio Aurea]

not at all and insisting that it is so does not make it so - our closest cousins sre water melons and jelly fish as i read it - twinc

Perhaps you should read it again.

Sadly only about 1% of all species remain with us today, so there are numerous close and distant "cousins" now extinct including all the other species of human.

But there are however at least 17 species of ape. Our closest cousins being the four great apes.

So watermelons and jellyfish are about as closely related to humans as colocynth and sea anemone.

 

[twinc]

Perhaps you should read it again.

Sadly only about 1% of all species remain with us today, so there are numerous close and distant "cousins" now extinct including all the other species of human.

But there are however at least 17 species of ape. Our closest cousins being the four great apes.

So watermelons and jellyfish are about as closely related to humans as colocynth and sea anemone.

on a reread it seemed to say mostly water - twinc

 

[Sectio Aurea]

on a reread it seemed to say mostly water - twinc

The epitome of deepity.

 

[LOVEthroughINTELLECT]

What's the best place to go?

I'm looking for the most dead-pan, non-biased, and all encompassing source that I can find which just as readily points out the strengths as well as the weaknesses of both sides and speaks as well to the nature of carbon dating, the age of the universe, etc..

While I read Signature in the Cell a long time ago I still feel like I understand an argument but that it still didn't elucidate things much aside from attempting to poke holes in evolution with statistical analysis and probability multipliers which could mean something or nothing all depending on whether or not the author had all of the catalysts considered.

While I absolutely do believe that what's going on in the world today from all angles proves without a doubt that there is something of a hidden/occult war between opposite forces and I consider myself on the sold-out Christian side of that war I still want to get my head around Genesis a little bit better, ie. to understand what it is and what it isn't.

For anyone whose done this kind of research and wanted to get the raw truth rather than simply getting patted on the back for views they already had (in favor of either evolution or creation) - what sources did you find to be of the best quality at explaining these things? Who had their order of salience laid out best in terms of addressing the logical lynch-pins of both and tearing down or edifying those pieces of logic in the most honest manner possible?

It is not exactly what you are requesting, but Only a Theory: Evolution and the Battle for America's Soul, by Kenneth R. Miller clears a lot of things up about the science and at the same time explains a lot of the psychological and political issues behind the controversy. The book is conciliatory in nature but if you are a fan of the Intelligent Design movement you might not like it: Miller shows the true motives of the Intelligent Design movement, and they have nothing to do with evolutionary theory.