Man accidentally shoots self while bowling, police say

[Glas Ridire]

Don't know don't care. This has nothing to do with the discussion.

Except that it has to do with people NOT accidentally shooting themselves while following manufacturer's recommendations for how to carry the device and wearing it in a holster of some sort. Dang man! Would you blast someone in a conversation on the dangers of drunk driving, for talking about how easy it is to go through a construction zone at the posted speed limit? When the topic is somebody using a machine inappropriately & getting hurt, I fail to see how talking about using the same sort of machine safely is irrelevant. Maybe it didn't fit your meme, boo hoo. It was relevant.

I guess you have no problems bowling with a gun in your pocket. Go ahead and try it! I hope it is everything you imagine, just try not to shoot the boy on lane 8

Again? There hasn't been a problem the last two times I went bowling (10 or so year span because I have a life) while carrying a gun according to manufacturer's specifications in a quality holster. But that doesn't fit the meme either, this keeps happening to you. . . maybe you should re-evaluate your stance, adopt memes that do have basis in the real world, you know, join us out here.

 

[TheChristianSurvivalGuide]

In other words, you are afraid. I bet the stupid bowler was also afraid.

I would certainly feel fear in a situation where I reasonably perceived there to be an immediate threat. However, I don't assume this to be a regular occurrence.

In light of that I have to say that no, I'm not afraid, I am simply aware.

I'm also not afraid that at any given point I'm going to be in a motor vehicle accident. Yet I'm aware that this is a potential reality and as such I wear my seat belt.

 

[Glas Ridire]

A quick question.

Had you been in that cinema where all those people were shot would you have taken your gun out and fired?
How many would have been killed if 10 others had pulled out their guns and started firing in the dark?
each one of them thinking they were justified because they or theirs were in danger.

em, likely just the crazy guy popping innocents. . . it is pretty easy to distinguish between people who look like they are going to the movies and a guy made up and shooting random strangers. Be even harder for him to return fire the more good guys filling his torso with lead. Probably woulda saved a bunch of lives. . . but that isn't the meme you were looking for huh?

 

[TheChristianSurvivalGuide]

Now you are telling me what I think? You don't have the first clue. Who do you think you are, some kind of mind reader?

And yet you stated that I was afraid in a later post.

Fine, I said I beg to differ. The reason is because there is an implication that bowling with a gun in your pocket is an inherently dangerous activity. So I asked you to qualify the danger. You stated the possibility of shooting myself or another.

Now I'm asking you how that might actually happen because I believe the potentiality of such a possibility is fairly low and is dependent on several factors that may shed a light on the cause of the vast majority of "gun accidents".

Can we proceed?

 

[Panzerkamfwagen]

A quick question.

Had you been in that cinema where all those people were shot would you have taken your gun out and fired?
How many would have been killed if 10 others had pulled out their guns and started firing in the dark?
each one of them thinking they were justified because they or theirs were in danger.

That cinema banned guns, so there could not have been a mass shooting.

As an aside, you're more likely to die from the flu than you are to die from an accidental gunshot.

 

[TheChristianSurvivalGuide]

A quick question.

Had you been in that cinema where all those people were shot would you have taken your gun out and fired?

I can't honestly tell you yes or no as I wasn't there, don't know what my position would be (tactical vantage point), the approach of the subject to my position, my target's backstop, etc.

My practical answer is "probably not." If I had the chance to escape with my family that is what I would have done.

Situation Awareness and proactive defensive actions are key. For this reason I tend to sit near exits of any structure.

How many would have been killed if 10 others had pulled out their guns and started firing in the dark?

There's way too many factors to be able to tell.

Historically speaking, when a mass shooter has encountered armed resistance he/she very quickly ceases offensive action. In light of that, less people would have been victimized but there is no way to know what the number would have been.

A further question could be, "Would an armed person, not a uniformed police officer who was engaging the subject be engaged by other shooters or law enforcement?" The answer is, potentially yes.

each one of them thinking they were justified because they or theirs were in danger.

And that's why the answer is potentially yes.

 

[JCSr]

I would certainly feel fear in a situation where I reasonably perceived there to be an immediate threat. However, I don't assume this to be a regular occurrence.

In light of that I have to say that no, I'm not afraid, I am simply aware.

I'm also not afraid that at any given point I'm going to be in a motor vehicle accident. Yet I'm aware that this is a potential reality and as such I wear my seat belt.

If you say so.

 

[JCSr]

And yet you stated that I was afraid in a later post.

Fine, I said I beg to differ. The reason is because there is an implication that bowling with a gun in your pocket is an inherently dangerous activity. So I asked you to qualify the danger. You stated the possibility of shooting myself or another.

Now I'm asking you how that might actually happen because I believe the potentiality of such a possibility is fairly low and is dependent on several factors that may shed a light on the cause of the vast majority of "gun accidents".

Can we proceed?

Ask the bowler the danger of bowling with a gun in his pocket, then get back to me.

Of course, this is not the topic of discussion.

 

[Panzerkamfwagen]

If you say so.

The thing is, there are bad people in the world, and they won't always pick someone else...

 

[USincognito]

Did anyone already make a "Worst. Glock and Bowl Promotion. Ever!" joke yet?

 

[Jeffwhosoever]

Did anyone already make a "Worst. Glock and Bowl Promotion. Ever!" joke yet?

LOL. Great idea.

 

[TheChristianSurvivalGuide]

Ask the bowler the danger of bowling with a gun in his pocket, then get back to me.

Of course, this is not the topic of discussion.

But you're the one who seems to be implying that bowling with a pistol in your pocket is an inherently dangerous activity. So I'm asking you a line of questions that is specifically relevant to such an implication.

 

[mmksparbud]

True story--A guy and his buddies were out hunting all day--northern Calif. For a lot of guys, esp flatlanders, hunting=drinking. Most people do not carry a handgun for hunting, but he had one. They stopped for more beer and a game of pool--the idiot had his gun in his waistband. Somewhere along the line, he bend over the wrong way or something, but the gun went off--the bullet went in at the base of his penis, and out the tip, essentially clearing a path through the urethra. The idiot was so drunk he felt no pain. The paramedics said he laughed and joked about it all the way down to the hospital. The paramedic was the husband of a waitress that worked for me. I do not know what the outcome was--but can only vaguely imagine the pain. I'm sure a man who has had any damage to that area can imagine it better than I.
Hunting and drinking really do not go together, but people insist on it--when I lived in North Dakota, people would put bright orange cloth over their cows with the word cow in big black letters--they had lost too many cows during deer season-- the 2 look so much alike, to a drunk!! This is not made up.

 

[JCSr]

But you're the one who seems to be implying that bowling with a pistol in your pocket is an inherently dangerous activity. So I'm asking you a line of questions that is specifically relevant to such an implication.

It is, and the OP is proof. You go ahead and bowl with a gun in your pocket. Have fun.

 

[JCSr]

The thing is, there are bad people in the world, and they won't always pick someone else...

The only thing to stop a bad person is a stupid person bowling with a gun in his pocket.

 

[Glas Ridire]

It is, and the OP is proof. You go ahead and bowl with a gun in your pocket. Have fun.

Would an iwb count? My smaller pistols are just a little to big for pocket carry. Really I don't carry the Makarov all that much, but yeah I have been bowling while carrying and it wasn't any problem. It isn't like bowling is that intense a sport. English saddle equestrian activities have never been a problem nor mountain biking, nor bouldering. I do have fun, I just have fun without irrational fear of firearms.

 

[TheChristianSurvivalGuide]

It is, and the OP is proof. You go ahead and bowl with a gun in your pocket. Have fun.

An isolated incident does not necessitate that an activity in inherently dangerous.

Again, how about we examine the mechanical actions that were necessary for the gun to discharge. Would you agree to that?

 

[TheQuietRiot]

An isolated incident does not necessitate that an activity in inherently dangerous.

Again, how about we examine the mechanical actions that were necessary for the gun to discharge. Would you agree to that?

I would consider that carrying a loaded weapon is inherently dangerous. Much in the same way that walking with scissors is. However, sufficient precautions SHOULD prevent accidents happening, but we know they still do.

We can agree that if did not have a firearm on his person whilst bowling then he would have not shot himself in the leg.

Why you would want to arm yourself with a deadly weapon while going for a game of bowling I don't think I'll ever understand.

 

[EveryTime]

Why you would want to arm yourself with a deadly weapon while going for a game of bowling I don't think I'll ever understand.

You don't understand? just think USA, they can so they do, if they couldn't they wouldn't.

In US movies they hunt ghosts with guns.

 

[Panzerkamfwagen]

LOL

I watched that before however I could not determine if it was real or fake. I don't mean to laugh when somebody is injured yet that guy was pretty dumb!

Oh, no it's real, and the guys name is Lee Paige.