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When educations prove to be a waste of money.
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More Bibliclically true is that just because you believe Adam did not exist does not mean he did not exist.Was 'Luke' living at the time Adam supposedly lived, or was he (whoever 'he' was) reflecting the beliefs of those alive during the late apostolic period? Just because 'Luke' believed Adam existed, does not mean Adam existed.
More Bibliclically true is that just because you believe Adam did not exist does not mean he did not exist.
janxharris said:Do say why you think Adam did not exist.
The nature of the source material; Genesis 2-3 was composed during the exilic period by the Yahwist who made use of Deuteronomistic theology but universalising it.
See Prologue to History: The Yahwist as Historian in Genesis by John Van Seters and Pentateuch, Hexateuch, or Enneateuch? edited by Thomas B. Dozeman, Konrad Schmid and Thomas Romer.
When educations prove to be a waste of money.
Same old same old. . ."Hath God said?"
Fail.Romans 9-11 is about Israel, not individual salvation.Ro 9:18, 27, 30-33 are about salvation.
Please show that God does not exist.
My belief is grounded upon evidence of the powerful witness of the Holy Spirit to my spiritMy belief is grounded upon both literary and scientific evidence.
My belief is grounded upon evidence of the powerful witness of the Holy Spirit to my spirit testifying that the canonical Scriptures are true.
"Evidence" is in the eye of the beholder.No, deal with the argument. I am laying out an argument using evidence assessing the composition of Gen. 2-3.
And I could speculate that maybe there is no gravity, for which speculation I have as much concrete evidence as you have for your speculation.As Peter Enns has pointed out:
Israels history as a nation can be broken down as follows:
1. Israel is created by God at the exodus through a cosmic battle (gods are defeated and the Red Sea is divided);
2. The Israelites are given Canaan to inhabit, a lush land flowing with milk and honey;
3. They remain in the land as long as they obey the Mosaic law;
4. They persist in a pattern of disobedience and are exiled to Babylon.
Israels history parallels Adams drama in Genesis:
1. Adam is created in Genesis 2 after the taming of chaos in Genesis 1;
2. Adam is placed in a lush garden;
3. Law (not to eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil) is given as a stipulation for remaining in the garden;
4. Adam and Eve disobey and are exiled.
You could say that the Adam story came first and then the Israelites just followed that pattern. But there is another way. Maybe Israels history happened first, and the Adam story was written to reflect that history.
You are only speculating.
Swell someone read a book.
Good, then please prove false the testimony of the Holy Spirit to my spirit that the canonical Scriptures are God's truth.You claim that my statement 'Adam didn't exist' is false, I am now asking you to prove your claim.
Further, I believe God exists, being a Christian and all that.