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Achilles6129 said in post 997:

The light source may have been from inside of God's temple in heaven.

Interesting idea. For the third "heaven" of the earth (2 Corinthians 12:2b) could be not far beyond both the earth's atmosphere (the first "heaven": Genesis 1:20b) and a small region of surrounding, outer space (the second "heaven": Deuteronomy 4:19). That is, the earth's third heaven, in a fourth, spiritual, spatial dimension, could be close enough to the earth that light sent down from the third heaven miraculously, and temporarily, by God could have lit up the earth as bright as day, three literal days before he created the sun (Genesis 1:14-19). Genesis 1:3-5 does not have to mean "Let light exist for the first time anywhere", but can simply mean "Let there be light on the earth".
 
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Why do you call them "forms"? What do you mean by that, instead of simply calling them, for example, created things?
It's what I learned when doing a bit of a bible diploma. 'Forms', 'elements', call them what you will but it is a poem setting up how orderly God made the world with these natural places of land and water and sky and even space all being populated accordingly and appropriately. As the Framework Wiki says:
Genesis 1 divides its six days of Creation into two groups of three ("triads"). The introduction, Genesis 1:1-2, "In the beginning ... the earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep...", describes the primal universe containing darkness, a watery "deep", and a formless earth, over which hovers the spirit of God. The following three days describe the first triad: the creation of light and its separation from the primal darkness (Gen.1:3-5); the creation of the "firmament" within the primal waters so that the heavens (space between the firmament and the surface of the seas) and the "waters under the firmament" can appear (Gen. 1:6-8); and the separation of the waters under the firmament into seas and dry land with its plants and trees. The second triad describes the peopling of the three elements of the first: sun, moon, and stars for the day and night (Gen. 1:14-19), fish and birds for the heavens and seas (Gen. 1:20-23), and finally animals and man for the vegetated land (24-31).

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Basically, your rather sad and unfounded and illogical and completely alliterate reading of Genesis 1 convinces me you don't even know what the word literal means. A literal reading of Genesis is God made it in 6 days and rested on the 7th. That's it. Done and dusted. You would modify it into unintelligible gobbledegook with no rhyme or reason at all. But when one reads Genesis according to the genre of creative historical narrative it is, one realises that the first few chapters are all rhyme full of theological reason.
 
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Basically, your rather sad and unfounded and illogical and completely alliterate reading of Genesis 1 convinces me you don't even know what the word literal means. A literal reading of Genesis is God made it in 6 days and rested on the 7th. That's it. Done and dusted. You would modify it into unintelligible gobbledegook with no rhyme or reason at all. But when one reads Genesis according to the genre of creative historical narrative it is, one realises that the first few chapters are all rhyme full of theological reason.

So if you think that Gen. 1 is symbolic, what do you think of the Flood narrative? There are numerous problems with a local flood or a 'parable' story. Also, what do you think of the Tower of Babel?

Interesting idea. For the third "heaven" of the earth (2 Corinthians 12:2b) could be not far beyond both the earth's atmosphere (the first "heaven": Genesis 1:20b) and a small region of surrounding, outer space (the second "heaven": Deuteronomy 4:19). That is, the earth's third heaven, in a fourth, spiritual, spatial dimension, could be close enough to the earth that light sent down from the third heaven miraculously, and temporarily, by God could have lit up the earth as bright as day, three literal days before he created the sun (Genesis 1:14-19). Genesis 1:3-5 does not have to mean "Let light exist for the first time anywhere", but can simply mean "Let there be light on the earth".

Exactly. It is my opinion that God probably did just that - the light in Gen. 1 is supernatural light shining from heaven onto the earth. Remember God did not create the firmament called "sky" or "heaven" until later.
 
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