Why do baptists think salvation is so easily attained?

[Setyoufree]

...the work of God, it does not fail.

Yes, Christ universally saved the entire race from the curse of the law....That work is complete - it is perfect - it did not fail, but you can reject that truth. God will not force your will. You must chose to remain in Him by faith.

 

[FredVB]

The actual salvation that is promised, from Yahweh God, is the work of God, through the righteous life of Christ through his works and atoning sacrifice, and work of his Spirit in believers, from God's grace, according to the essential faith of salvation with which believers respond to the revelation for it given to them. As it is the work of God, it does not fail.

Passages speaking of salvation for all men are speaking of gospel salvation to be made available for any of all nationalities. And what you suggest makes no sense indeed does not make sense, with your interpretation. But Hebrews, whether from Paul or not, just like other epistles, is written to assemblies of believers, and as it is with all assemblies, there may be some there with some belief, but not that essential faith of salvation, and so it is sinful, unbelieving hearts that turn away from God, this is not said to happen with those saved according to the essential faith, that is the work of God, but all in an assembly should make sure of their convictions, so true believers can be assured, and those who are not can be aware of it and truly come to salvation rather than hardening and turning away from God's grace. And good works, though not saving any, do accompany the believers of the true essential faith.

Yes, Christ universally saved the entire race from the curse of the law....That work is complete - it is perfect - it did not fail, but you can reject that truth. God will not force your will. You must chose to remain in Him by faith.

Yes, I am saved according to faith in Christ with his accomplishment, with it being in him. His work is complete and perfect, in which I am saved. But seriously, it does not do away with all the morality already established even from Yahweh God. Our life of works are still to be in obedience, with the one who should be our Lord, in accordance with morality already required in what was said. As it is with any, with true essential faith, salvation is God's work and will not fail, and we are the ones who endure to the end.

 

[Setyoufree]

Again, we must continue in the faith until the end. If we let go of our faith in Christ we will perish. It's that simple.

 

[Setyoufree]

Matt 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there shall be famines and earthquakes in divers places. 8 But all these things are the beginning of travail. 9 Then shall they deliver you up unto tribulation, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all the nations for my name's sake. 10 And then shall many stumble, and shall deliver up one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall arise, and shall lead many astray. 12 And because iniquity shall be multiplied, the love of the many shall wax cold. 13 But he that endureth to the end, the same shall be saved.


Your faith must endure until you die! If you give up Christ you give up eternal life. Some have and will do it....Why? Pride.

Everyone who gives us Christ has turned to self-righteousness. Sinners need Christ, those who give up Christ apparently don't view themselves as sinners. That's a deception according to 1 John 1:8

 

[Hentenza]

Saving faith is keeping your faith in Christ. It's choice. I wish that you wouldn't make it so complicated.

Do you have a problem addressing all of my post? I see that you have a penchant for ignoring most of people's posts address to you and only quote little portions of it. I, and others, are taking the time to respond to you honestly, maybe you should do the same.

 

[Setyoufree]

There is one thing that we can be sure of. If God calls a person to salvation that person is saved.

Repeating something doesn't make it true. God has saved all men in Christ Jesus, but not all will be saved. Why? Unbelief. Otherwise all those hundreds of warnings not to give up one's faith are meaningless and you end up throwing out most of the NT.

 

[Setyoufree]

Heb 2:12 Take care, brethren, that there not be in any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart that falls away from the living God. 13 But encourage one another day after day, as long as it is still called "Today," so that none of you will be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ, if we hold fast the beginning of our assurance firm until the end....

 

[Setyoufree]

Do you have a problem addressing all of my post?

There's nothing to address. The Bible is clear that we are once saved always saved as long as our faith remains in Christ.

 

[mandelduke]

If I had to have faith or do good works, I guess I would be going to hell! Good thing me and God are good friends.

 

[Setyoufree]

Guys, I've just learned from a moderator that I can't debate against Baptist doctrines. So, I guess that's it. Of course I think that is dangerous position...the Bible should be the final word...not a denomination. My two cents...

 

[mandelduke]

Guys, I've just learned from a moderator that I can't debate against Baptist doctrines. So, I guess that's it. Of course I think that is dangerous position...the Bible should be the final word...not a denomination. My two cents...

Brother they did you a favor!

 

[Keachian]

Guys, I've just learned from a moderator that I can't debate against Baptist doctrines. So, I guess that's it. Of course I think that is dangerous position...the Bible should be the final word...not a denomination. My two cents...

The whole reason why I am a Baptist is because I believe it is the denomination which lines up with what the Bible says.

 

[Setyoufree]

Not in all areas.....Baptist have doctrines which contradict the gospel, but the moderators here do not want me to expose these errors. So my hands are tied.

 

[Setyoufree]

I guess if any Baptist wishes to debate the issue of the immortality of the soul then you'll have to go here: http://www.christianforums.com/t7728132/ because I am not allowed to go against Baptist theology here.

 

[phoenixdem]

I guess if any Baptist wishes to debate the issue of the immortality of the soul then you'll have to go here: http://www.christianforums.com/t7728132/ because I am not allowed to go against Baptist theology here.

I see no reason to debate what every Christian, if he is a Christian, believes. The immortality of the soul is what the Bible is all about.

 

[GISMYS]

immortality of the soul =yes!!! but you must chose immortal in heaven or immortal in the lake of fire???

 

[Hentenza]

There's nothing to address. The Bible is clear that we are once saved always saved as long as our faith remains in Christ.

1 John 5
13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.

Nuff said.

 

[Setyoufree]

I see no reason to debate what every Christian, if he is a Christian, believes. The immortality of the soul is what the Bible is all about.

So if you don't believe in the immortality of the soul you are implying one is not Christian? That's judging!

A spirit of pharisaism has been coming upon many Christian denominations who claim to believe the gospel. They are self-satisfied. They have said,"We have the truth. There is no more light for us! We know it all."

If anyone is interested in exploring the Bible then go to http://www.christianforums.com/t7728132/

 

[Hentenza]

Because according to Baptists you can get saved and do whatever you want do from there and never lose your salvation. We as Mormons believe that is not the case.

Nah, you believe is a works salvation which takes Christ out of the equation. Are you good enough to save yourself?

 

[GISMYS]

Lol!!! You Cannot Fool God Or Play Games With God,god Knows Your Mind And Heart. If You Are Really Saved Believer You Will Want To Live To Please God And When You Fail And Sin You Will Confessand Repent!!!