Woman hiding with kids shoots intruder

[seeking Christ]

In this situation, that's only slightly more likely than he was going to rape and kill a woman and her child.

Why did he find them in the attic / crawlspace?

 

[Lilly Owl]

No. This perp took 5 well-placed rounds, and still lives. In many self-defense situations you will miss more often than you can connect, and encounter multiple assailants. The woman who refused to be a victim (good for her!) landed 5 out of 6 shots, and placed them well. Obviously having 3x that much ammo at your disposal without having to re-load is, de facto, NOT excessive.

Not excessive at all. There were 4 exit wounds.
Shoot till he stops moving! No apologies.
He trespassed in her home and hunted her and her daughters to the highest point seeking them out to commit his evil. He presumed they were easy marks. He found out they weren't.

The tragedy is, he lived. Now there's a hospital bill the tax payers will have to cover so he can be brought to health and stand trial. Hopefully there's a prisoner serving LwoP who will have a great fondness for mom's defending their children and this perp will get what he had coming. Better late than never.

 

[Lilly Owl]

Why did he find them in the attic / crawlspace?

Because he hunted for them in every part of the house until he found them.
That's a man that presumed he could take that kind of time. Especially in an age of cell phones. How would he think they didn't have a cell so as to call 911 on him and shut him down before he could hunt that far into their private property?
This man wasn't thinking about being found out. He was seeking his victims at leisure. Which can be inferred to mean he wasn't planning on leaving any living witnesses when he was through.

 

[seeking Christ]

Hopefully there's a prisoner serving LwoP who will have a great fondness for mom's defending their children and this perp will get what he had coming. Better late than never.

While emotion is understandable, what you'ere suggesting here (despite being common practice) is banned by our Constitution; cruel and unusual punishment. It is part of the problem and not the solution. Our penal system produces people that are better at being criminals, not better people.

I'm not sure that letting this perp die slowly while we laugh in his face would raise the value of our society either. Nor am I sure that he needed to be shot dead, to be put out of his misery. The crime was stopped. The intended victim was "equal" with the would-be assailant. Gun ownership has proved its worth, yet again.

These other problems mentioned are not as simple, and can't be fixed with arms.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Why did he find them in the attic / crawlspace?

That check had a lot of zeros in it??


On a related note, we can certainly love our enemies. We are, in fact, commanded by Jesus to do so. But we can acknowledge that sin does turn us into garbage and scum. People who have Jesus in their heart don't break and enter into someone's house and stalk them all the way to the attic crawlspace. Hopefully this guy learned a massive lesson and he'll repent.

 

[Blackguard_]

While I thought the same thing, "is the perp's intent known?" it seems he must've been after more than "just" theft.

Violating the sanctity of the home is crossing a Big Bright Line showing they have no regard for other people.

You simply can't trust they won't harm any occupants they encounter, even if they're the kind to take pains to insure no one is home, which this guy apparently didn't, and that says a lot about his willingness to deal with people he encounters, he doesn't seem to have cared much if the home was occupied or not.

That's a man that presumed he could take that kind of time. Especially in an age of cell phones. How would he think they didn't have a cell so as to call 911 on him and shut him down before he could hunt that far into their private property?

Where does it say he hunted them?

It sounds to me like he didn't know anyone was home and was just searching the house for valuables. Although like I said, I assume anyone breaking and entering into an occupied dwelling a threat and this guys apparently cavalier attitude to whether anyone was home also indicates that, and that he didn't bolt when he saw them.

 

[seeking Christ]

Where does it say he hunted them?

See my post, top of page. It'll be interesting if his motive comes out, which I think it should, for sentencing purposes. Was he there to rob, and simply found nothing of interest such that he had to access an attic crawlspace? Was he stalking a woman he found attractive?

I don't know, but the latter seems far more plausible.

 

[Lilly Owl]

While emotion is understandable, what you'ere suggesting here (despite being common practice) is banned by our Constitution; .

No it's not.
Prisoners kill each other every single day in American prisons.
Research Joseph Druce.
That's just one example.

 

[seeking Christ]

No it's not.
Prisoners kill each other every single day in American prisons.
Research Joseph Druce.
That's just one example.

It didn't seem you were talking about murder in prison, but rape in prison, as an extended form of punishment, which the guards know all about. Which is a regular occurrence, and only makes the whole situation worse. And is cruel and unusual punishment, and thereby against our Constitution.

 

[TerranceL]

You have no idea what his intent was. You don't know that he was going to kill them, or rape them, or physically harm them in any way.

Hahaha, yes because people with no ill intent always break into houses and hunt people.

 

[Lilly Owl]

Where does it say he hunted them?

Someone who's breaking into a house for valuables so as to grab and get asap, doesn't hunt through a house all the way to an attic (top of the house) crawlspace!
What does someone hope to find in an attic crawlspace? When the valuables, like TV's, stereo's, even ready cash in a purse which would show the intruder that at least a woman was in residence, are in the downstairs.
And the home being occupied by two little girls also would have signs of that as well.
But no, this 'sinner' hunts through the house and goes all the way to the top!

There was no report that a stash of goods were set by the back door of the home so he could grab his booty and get out before bullets interrupted his plan. The TV(s) weren't off their mounts and set by the doors or a window so as to grab them and leave after he looked for other easy pickings.
This guy made his way to the top most part of the house!
Why?

It sure wasn't to see if there was something more up there than what was downstairs to take, if it was a matter of a simple robbery. Which isn't actually simple at all. It's a violation of the sanctity of a family home.
All the way to the top!

He got what he came for.
Anytime someone breaks into a home, they're taking their lives in their hands.
And why? Because anytime someone breaks into an occupied home, those good people's lives are in that intruders hands.

When it's the intruder that comes out on a gurney or zipped into a body bag, that's good news! It insures there's one less predator out there preying on the rest of us.
When it's the other way around, it's tragic news. And it insures there's one more predator who murders his/her victims in the commission of the crime.
And that report inspires compassion, the mantra of the news audience; 'Aw, that's terrible!" And the dialog of the day.
"Well, if they'd have just had a home security system...." "Oh, if only they hadn't been unarmed!"
"What's the world coming to!?"



And when people don't suck up to criminals feeling love for their murderous personality that inhabits a body where no conscience dwells, we're made fun of and condescended to with phrases like, "Way to be Christ like!"
There was only one Christ. The rest of us are sinners! Bearing the name Christian, but not at all even close to being like Christ!

We do the best we can with what God gave us to work with.
God didn't kill the Devil! So, it's up to us to survive the onslaught of his spawn!

I'd rather send a Demon to Hell, than have a violent armed Demon send me to Heaven.
Simple as that!
Gun control is using both hands.
God bless the mother in this article. She loved herself and her kids more than she loved PC BS!

 

[Blackguard_]

Someone who's breaking into a house for valuables so as to grab and get asap, doesn't hunt through a house all the way to an attic (top of the house) crawlspace!

True, but not all burglaries are smash and grabs, some of them take their sweet time.
He may have simply been going through the house opening doors looking to see what the house had and looking for hiding places for valuables.

Or maybe he was a rapist, I guess we won't know unless he survives to be questioned.

 

[Lilly Owl]

True. What if's and suppositions are just that. He knows why he was there.
And now he knows what it cost him.
I wonder how many other victims he's chalked up to his behavior, if any, before this shut him down?

 

[muslimsoldier4life]

You have no idea what his intent was. You don't know that he was going to kill them, or rape them, or physically harm them in any way.

Breaking into a house with a crowbar, ensures that you have no intention of being there doing good. He got what he deserved, for being an idiot. SMH at idiots

 

[seeking Christ]

He got what he deserved, for being an idiot.

Not yet he hasn't! Said idiot will live to stand trial.

 

[marshlewis]

True, but not all burglaries are smash and grabs, some of them take their sweet time.
He may have simply been going through the house opening doors looking to see what the house had and looking for hiding places for valuables.

Or maybe he was a rapist, I guess we won't know unless he survives to be questioned.

Going in at 1pm meant he probably hoped to avoid the owners. Not finding anyone about in the house probably made him conclude he had succeeded and so he had a good look around. What he would have done if the woman was unarmed, possibly nothing but not worth considering if you were the woman. safety first.

 

[muslimsoldier4life]

Not yet he hasn't! Said idiot will live to stand trial.

Unfortunately.

 

[Skaloop]

No. This perp took 5 well-placed rounds, and still lives. In many self-defense situations you will miss more often than you can connect, and encounter multiple assailants. The woman who refused to be a victim (good for her!) landed 5 out of 6 shots, and placed them well. Obviously having 3x that much ammo at your disposal without having to re-load is, de facto, NOT excessive.

He took five shots and was no longer a threat. No more bullets were needed. Because what is the intent of using a firearm in self-defense? To stop your attacker, or to kill your attacker? I understand that the first may require the second, but in this case it did not. Why would any more rounds have been necessary?

 

[marshlewis]

He took five shots and was no longer a threat. No more bullets were needed. Because what is the intent of using a firearm in self-defense? To stop your attacker, or to kill your attacker? I understand that the first may require the second, but in this case it did not. Why would any more rounds have been necessary?

what if he had an accomplice. its only chance that she was right about the number of intruders.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

He's been arrested 6 times since 2008, I don't get why he was free. Maybe, if he survive this, he'll turn his life around. I'm betting he might get a year or less in prison, if he survive. But his injuries sound life threatening.

Channel 2’s Amy Napier Viteri learned from Chapman late Friday night that slater has been placed on a ventilator and suffers from punctured lungs, a punctured liver and a punctured stomach.
He said if Slater survives the night, doctors will try to operate in the morning to repair the damage.
Chapman said Slater has four exit wounds.