ETA: The answer to your question is that only an really ignorant person
Like any cornered "hater", you rely upon two basic 'debate tactics', if you can call it that. You insult the individual, and you cite yourself when asked for external references. This is why it's pointless in trying to have an *honest* 'conversation' with you. You are unwilling to look *outside* of yourself for any definition of terms, and you rely upon blind ignorance and blind bigotry in a debate! Not once in all the years you have personally harassed me on the internet have you actually sat down and read a book on the topic of plasma physics!
Not once in all these years have you produced an external reference to support your erroneous claims. Round and round you go on that denial go round, and where it stops only you actually know. When are you intending a read a book on plasma physics RC?
would ask for external references for a question whose answer is so obvious:
It's not obvious. It's a point in contention, by you alone apparently. I've handed you 8 authors by professionals that wrote about electrical discharges in plasma, 7 of them wrote about the topic of solar flare activity. 8 to 0, and your still citing yourself.
Electrical discharges like lightning need a dielectric medium to break down.
That is not the *only* type of 'electrical discharge' RC. Your ignorant bigotry is irrational nonsense! Get over it.
Plasma is a conductive (not dielectric medium).
So are lightning rods and they still experience 'electrical discharges' through them! A *discharge* is defined as a release of stored EM energy by Peratt. It's not *mandatory* that a dielectric breakdown occur by anyone except a retired IT guy that *refuses* to read a book on plasma physics, and who will not accept a *professional* description of an electrical discharge in plasma. No professional author required that nonsense RC, just one "hater" with a bigoted understanding of an 'electrical discharge'.
Thus electrical discharges like lightning in plasma are impossible.
So sayeth RC because he can't find an external source of information that actually agrees with him. It's really too bad that you know absolutely nothing about plasma physics but insist on discussing the topic anyway. When oh when will any author on solar physics outside of RC agree with RC? Apparently never!
Actually asking for papers about the subject would be idiotic because scientific papers are used to present new science not obvious facts.
The only idiotic behavior is your idiotic desire to get involved in a topic of discussion that you do not understand, and that you refuse to educate yourself on. I have no idea what motivates your irrational "hate", I'm simply tired of being victimized by it! What is your motive for posting here RC other than pure harassment at this point? Have you engaged in *any* other topics of conversation on this entire website, or am I the only real victim of your blind hate?
I have given you an external reference to a definition that generally makes electrical discharges impossible in plasma:
11th October 2011: Peratt's definition of electrical discharge
This is ordinary electrical discharge - he gives the example of lightning and aurora.
You have never read his book, and you therefore misunderstand a simple definition that *by definition* proves that you are wrong! By definition, electrical discharges are a release of stored EM energy *in PLASMA*! By definition they can and do occur in plasma as Dungey and many other authors demonstrate. Only the bigoted IT guy that has never read that book would think such a *definition* of an electrical discharge in plasma says exactly the opposite of what the definition actually says. You apparently cannot tell a *definition* from an *example*, and you are clearly wrong as Dungey and those other authors demonstrate. All of them, including Peratt agree that electrical discharges can occur *with or without* any breakdown of a dielectric, and they all agree that that electrical discharges occur in plasmas and conductors. That emotional need for a breakdown of a dielectric is yours and yours alone! All your nonsense about it can't occur in conductors is your nonsense too as each author demonstrates. None of them claimed that a breakdown was required, that a non conductor was required, or that a non plasma was required for an "electrical discharge'. You're the only person making that claim.
And an actual lie from you Michael
I have never claimed that 'electrical discharges' as defined by Dungey are impossible in flares. The high current densities ('Dungey's 'electrical discharge') caused by MR are a basic part of MR in every environment.
Actual electrical discharges (see above) cannot happen in plasma by definition.
The lies all come from you. You're splitting hairs, and bigotedly trying to stuff *your personal bigoted* definition of a discharge down my throat. When can I expect you to stop that irrational behavior? When can I expect you to read an actual textbook on plasma physics and/or stop harassing me personally with your blind hatred and ignorant bigotry?
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