Your own translation is very interesting:
I think you misunderstand, I only use translations for sake of convincing a very few folks who are ready to TRY Love, give up abusing others with sin [such as capitalism with its greed and lies]
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to Tartarus (tartaroo), delivering them to be bound in darkness where they await their judgment.
what you may not realise is that God judges justly and only on whether any life is perfectly Loving yet or not ...by His standard , not ours... the purpos of progressive salvation is to make life prgressively more impossible for the wicked so they see their mistake, because the pleasure of God is to turn the wicked around and He creates enough time in two universes only to do all His pleasure, turn around everyone, even Satan in the nd, prodigal son of God... Jesus confirms this , the whole creation will accept Jesus and thus Love, stop sinning against one another because it just makes life unbearable for everyone...
It must be terribly inconvenient to have to search through translations to find one that suits your belief system.
I od not need to personally, spirit baptism provides all Truth , but one cannot convey that ... ironic that any sinner can become a priests without spirit baptism and folks have faithin his deceptions by Satan simply because he dresses like the [failed] OT priesthood [LOL?] , yet because there is no uniform for Jesus and the saints, no-one believes them except saints ... ironic then , men elect to believe men who do not have the Truth, cannot know God or Jesus because they are still sinners, but disbelieve the saints because the saints are sure of what they say because God taught them Himself... quite amusing ,no? ... fortunately it matters not, God has no interest yet in men who just want to sin all this life , it is not time to deal with them yet , the wages of sin is death and they live grey lives not knowing what it is to Love without sin, how it gives life abundantly as Jesus said...
By your reasoning, the glorified saint will also have a body that will not endure the test of time.
bodies are CREATED , only the spirit is endless , and there is only one spirit , undivided, unchanging, without time [so without stream of consciousness]
Both saint and sinner are resurrected, strangertoo,
but did you notice that the saint is resurrected first , and there is no need to resurrect sinners except that they can become saints in the next life [and countless many do - Rev 7:9-10]
one will have eternal life because one is In Christ
but didn't you notice that IN THE END all accept Jesus as king , ALl are in Christ , all are perfected in Love [baptism of fire] , the last ones have baptism of fire n the lake , thenit is over, Jesus was the beginning, becomes the end for all.... he says so e.g. :-
Revelation 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
the other will have everlasting punishment, because they rejected life in and through Christ.
there is not enough time for everlasting punishment even if it could mean something rather than be meaningless and against masses of scripture and not even a valid translation, apart form accusing God of bizarrely unjust unloving lack of mercy on those who accept Jesus in the lake of fire... when God states over a hundred times that His mercy endures and also says that mercy rejoices AGAINST judgement... how could it be just or Loving to punish men who never even knew Christ existed for ever for their sins whilst many who sin all their lives in this world are 'let off' for just saying they believe the nonsense sinners teach about God ?
nay my friend, the LITERAL translations are in fact the better ones although a saint would never translate scripture anyway [has no need, he is taught directly by God and his task in life is mostly only to persuade a few folks to TRY Love so God can TEACH them Himself as Jesus promised [e.g, John 16:13] ... the danger of translations is demonstrated by the variety in them ... it makes all the difference between following God or Satan , just a single mistranslated word, and Satan knows that weakness in men , exploits it to first divide religion, then unite it in faith in him once the tribulations begin to bite and men start wondering if they might need saving ... easy salvation has been sold, even for money and for power of men, all down the ages... it reaches a climax soon now -Rev 13:3-4
Tell you what: I will come back to the response you gave to my post addressing your timeline of events, though it will be...drudgery.
well my friend you only reveal that you are complacent in your faith in sinners , but I am sorry, sinners CANNOT save you , they do not know God or Jesus, only fakes created by Satan's lies about God and Jesus... but seriously you should not find God's Truth a drudgery ... if you do not wish to discuss it openly then you are surely in the wrong place ...
so please understand that my only interest here is in persuading folks t Love , not sin in their lives, because that way they get baptised of the spirit and KNOW all the answers here from God directly ... the problem for all religious sinners is that they do not stop sinning first, but join this or that church of sinners and learn whatever Satan is selling that group...
so the smart thing to do is what scripture says, the first step is to stop sinning [water baptism with its commitment to depart from iniquity , the water splashing is just a dramatic symbolic ritual, saves no-one ] :-
2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them
that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ
depart from iniquity.
those that are his stop sinning , well worth reading and taking that in , why if one obeys Jesus and Loves folks it menas NOT abusing them with ANY sins against them... no sinner knows Jesus or God :-
1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not:
whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but
he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
1 John 3:8 He that
committeth sin is
of the devil;
1 John 4:8 He that loveth not
knoweth not God; for God is love.
so Love is the key to knowing ALL Truth of God from God [John 16:13], any sin prevents that -Ezekiel 18:24
why ? -Jesus explains :-
John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Whosoever committeth sin is the
servant of sin.
sin is mostly habitual , it becomes part of one's life to live in denial of conscience, heart of Love, spirit, and mind... all of which told one when one sinned, but got DENIED ... and so denial got easier and facing the shame of sin in repentance got harder...
but the ONLY wages of sin is death to remove sin [Rom 6:7] , far easier than grace, but one still has to perfect Love later ,and one has to put up with more delay in knowing Jesus and God truly insead of the false images in religion of sinners under Satan...
The absolute butchering and hodge-podge pasting of the sequence of events is easily enough addressed, but, unless one will recognize they have destroyed context, one will continue in this pattern.
it is indeed impossible to include context i all the quotes here, one can only hope folks will read every word of God for themselves BEFORE posting here [but it is in vain one hopes that]
since you have made errors of translation, I would suggest dealing with one point at a time... there is no rush ...
