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God Proven to Exist According to Mainstream Physics

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God has been proven to exist based upon the most reserved view of the known laws of physics. For much more on that, see my below article, which details physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE) correctly describing and unifying all the forces in physics. The Omega Point cosmology demonstrates that the known laws of physics (viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics) require that the universe end in the Omega Point: the final cosmological singularity and state of infinite informational capacity having all the unique properties traditionally claimed for God, and of which is a different aspect of the Big Bang initial singularity, i.e., the first cause.

James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708; PDF, 1741424 bytes, MD5: 8f7b21ee1e236fc2fbb22b4ee4bbd4cb. http://ssrn.com/abstract=1974708 , http://archive.org/details/ThePhysicsOfGodAndTheQuantumGravityTheoryOfEverything , http://theophysics.host56.com/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf , http://alphaomegapoint.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/redford-physics-of-god.pdf , http://sites.google.com/site/physicotheism/home/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf

Below is the abstract to my above article:

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ABSTRACT: Analysis is given of the Omega Point cosmology, an extensively peer-reviewed proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) published in leading physics journals by professor of physics and mathematics Frank J. Tipler, which demonstrates that in order for the known laws of physics to be mutually consistent, the universe must diverge to infinite computational power as it collapses into a final cosmological singularity, termed the Omega Point. The theorem is an intrinsic component of the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE) describing and unifying all the forces in physics, of which itself is also required by the known physical laws. With infinite computational resources, the dead can be resurrected--never to die again--via perfect computer emulation of the multiverse from its start at the Big Bang. Miracles are also physically allowed via electroweak quantum tunneling controlled by the Omega Point cosmological singularity. The Omega Point is a different aspect of the Big Bang cosmological singularity--the first cause--and the Omega Point has all the haecceities claimed for God in the traditional religions.

From this analysis, conclusions are drawn regarding the social, ethical, economic and political implications of the Omega Point cosmology.
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Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology has been peer-reviewed and published in a number of the world's leading physics and science journals.[1] Even NASA itself has peer-reviewed his Omega Point Theorem and found it correct according to the known laws of physics (see below). No refutation of it exists within the peer-reviewed scientific literature, or anywhere else for that matter.

Below are some of the peer-reviewed papers in physics and science journals and proceedings wherein Prof. Tipler has published his Omega Point cosmology:

* Frank J. Tipler, "Cosmological Limits on Computation", International Journal of Theoretical Physics, Vol. 25, No. 6 (June 1986), pp. 617-661, doi:10.1007/BF00670475, bibcode: 1986IJTP...25..617T. (First paper on the Omega Point cosmology.) http://webcitation.org/64KHgOccs , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/09/29/tipler-cosmological-limits-on-computation/

* Frank J. Tipler, "The Sensorium of God: Newton and Absolute Space", bibcode: 1988nnds.conf..215T, in G[eorge]. V. Coyne, M[ichal]. Heller and J[ozef]. Zycinski (Eds.), "Message" by Franciszek Macharski, Newton and the New Direction in Science: Proceedings of the Cracow Conference, 25 to 28 May 1987 (Vatican City: Specola Vaticana, 1988), pp. 215-228, LCCN 88162460, bibcode: 1988nnds.conf.....C. http://webcitation.org/69Vb0JF1W , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/09/29/tipler-sensorium-of-god/

* Frank J. Tipler, "The Omega Point Theory: A Model of an Evolving God", in Robert J. Russell, William R. Stoeger and George V. Coyne (Eds.), message by John Paul II, Physics, Philosophy, and Theology: A Common Quest for Understanding (Vatican City: Vatican Observatory, 2nd ed., 2005; orig. pub. 1988), pp. 313-331, ISBN 0268015775, LCCN 89203331, bibcode: 1988pptc.book.....R. http://webcitation.org/69VaKG2nd , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/09/29/tipler-omega-point-theory/

* Frank J. Tipler, "The Anthropic Principle: A Primer for Philosophers", in Arthur Fine and Jarrett Leplin (Eds.), PSA 1988: Proceedings of the 1988 Biennial Meeting of the Philosophy of Science Association, Volume Two: Symposia and Invited Papers (East Lansing, Mich.: Philosophy of Science Association, 1989), pp. 27-48, ISBN 091758628X. http://webcitation.org/69VarCM3I , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/09/29/tipler-anthropic-principle/

* Frank J. Tipler, "The Omega Point as Eschaton: Answers to Pannenberg's Questions for Scientists", Zygon: Journal of Religion & Science, Vol. 24, No. 2 (June 1989), pp. 217-253, doi:10.1111/j.1467-9744.1989.tb01112.x. Republished as Chapter 7: "The Omega Point as Eschaton: Answers to Pannenberg's Questions to Scientists" in Carol Rausch Albright and Joel Haugen (Eds.), Beginning with the End: God, Science, and Wolfhart Pannenberg (Chicago, Ill.: Open Court Publishing Company, 1997), pp. 156-194, ISBN 0812693256, LCCN 97000114. http://webcitation.org/5nY0aytpz , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/09/29/tipler-omega-point-as-eschaton/

* Frank J. Tipler, "The ultimate fate of life in universes which undergo inflation", Physics Letters B, Vol. 286, Nos. 1-2 (July 23, 1992), pp. 36-43, doi:10.1016/0370-2693(92)90155-W, bibcode: 1992PhLB..286...36T. http://webcitation.org/64Uskd785 , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/09/29/tipler-life-in-universes-which-undergo-inflation/

* Frank J. Tipler, "A New Condition Implying the Existence of a Constant Mean Curvature Foliation", bibcode: 1993dgr2.conf..306T, in B[ei]. L. Hu and T[ed]. A. Jacobson (Eds.), Directions in General Relativity: Proceedings of the 1993 International Symposium, Maryland, Volume 2: Papers in Honor of Dieter Brill (Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press, 1993), pp. 306-315, ISBN 0521452678, bibcode: 1993dgr2.conf.....H. http://webcitation.org/5qbXJZiX5 , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/09/29/tipler-constant-mean-curvature-foliation/

* Frank J. Tipler, "Ultrarelativistic Rockets and the Ultimate Future of the Universe", NASA Breakthrough Propulsion Physics Workshop Proceedings, National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Jan. 1999, pp. 111-119; an invited paper in the proceedings of a conference held at and sponsored by NASA Lewis Research Center, Cleveland, Ohio, Aug. 12-14, 1997; doi:2060/19990023204. Document ID: 19990023204. Report Number: E-11429; NAS 1.55:208694; NASA/CP-1999-208694. http://webcitation.org/5zPq69I0O , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/09/29/tipler-ultrarelativistic-rockets/ Full proceedings volume: http://webcitation.org/69zAxm0sT

* Frank J. Tipler, "There Are No Limits To The Open Society", Critical Rationalist, Vol. 3, No. 2 (Sept. 23, 1998). http://webcitation.org/5sFYkHgSS , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/09/29/tipler-no-limits-to-the-open-society/

* Frank J. Tipler, Jessica Graber, Matthew McGinley, Joshua Nichols-Barrer and Christopher Staecker, "Closed Universes With Black Holes But No Event Horizons As a Solution to the Black Hole Information Problem", arXiv:gr-qc/0003082, Mar. 20, 2000. http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0003082 Published in Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, Vol. 379, No. 2 (Aug. 2007), pp. 629-640, doi:10.1111/j.1365-2966.2007.11895.x, bibcode: 2007MNRAS.379..629T. http://webcitation.org/5vQ3M8uxB , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/09/29/tipler-et-al-closed-universes-with-no-event-horizons/

* Frank J. Tipler, "The Ultimate Future of the Universe, Black Hole Event Horizon Topologies, Holography, and the Value of the Cosmological Constant", arXiv:astro-ph/0104011, Apr. 1, 2001. http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0104011 Published in J. Craig Wheeler and Hugo Martel (Eds.), Relativistic Astrophysics: 20th Texas Symposium, Austin, Texas, 10-15 December 2000 (Melville, NY: American Institute of Physics, 2001), pp. 769-772, ISBN 0735400261, LCCN 2001094694, which is AIP Conference Proceedings, Vol. 586 (Oct. 15, 2001), doi:10.1063/1.1419654, bibcode: 2001AIPC..586.....W.

* Frank J. Tipler, "Intelligent life in cosmology", International Journal of Astrobiology, Vol. 2, No. 2 (Apr. 2003), pp. 141-148, doi:10.1017/S1473550403001526, bibcode: 2003IJAsB...2..141T. http://webcitation.org/5o9QHKGuW , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/09/29/tipler-intelligent-life-in-cosmology/ Also at arXiv:0704.0058, Mar. 31, 2007. http://arxiv.org/abs/0704.0058

* F. J. Tipler, "The structure of the world from pure numbers", Reports on Progress in Physics, Vol. 68, No. 4 (Apr. 2005), pp. 897-964, doi:10.1088/0034-4885/68/4/R04, bibcode: 2005RPPh...68..897T. http://www.math.tulane.edu/~tipler/theoryofeverything.pdf Also released as "Feynman-Weinberg Quantum Gravity and the Extended Standard Model as a Theory of Everything", arXiv:0704.3276, Apr. 24, 2007. http://arxiv.org/abs/0704.3276

* Frank J. Tipler, "Inevitable Existence and Inevitable Goodness of the Singularity", Journal of Consciousness Studies, Vol. 19, Nos. 1-2 (2012), pp. 183-193. http://webcitation.org/69JEi5wHp , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/09/29/tipler-existence-and-goodness-of-the-singularity/

Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, in which the above August 2007 paper was published, is one of the world's leading peer-reviewed astrophysics journals.

Prof. Tipler's paper "Ultrarelativistic Rockets and the Ultimate Future of the Universe" was an invited paper for a conference held at and sponsored by NASA Lewis Research Center, so NASA itself has peer-reviewed Tipler's Omega Point Theorem (peer-review is a standard process for published proceedings papers; and again, Tipler's said paper was an *invited* paper by NASA, as opposed to what are called "poster papers").

Zygon is the world's leading peer-reviewed academic journal on science and religion.

Out of 50 articles, Prof. Tipler's 2005 Reports on Progress in Physics paper--which presents the Omega Point/Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE)--was selected as one of 12 for the "Highlights of 2005" accolade as "the very best articles published in Reports on Progress in Physics in 2005 [Vol. 68]. Articles were selected by the Editorial Board for their outstanding reviews of the field. They all received the highest praise from our international referees and a high number of downloads from the journal Website." (See Richard Palmer, Publisher, "Highlights of 2005", Reports on Progress in Physics website. http://webcitation.org/5o9VkK3eE , http://archive.is/pKD3y )

Reports on Progress in Physics is the leading journal of the Institute of Physics, Britain's main professional body for physicists. Further, Reports on Progress in Physics has a higher impact factor (according to Journal Citation Reports) than Physical Review Letters, which is the most prestigious American physics journal (one, incidently, which Prof. Tipler has been published in more than once). A journal's impact factor reflects the importance the science community places in that journal in the sense of actually citing its papers in their own papers.

For much more on these matters, see my above-cited article "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything" in addition to my below website:

Theophysics: God Is the Ultimate Physicist. http://theophysics.host56.com , http://theophysics.ifastnet.com , http://theophysics.freevar.com

The only way to avoid the Omega Point cosmology is to reject the known laws of physics (i.e., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), and hence to reject empirical science: as these physical laws have been confirmed by every experiment to date. That is, there exists no rational reason for thinking that the Omega Point cosmology is incorrect, and indeed, one must engage in extreme irrationality in order to argue against the Omega Point cosmology.

Additionally, we now have the quantum gravity Theory of Everything (TOE) required by the known laws of physics and that correctly describes and unifies all the forces in physics: of which inherently produces the Omega Point cosmology. So here we have an additional high degree of assurance that the Omega Point cosmology is correct.

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1. While there is a lot that gets published in physics journals that is anti-reality and nonphysical (such as String Theory, which violates the known laws of physics and has no experimental support whatsoever), the reason such things are allowed to pass the peer-review process is because the paradigm of assumptions which such papers are speaking to has been made known, and within their operating paradigm none of the referees could find anything crucially wrong with said papers. That is, the paradigm itself may have nothing to do with reality, but the peer-reviewers could find nothing fundamentally wrong with such papers within the operating assumptions of that paradigm. Whereas, e.g., the operating paradigm of Prof. Tipler's 2005 Reports on Progress in Physics paper and his other papers on the Omega Point Theorem is the known laws of physics, i.e., our actual physical reality which has been repeatedly confirmed by every experiment conducted to date. So the professional physicists charged with refereeing these papers could find nothing fundamentally wrong with them within their operating paradigm, i.e., the known laws of physics.

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In the below resource are six sections which contain very informative videos of Prof. Tipler explaining the Omega Point cosmology and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model TOE. The seventh section therein contains an audio interview of Tipler.

A number of these videos are not otherwise online. I also provide some helpful notes and commentary for some of these videos.

James Redford, "Video of Profs. Frank Tipler and Lawrence Krauss's Debate at Caltech: Can Physics Prove God and Christianity?", alt.sci.astro, Message-ID: jghev8tcbv02b6vn3uiq8jmelp7jijluqk@4ax.com , 30 Jul 2013 00:51:55 -0400. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.sci.astro/KQWt4KcpMVo , http://archive.is/a04w9 , http://webcitation.org/6IUTAMEyS

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"God Proven to Exist According to Mainstream Physics", JamesRRedford, August 18, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjfZINt8Rdg
 
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I tried accessing the first Tippler paper, but the pdf is corrupted, and the webcite query returns a blank page.

I'll say this though, describing the properties of the Omega point, and then assigning said properties to God, does not constitute any kind of proof.
 
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I tried accessing the first Tippler paper, but the pdf is corrupted, and the webcite query returns a blank page.

Hi, Blayz. Keep trying. It's working on my end. Below is the file information:

Tipler-Cosmological-Limits-on-Computation.pdf
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MD5: e1b8c5ef0b82ddc148e98cf1c9fd48bb

I'll say this though, describing the properties of the Omega point, and then assigning said properties to God, does not constitute any kind of proof.

Actually, it does precisely that, because the Omega Point has all the unique properties (i.e., haecceities) claimed for God in the traditional religions. Thus, by definition the Omega Point is God. My above-cited article goes into the details of this.
 
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Hi, Blayz. Keep trying.

Mate, you posted a wall o' text with a gazillion links. I have other things to be doing with my life. No more clicky for me.

Actually, it does precisely that

Actually it doesn't.

because the Omega Point has all the unique properties (i.e., haecceities) claimed for God in the traditional religions.

And? I could invent a deity right now that has those properties. Doesn't make him/her/it real.

Thus, by definition the Omega Point is God.

Nope, at best it's by a weak association.

My above-cited article goes into the details of this.

See response #1.
 
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Wait wait wait...

The video posted says that this proof has been made by a physicist who has unified all the forces of quantum physics?

You're telling me that gravity has been unified with the other three forces?

lol, if that had happened, I'm pretty sure we'd have heard about it.
 
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I'm not actually going to oppose this. I'm sceptical if Frank claims to have come up with a unified theory which has been proven, since that is something scientists have searched for for a long time. My guess is that it hasn't been proven yet if it has been around for this long and not yet put into mainstream scientific literature.

However, since I am not a physicist I can't judge the paper. But James, if you can convince people that this is proof of God's existence and that God is actually some infinitely dense, computationally infinite with infinite knowledge in a singularity rather than the bogus inconsistent contradictory God of the Bible, then go right ahead. It would end a lot of problems in the world, and if you want to call that God, I have no problem at all with it.

If you want to then take this and refer to a specific God, such as the God of the Bible, or the God of the Quran, then I have a problem and can argue against that. Is this what you believe? Or do you simply define the "omega point" as God?
 
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I'm trying to get around some of these concepts where you seemingly introduce a form of "intelligence" to physics. Physics knows no intelligence, so I don't know where that assertion is coming from.

Anyway, something I did pick up on:

"The Omega Point is a different aspect of the Big Bang cosmological singularity--the first cause--and the Omega Point has all the haecceities claimed for God in the traditional religions."

So from your abstract, which is an accurate summary of your study, you say the "omega point" is a different aspect of the singularity of the big bang. You say it was the first cause. However, after this singularity expanded, my limited knowledge in this area would suggest that this "omega point" would no longer exist? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that indicate that God no longer exists today?

And furthermore, wouldn't this indicate that God was no more than a first cause?
 
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I'm trying to get around some of these concepts where you seemingly introduce a form of "intelligence" to physics. Physics knows no intelligence, so I don't know where that assertion is coming from.

Since observation in physics would not be possible without intelligence, and intelligent beings exist on Earth, I'm afraid I'm inclined to disagree with your assessment.

Anyway, something I did pick up on:

"The Omega Point is a different aspect of the Big Bang cosmological singularity--the first cause--and the Omega Point has all the haecceities claimed for God in the traditional religions."

So from your abstract, which is an accurate summary of your study, you say the "omega point" is a different aspect of the singularity of the big bang. You say it was the first cause. However, after this singularity expanded, my limited knowledge in this area would suggest that this "omega point" would no longer exist? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that indicate that God no longer exists today?

And furthermore, wouldn't this indicate that God was no more than a first cause?

Great question! One could suggest God is simply 'larger' now I suppose.
 
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Since observation in physics would not be possible without intelligence, and intelligent beings exist on Earth, I'm afraid I'm inclined to disagree with your assessment.

I think I'll refine what I said. Of course the abstract concept of physics requires intelligence, as it was intelligence which created physics in order to describe what we observe.

But what is actually happening; what physics describes, is not intelligent. A conglomerate of particles knows no intelligence. So when James suggests that this singularity pertains many attributes of God's in modern religion(one of the main ones which I assume is intelligence), I don't understand what he means by a singularity being intelligent.
 
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isn't this just an exact repost of something you posted a year or two back??

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http://www.christianforums.com/t7617446/

the OP from that thread, from Dec last year.

The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything
Below is an article that I recently wrote. It concerns the Omega Point cosmology by physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler, which is a proof of God's existence based upon the most reserved view of the known laws of physics (i.e., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics). For anyone who has ever wondered about such questions as what the meaning of life is, what the purpose of their own life is, whether there is life after death, whether God exists, what the future holds for humanity, and why anything exists at all as opposed to nothingness, then this article answers all of those questions using the known laws of physics.

This article further provides an examination of the globalist political power-elite: history is given on their organizational structure and their methods of accumulating power; and analysis is given on where they're attempting to take the world, i.e., their self-termed New World Order world government and world religion.

The article furnishes documentation on what the globalist oligarchy's ultimate goal is. This ultimate goal of theirs most popularly goes by the name of transhumanism: immortality through technology. However, I explain in the article that the coming radical life-extension technologies create a fundamental dilemma for the oligarchs, which is why they must dominate world society before such technology becomes a reality. The details of that dilemma are explained in Sec. 8.2.2: "The Mark of the Beast" of the article.

Thus, this article explains to people what is to occur and why it is to occur, so that they will not be in ignorance as to the events that are to unfold.

Below one can download the article for free. I encourage everyone to generously share this article with others. By all means, please save it to your hard-drive and give others copies of it. Also, feel free to share the text of this post. The article is in PDF format.

James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), September 10, 2012 (orig. pub. December 19, 2011), 186 pp. http://dx.doi.org/10.2139/ssrn.1974708 , http://ssrn.com/abstract=1974708

Below is the abstract to my above article:

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ABSTRACT: Analysis is given of the Omega Point cosmology, an extensively peer-reviewed proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) published in leading physics journals by professor of physics and mathematics Frank J. Tipler, which demonstrates that in order for the known laws of physics to be mutually consistent, the universe must diverge to infinite computational power as it collapses into a final cosmological singularity, termed the Omega Point. The theorem is an intrinsic component of the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE) describing and unifying all the forces in physics, of which itself is also required by the known physical laws. With infinite computational resources, the dead can be resurrected--never to die again--via perfect computer emulation of the multiverse from its start at the Big Bang. Miracles are also physically allowed via electroweak quantum tunneling controlled by the Omega Point cosmological singularity. The Omega Point is a different aspect of the Big Bang cosmological singularity--the first cause--and the Omega Point has all the haecceities claimed for God in the traditional religions.

From this analysis, conclusions are drawn regarding the social, ethical, economic and political implications of the Omega Point cosmology.
""

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Note that the above publication date, the total page count, the file byte size, and the MD5 checksum are subject to change with newer versions of the article, if I were to release such.

The URLs to my Theophysics websites should contain the latest version of the article. With the WebCite URLs ( http://www.webcitation.org ), one can look to see if there is a newer version of this article on the drop-down menu containing the date. Also look at the postings in this forum to see if I have published updated URLs to newer versions of this article, assuming I am unable to update this post.
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Author of "Jesus Is an Anarchist", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), December 4, 2011 (originally published December 19, 2001).

Theophysics: God Is the Ultimate Physicist (a website with information on Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point Theory and the quantum gravity Theory of Everything [TOE]).
 
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I didn't click on all of that, I should have, but I didn't (and I may yet).

But (and I know this is a stretch) can someone summarize what all of that is please? Like if you were going to explain it to a junior high school student and you only had 15 minutes.
 
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I didn't click on all of that, I should have, but I didn't (and I may yet).

But (and I know this is a stretch) can someone summarize what all of that is please? Like if you were going to explain it to a junior high school student and you only had 15 minutes.
In that case, I'd just be done with "James Redford is a crank. Just move along. Here's a physics textbook. Look, it's got pretty pictures.":wave:
 
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Well, so much for making it easy to understand. Thank for your help though, you were a big one ;) . [/end sarcasm]

I'll try and post something more coherent on this after I've done some research on it I think.

(Just saying, but maybe this is why people treat science like it's voodoo.)
 
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Over on Trans Dimensional Unified Theory Physics Group on Linked in I asked the following question:


Dennis Tate • Hi Allen, Hi Graham: Where is intelligent life more likely to originate, in fundamental energy or in our rather complex four dimensional space-time continuum?

Grand Unified Theory: Wave Theory and Life


"The essential matter from which our universe is created is energetic matter. It behaves like living matter, creating every known entity, including living objects and even thought (which occurs through energetic matter–wave interaction). The essential structure of energetic matter is high-energy (concentrated energetic matter) electro-magnetic waves (picture above). This simple structure is the basis of everything: every energetic formation and the universe. In picture 2, we see that the DNA (double helix) of all living formations has the same structure as waves: two loops of the same energetic matter, behaving according to the same rules." (Dr. Chaim Tejman)

Dennis Tate • As you can probably guess I am convinced that the first intelligent life form probably came into being in fundamental energy. This life form, in my opinion, has probably evolved much as we humans start out as a single cell, (or should I say two cells), those cells replicate and begin to become more and more complex.

I believe that the Law of Probability, combined with the Anthropic Principle, combined with String Theory and the Cyclic Model of the Universe indicate that it is highly unlikely that we humans are the most powerful, most intelligent or most inventive life form in the universe!

Even the existence of two distinct sexes seems to have a basis in theoretical physics.

grandunifiedtheory.org.il/gender/g1.htm



"Pulling and gravitation, which resemble basic feminine traits, are the dominant properties of the magnetic loop. Consequently, magnetic loops have a capacity for storing energy and act to maintain the structural integrity of the entire wave formation. The electronic/energetic loop consists of expanding properties that disperse energetic matter that “disappears” into space. This is synonymous with masculine characteristics." (Dr. Chaim Tejman)

I got back three truly brilliant answers that have astonishing implications:



Allen L Roland • See Teilhard's Law of Complexity-Consciousness ~ All life forms driven by the universal urge to unite and eventually becoming more complex and also more conscious. An evolutionary process with which we all participate as co-creators.

Graham Partis • RE: Where is intelligent life more likely to originate, in fundamental energy or in our rather complex four dimensional space-time continuum?

I would say it will evolve everywhere it can, and our star Sol is likely as intelligent as we are in its own way.

George Ducas • what is real is shared, and thus that includes everything. there is nothing that isnt alive. So the question of inatimate matter would be, to what form of life does it belong? If we conisder that all that is real to be states of conciousness, then what is real as being shared is a conciousness into which we all transcend and participate. The universe is the conciousness of the first cause, a pattern into which we all imitate and participate. The idea of object is an illusion, as would the idea of the universe as an exsternally created object, of and for itself. the uiverse is simultaneously simple and complex, with both ends of the spectrum assessed simlutaneously. experince and free will is only possible by transcedence and as such is a choice. evoltion and regressing is a matter of choice. the only thing that is natural is by choice.
 
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