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Christians living together before marriage... but separate rooms/bathrooms?

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Hi all, I would love other's opinions on this :)

My fiancé and I are both 24 years old and are recently engaged (we have been together for 6 years). We have also recently bought a house, and were planning on having tenants live there until we were married and we would move in together. However, our current tenants and left and the rental market in our area is so low at the moment that rental payments from tenants will NOT cover our mortgage repayments, plus we are BOTH paying rent at our current houses. So unless we want to jeopardise our financial security, it makes sense that we both move into the house now so that we are only paying mortgage repayments and don't have to pay mortgage repayments AND rent.

The problem is that we are not married, yet we will be living together. We have decided that we will have separate bedrooms and bathrooms in the house until we are married. We cannot move the wedding forward because a lot of our family live overseas and travel arrangements cannot be changed. We are both committed to God and our faith and are both comfortable with this decision and know that we will be able to control ourselves. I have also consulted the Bible and found scriptures about marriage, and my interpretation is that there is nothing about living together, only about sinning by having sexual relations. If we are living together but NOT tempted by sex, is there a problem? Here is the scripture I found that I thought might relate to my circumstance:

Proverbs 14:12 – “There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.”

Ecclesiastes 3:1,5 – “There is a time for everything and a season for every activity under heaven … a time to embrace and a time to refrain.”

1 Corinthians 6:18 – “Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.”

1 Corinthians 7:8-9 – “Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.”

Galatians 6:7-8 – “Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.”

1 Thessalonians 4:3-6 – “It is God’s will that you should … avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control his own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the heathen, who do not know God; and that in this matter no one should wrong his brother or take advantage of him.”

Hebrews 13:4 – “Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.”


I honestly do not believe that my fiancé and I will be lead into temptation, as we have spent lots of time together in the 6 years that we have known each other and holidayed many times, we have always gone to bed separately and never been lead astray from our beliefs. I feel this is the time to "embrace" the situation and go with what I think is right - which is moving into the house.

I still find myself being judged for this decision, though. What do you think?
 

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I honestly do not believe that my fiancé and I will be lead into temptation, as we have spent lots of time together in the 6 years that we have known each other and holidayed many times, we have always gone to bed separately and never been lead astray from our beliefs. I feel this is the time to "embrace" the situation and go with what I think is right - which is moving into the house.

I still find myself being judged for this decision, though. What do you think?

I am wondering what you mean by judged.

Also, a lot of those verses are out of context.


Nobody is judged by God on the basis of appearances. God judges on what is in the heart behind the actions and the words, and if God gives power to saints to judge it is still by God that they judge.


If you are overly challenging people, put it to God to settle their hearts, and if you believe, God can do this.

If you do feel there are physical passion issues, then go get married at a court of law and reserve the ceremony for later when you have the funds.
 
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Well, you could just have a very informal wedding at a minimal cost if you feel too convicted about it and then have the formal wedding ceremony later with your family. Therefore, you would have a legal document saying you are married, and you will never have to doubt your living situation.
 
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I am wondering what you mean by judged.

Also, a lot of those verses are out of context.


Nobody is judged by God on the basis of appearances. God judges on what is in the heart behind the actions and the words, and if God gives power to saints to judge it is still by God that they judge.


If you are overly challenging people, put it to God to settle their hearts, and if you believe, God can do this.

If you do feel there are physical passion issues, then go get married at a court of law and reserve the ceremony for later when you have the funds.

Thanks so much for your reply :) I should have clarified - I meant judged by other people and other Christians.

Our immediate family who are Christian are content with our decision, and believe we are doing the right thing. But other people who don't know us as well seem to be challenged by our decision.

I am considering just going to court and getting married legally and then having the ceremony later, when our families can attend, however I guess this does make it less special.

Well, you could just have a very informal wedding at a minimal cost if you feel too convicted about it and then have the formal wedding ceremony later with your family. Therefore, you would have a legal document saying you are married, and you will never have to doubt your living situation.

We could indeed do this and we are considering it. But as a question in itself - is it wrong to be living together before being married if we are still true to God and our beliefs?

Why not? :confused: Normally that comes before buying a house together.

We bought a house when the market was extremely low - we didn't want to wait and am glad we didn't because prices and now sky-rocketed. We didn't plan on moving in straight away - it was going to be an investment property. However, now circumstances have changed. I don't see how buying a house HAS to come after marriage if you are not planning on living in it. It was just a financial decision we made. However, now that the financial situation is becoming dire we think we may have to move in to lessen costs :(
 
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We could indeed do this and we are considering it. But as a question in itself - is it wrong to be living together before being married if we are still true to God and our beliefs?

This is what I would do for many reasons. 1) It would completely put to rest any gossip before it started. Rumors suck. 2) It would keep you both above reproach form anyone. Even if it isn't "wrong", there are many who believe living together is wrong. And we are called to be above reproach. 3) It would help quench any doubts you may have in the future. This can lead to a less stressful marriage, less controversy, and less doubting truth. Even if living together isn't wrong, it may not be the best option.

Hope you both have a successful and joyful marriage!
 
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This is what I would do for many reasons. 1) It would completely put to rest any gossip before it started. Rumors suck. 2) It would keep you both above reproach form anyone. Even if it isn't "wrong", there are many who believe living together is wrong. And we are called to be above reproach. 3) It would help quench any doubts you may have in the future. This can lead to a less stressful marriage, less controversy, and less doubting truth. Even if living together isn't wrong, it may not be the best option.

Hope you both have a successful and joyful marriage!

Thanks again for your reply :)

I still feel not right about getting married "officially" and then having the ceremony after when our family can attend. The reason being that I would feel that I was getting married earlier PURELY to satisfy others' opinions. I know that scripture shows us that we should not worry about what other's think and exterior "appearances" and rumours because the Lord sees our hearts, not how we are "appearing:"

1 Samuel 16:7, "But the LORD said to Samuel, 'Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the LORD does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.'"

Matthew 10:19, "But when they deliver you up, do not worry about how or what you should speak. For it will be given to you in that hour what you should speak."

I really wanted to wait for our family to be able to witness our wedding and declaration in front of God :(
 
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Thanks again for your reply :)

I still feel not right about getting married "officially" and then having the ceremony after when our family can attend. The reason being that I would feel that I was getting married earlier PURELY to satisfy others' opinions. I know that scripture shows us that we should not worry about what other's think and exterior "appearances" and rumours because the Lord sees our hearts, not how we are "appearing:"

1 Samuel 16:7, "But the LORD said to Samuel, 'Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the LORD does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.'"

Matthew 10:19, "But when they deliver you up, do not worry about how or what you should speak. For it will be given to you in that hour what you should speak."

I really wanted to wait for our family to be able to witness our wedding and declaration in front of God :(

One could make the argument that back in Jewish culture, the husband and wife lived together for a year before actually marrying(and they were not allowed to have sexual intercourse). This is why Joseph was so hesitant at Mary having a kid because people would think they had done it too early.

The only thing I am apprehensive about is that you will will will will will be tempted sexually. I don't know how deeply rooted you two are rooted in God, so that is why I am suggesting to stay separated until married, or get the legality done with early and celebrate later. But what you guys do is what you guys do, and God loves you nonetheless. Just make sure you will not regret your decision later on in life.
 
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The only thing I am apprehensive about is that you will will will will will be tempted sexually. I don't know how deeply rooted you two are rooted in God, so that is why I am suggesting to stay separated until married, or get the legality done with early and celebrate later. But what you guys do is what you guys do, and God loves you nonetheless. Just make sure you will not regret your decision later on in life.

Why do you think that we WILL be tempted sexually? I have stayed over at his house many times (sleeping in a separate room) and we have also travelled together (in separate rooms) and we have not been tempted sexually before, because we both know that we have made the decision to wait until marriage. I don't understand why people assume if you are under the same roof, you will be tempted sexually. If you are sleeping in the same bedroom etc, I can understand. But we will have our own bedrooms and bathrooms. Just curious on why you think this. Thanks! :)
 
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Once again, I do not know the extent of your faith, so I was trying to be as generic as possible. I know for me that the temptation would be too much, so I am coming from my perspective. It may not be this way between you two, it is just the norm.

And while you may not have been tempted then or now, it does not mean you won't in the future, especially if it is for an extended period of time. I am not trying to predict the future, but it is more than likely to happen at some point, so if you go through with this, be prepared. I'm an optimistic realist, so I hope for the best, and plan for the worst. :D
 
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i really enjoy cookies, but i'm trying to loose some weight. i find that it is easier to not go down the cookie aisle at the grocery store than it is to pass by the cookie jar at the house; if i don't have any cookies readily available, it's a lot easier not to yield to the temptation to eat cookies :)
 
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Once again, I do not know the extent of your faith, so I was trying to be as generic as possible. I know for me that the temptation would be too much, so I am coming from my perspective. It may not be this way between you two, it is just the norm.

And while you may not have been tempted then or now, it does not mean you won't in the future, especially if it is for an extended period of time. I am not trying to predict the future, but it is more than likely to happen at some point, so if you go through with this, be prepared. I'm an optimistic realist, so I hope for the best, and plan for the worst. :D

Thank you for your reply, and very good point indeed! :)

Thanks everyone so far for the responses.
 
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i really enjoy cookies, but i'm trying to loose some wight. i find that it is easier to not go down the cookie aisle at the grocery store than it is to pass by the cookie jar at the house; if i don't have any cookies readily available, it's a lot easier not to yield to the temptation to eat cookies :)

But what if you have been refraining from eating cookies for SUCH a long time, that you have become quite used to your new diet and you are quite comfortable with the time frame you have set for yourself in which you can start eating cookies. If you have been lingering around the cookie aisle but have still not been tempted to eat cookies for 6 years, is it safe to say that you think you will be able to control yourself?
 
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From what I am reading from your posts, just do it. Move into the house and do your guys' plan. You both seem strong enough to control yourselves and behave. ;)

Just remember that not everyone will agree with you on this, and you probably will get flak for it. But just know that Jesus loves you, and it is not the distance between you and your fiancee's bed, but the intention for that distance. For me, Christianity is all about intentions. So if you intend to honor God and still live under the same roof, who cares? God doesn't. He simply cares if you two can wait, which judging by your responses, seems highly probable.

Go in Peace, Sister!
 
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Our immediate family who are Christian are content with our decision, and believe we are doing the right thing. But other people who don't know us as well seem to be challenged by our decision.

I am considering just going to court and getting married legally and then having the ceremony later, when our families can attend, however I guess this does make it less special.
It sounds to me like the issue is more about people's perceptions than you thinking you're vulnerable to opposing God. All your intents show that you are not making any efforts to sin or frustrate the plans of God.

Walk away from legalism. Don't put people above God. I know it's a messy situation, and there's no easy way to make this appear wholesome and unquestionable. You already made a commitment to marry, God knows it, and the public knows it. You made a commitment to own a house together.

As you say, "It was just a financial decision we made."

This is the just beginning of things people will say about you as a couple. Learn to stand up for what you decide to do, and don't worry about what people say. It's hard to make that transition from living under parents' and teachers' admonition, to making adult decisions without any authorities above you. (There will still be authorities, don't worry.) Getting married is one of those pivotal moments where people begin to see you as capable adults. You are capable of making a wise decision, and dealing with any consequences. People will always gossip and critique, no matter what you do.

Settling into the property is a lot less risquee than sleeping at the feet of Boaz.
 
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Getting married is very special regardless if you get married at the magistrate's
office or at a small bed and breakfast place.
What makes it very special? You both are honoring God and each other.

Me and my husband married for less than six hundred dollars--
I wore a clearance rack formal dress and my hubby rented a tux
for less than $20 bucks.
What matters most is you are marrying the one who loves and cares
about YOU.
 
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