Romney just cost himself the election

[Jeffwhosoever]

I think Obama is going to lose on the economy primarily, based on his poor record and proven inability to work with Republicans who will retain control of Congress, and the new attention on foreign policy highlighted by a fake case against China on autos, a withering support for Israel, and the uproar across the Middle East.

My two cents.

 

[JoyJuice]

I think Obama is going to lose on the economy primarily, based on his poor record and proven inability to work with Republicans who will retain control of Congress, and the new attention on foreign policy highlighted by a fake case against China on autos, a withering support for Israel, and the uproar across the Middle East.

My two cents.

It is hard to work with a group who made it their position to not work with you. I give Obama credit for getting what he got done.

Moreover, it is congress, in specific the GOP house who is responsible for drafting legislation to address the economy. They have legislated NOTHING to redress the economy. Obama has done that on many occasions including the lastest jobs bill blocked by the GOP.

 

[Jeffwhosoever]

It is hard to work with a group who made it their position to not work with you. I give Obama credit for getting what he got done.

Moreover, it is congress, in specific the GOP house who is responsible for drafting legislation to address the economy. They have legislated NOTHING to redress the economy. Obama has done that on many occasions including the lastest jobs bill blocked by the GOP.

Yeah, we know Obama can't work with Republicans in the House, but thank for highlighting that fact.

 

[JoyJuice]

Yeah, we know Obama can't work with Republicans in the House, but thank for highlighting that fact.

No one can work with anyone who stated on the very day they were inagurated to not work with them.

The failure is the GOP for not doing what they are paid to do, and it appears you want to reward them.

 

[JoyJuice]

You know, now that I think about it Mitt maybe one of those he talks about who doesn't pay taxes and is reason why he won't release his taxes.

 

[MachZer0]

You know, now that I think about it Mitt maybe one of those he talks about who doesn't pay taxes and is reason why he won't release his taxes.

We've seen his taxes

 

[JoyJuice]

We've seen his taxes

One years worth. Not sure why he thinks he is better then anyone else.

He must be one of those who doesn't pay taxes he talks about

 

[mpok1519]

He's realistic enough to know that if minorities vote for Obama, just because it's empowering to vote for someone other than whitey, then the democrats will probably win...and he feels, like I feel, that if Obama has another 4 years, we're in trouble.

"the whole country is in trouble if we can't convince minorities to vote for us" is what he is saying.

And that's just ridiculous.

And relax. American hard work gets us through any economic hardship. Thats just in our nature.

 

[Vylo]

I think Obama is going to lose on the economy primarily, based on his poor record and proven inability to work with Republicans who will retain control of Congress

Republicans don't have control of the senate and their grasp is tenous at best of taking it. There is are some murmurs they may even lose the house.

 

[mpok1519]

It should be very interesting to see how it comes out. No, Mitt hasn't written off anyone. He was pointing to the economic failure of Obama, though I'll give you he could have said it a LOT better.

Yeah, Obama's economic failure. Because Obama was in office when the economy crashed.

One is a bit misguided if they think an economy can recover fully after four years from such a crash and frankly needs a reality check.

 

[Stephen Kendall]

A lot more money would go into taxes, if the economy were working again. It isn't about who, but that there would be more paid in a better growing economy. We need to think about the whole forest and not the trees in particular. "Ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country!" Where is the backbone of our people? Where is the purpose for living? When you are married, you live for your family. We as people of the American or World's family should be living to help and not to be waited on. Let us try to not be a burden, but to help.

 

[mzungu]

47% of Americans are LEECHES WOW!

Why does this remind me of "All Jews are vermin"

 

[Redac]

47% of Americans are LEECHES WOW!

Why does this remind me of "All Jews are vermin"

It was a fairly contemptuous statement, but it was hardly THAT bad.

 

[Oneofthediaspora]

Many Americans are hardworking contributors, but the democrat party has created an entitlement class that they keep dependent on big government through tax policy, handouts, and such. They have no intention of lifting anyone out of this pool; they need them to secure their offices knowing that they will rarely vote against the hand that feeds them.

Please do not misunderstand, though. Not all recipients of this free help are part of this entitlement class. Some are out of work and struggling to feed families. Some are war verterans looking to get back on their feet. Others are single parents through no fault of their own and need a temporary hand up.

But there is a segment of those receiving benefits that beleive they are entitled to everything and anything they can get. These are the leeches and ticks on society that need to be cut off and forced to participate in their own upkeep. These are the ones who think their government paid apartment is theirs to leave to thier children. These are the ones who complain that cable for the wide screen TV's should be provided free. THese are the ones who think cell phones are a right and should also be provided. These are the ones who sell their EBT cards for cash. Obama's Aunt Zeituni, Boston's most infamous illegal alien, is the poster-child for this group.

This is similar to most countries then. There is a social safety net and sometimes it is abused by unscrupulous people ?

It was the figure of 47% that shocked me. 47% who don't take any responsibility for themsleves ? I think that must not be true.

 

[Vylo]

This is similar to most countries then. There is a social safety net and sometimes it is abused by unscrupulous people ?

It was the figure of 47% that shocked me. 47% who don't take any responsibility for themsleves ? I think that must not be true.

It isn't true.

This is just the % of people who don't pay income tax. This has commonly been in the 40% range, and even includes some millionaires who have significant tax breaks.

Of those who don't pay income tax, 10.3% of the population (or over a fifth of those not paying income tax) are elderly. Another 6.9% make under 20,000 a year. The remainder (28.3%) still pay payroll taxes and thus contribute to the federal revenue.

Add it up and you come up with .9% that don't fit any of the criteria, and are most likely leeches. I've met some of those people, and heard of more. They aren't common, but they are out there. They live off food stamps, make no effort to seek real employment, and live in squalor waiting for handouts. They leech off family and friends who visit them (which in turn leads to no one visiting them after not too long).

But those people aren't as common as many people would have you think. I've worked in soup kitchens and homeless shelters, and I have seen many hard working, decent people come through those doors. I've talk to them about where they work and how they want to improve their lot. The are unfortunate not just in their circumstances, but in that they share the tarnish of the worthless leeches who walk through those same doors with their hands open and their minds closed.

 

[Oneofthediaspora]

It isn't true.

This is just the % of people who don't pay income tax. This has commonly been in the 40% range, and even includes some millionaires who have significant tax breaks.

Of those who don't pay income tax, 10.3% of the population (or over a fifth of those not paying income tax) are elderly. Another 6.9% make under 20,000 a year. The remainder (28.3%) still pay payroll taxes and thus contribute to the federal revenue.

Add it up and you come up with .9% that don't fit any of the criteria, and are most likely leeches. I've met some of those people, and heard of more. They aren't common, but they are out there. They live off food stamps, make no effort to seek real employment, and live in squalor waiting for handouts. They leech off family and friends who visit them (which in turn leads to no one visiting them after not too long).

But those people aren't as common as many people would have you think. I've worked in soup kitchens and homeless shelters, and I have seen many hard working, decent people come through those doors. I've talk to them about where they work and how they want to improve their lot. The are unfortunate not just in their circumstances, but in that they share the tarnish of the worthless leeches who walk through those same doors with their hands open and their minds closed.

I don't get it then. I mean, I know politicians lie but most do so in an attempt to further their pursuit of power or to discredit an opponent etc. What is in it for Romney to say this ? It will only serve to alienate a substantial proportion of the population.

 

[JoyJuice]

I don't get it then. I mean, I know politicians lie but most do so in an attempt to further their pursuit of power or to discredit an opponent etc. What is in it for Romney to say this ? It will only serve to alienate a substantial proportion of the population.

I don't think he wanted that comment to get past the closed door of his big donors.

 

[HerbieHeadley]

It isn't true.

This is just the % of people who don't pay income tax. This has commonly been in the 40% range, and even includes some millionaires who have significant tax breaks.

Of those who don't pay income tax, 10.3% of the population (or over a fifth of those not paying income tax) are elderly. Another 6.9% make under 20,000 a year. The remainder (28.3%) still pay payroll taxes and thus contribute to the federal revenue.

Add it up and you come up with .9% that don't fit any of the criteria, and are most likely leeches. I've met some of those people, and heard of more. They aren't common, but they are out there. They live off food stamps, make no effort to seek real employment, and live in squalor waiting for handouts. They leech off family and friends who visit them (which in turn leads to no one visiting them after not too long).

But those people aren't as common as many people would have you think. I've worked in soup kitchens and homeless shelters, and I have seen many hard working, decent people come through those doors. I've talk to them about where they work and how they want to improve their lot. The are unfortunate not just in their circumstances, but in that they share the tarnish of the worthless leeches who walk through those same doors with their hands open and their minds closed.

When your graph says 28.3% pay payroll taxes, are we speaking of the employers contribution for the privilege of employing someone legally?

 

[HerbieHeadley]

"According to the government's own figures (US Census Bureau) approximately 49% of US households receives a government sponsored entitlement. This is defined as household that receive: disability, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps or housing assistance.

The top 1% of wage earners in the US accounted for roughly 36.73 percent of all federal income taxes collected for the tax year 2009 according to the National Taxpayers Union. Meanwhile, the bottom 50% of wage earners contributed 2.25% to all federal taxes collected. Mr. Romney correctly points out that 47% of all Americans pay ZERO federal taxes. Meanwhile, this latter group collects nearly $1 trillion per year through social welfare programs according to the CATO Institute. The Federal Government tax receipts for that year totaled approximately $2.2 trillion."

Mitt Romney Video Is Straight Talk, No Apologies [TRANSCRIPT] - September 18 12 12:27 EDT - ForexTV.com

 

[Thekla]

"According to the government's own figures (US Census Bureau) approximately 49% of US households receives a government sponsored entitlement. This is defined as household that receive: disability, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps or housing assistance.

The top 1% of wage earners in the US accounted for roughly 36.73 percent of all federal income taxes collected for the tax year 2009 according to the National Taxpayers Union. Meanwhile, the bottom 50% of wage earners contributed 2.25% to all federal taxes collected. Mr. Romney correctly points out that 47% of all Americans pay ZERO federal taxes. Meanwhile, this latter group collects nearly $1 trillion per year through social welfare programs according to the CATO Institute. The Federal Government tax receipts for that year totaled approximately $2.2 trillion."

Mitt Romney Video Is Straight Talk, No Apologies [TRANSCRIPT] - September 18 12 12:27 EDT - ForexTV.com

Also according to the CATO Institute, we spent (pre recession) twice as much on business welfare than on individual welfare (ex., 16 billion a year to the oil sector as well as tax breaks).