Why an eternal hell?

[Metal Minister]

Yes, death is the absence of life. Our bodies will die, whether or not we are saved. So when the bible talks about eternal life it's clearly not referring to the body.

Exactly. Our souls are eternal, not our bodies.

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[holo]

The you understate God's infinite holiness. We have transgressed that infinite holiness. How is an infinite transgression punished fairly with a finite punishment?

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It doesn't make sense to call it an "infinite transgression." It's not. God forgave people east and west in the OT, so apparently those sins weren't infinite like God couldn't or didn't want to forgive them. Also, sins could be covered by the blood of animals, and I doubt there are sheep and goats burning in hell now. And I KNOW Jesus isn't burning in hell now, even though he DID pay the price for our "infinite transgession."

The real question is, how can any sin be punished fairly with eternal suffering?

 

[holo]

Exactly. Our souls are eternal, not our bodies.

May God Richly Bless you!

But the bible repeatedly says that the SAVED will GET eternal life. Not that they already have it, much less that sinners have it. The bible says that the soul that sins shall DIE. God DENIED sinners eternal life way back in Genesis.

Genesis 3:22
And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”

Why would the bible say sinners will inherit eternal life if we all already have it? If that's the case then "life" and "death" must mean something completely different than life and death.

 

[Metal Minister]

It doesn't make sense to call it an "infinite transgression." It's not. God forgave people east and west in the OT, so apparently those sins weren't infinite like God couldn't or didn't want to forgive them. Also, sins could be covered by the blood of animals, and I doubt there are sheep and goats burning in hell now. And I KNOW Jesus isn't burning in hell now, even though he DID pay the price for our "infinite transgession."

The real question is, how can any sin be punished fairly with eternal suffering?

I will attempt to explain this again. God is infinite right? Sin is a transgression of God's holiness right? So if we sin against an infinite being why would that sin be only finite?

May God Richly Bless you!

 

[holo]

Here's a thought ( I know I said I was walking away but I had forgotten to unsubscribe and I apparently want to eternally torture myself) the soul is non-corporeal right? Fire only destroys physical things right? Now we know from any of the passages on hell that the soul is concious and can feel pain right? Then how can fire ( a corporeal thing ) ever fully consume a persons soul ( a non-corporeal thing )? A little simplistic I know, but it proves a point.

May God Richly Bless you!

Is the lake of fire a literal physical lake of fire?

 

[Metal Minister]

But the bible repeatedly says that the SAVED will GET eternal life. Not that they already have it, much less that sinners have it. The bible says that the soul that sins shall DIE. God DENIED sinners eternal life way back in Genesis.

Genesis 3:22
And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”

Why would the bible say sinners will inherit eternal life if we all already have it? If that's the case then "life" and "death" must mean something completely different than life and death.

Wow, you're splitting hairs here. Our bodies are finite. Our souls continue on after our bodies die right? So how does that make our souls finite? Those in hell are suffering the eternal punishment of death away from God, and fire. Eternal life is life with God.

May God Richly Bless you!

 

[holo]

I will attempt to explain this again. God is infinite right? Sin is a transgression of God's holiness right? So if we sin against an infinite being why would that sin be only finite?

May God Richly Bless you!

Because the sin is, well, finite. I stole money once. I got caught and paid the price and it's over with. I'm not continually stealing money forever and ever just because I did it once, and I'm not infinitely guilty.

What happens to your "infinite" sin when you are saved?

How can Jesus have paid the price and not be in hell right now if the price is eternal pain?

 

[FredVB]

And God's purpose is to create people in order to torture them for eternity? Does he love them? He can not be both good and infinitely evil at the same time. He can not be both just and completely unjust at the same time. Even Auschwitz would be like heaven compared to burning forever. But what's your point? That sinners should be punished in the absolute most horrific way imaginable?

Once again, torture in eternity is not mentioned but torment is, which was explained several times. The burning is a metaphor, there will be anguish there is anguish forever that is mentioned, what it will be will be in total fairness as Yahweh is perfectly just in his goodness, how is that saying he is evil let alone infinitely so? This is using twisted logic that does not recognize what is really said.

 

[ChrisBot]

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