Is it hard?

[Phil4v13]

Do you find it hard to try not to sin everyday? What do you to help you?

 

[The Engineer]

I don't believe in God, so I have no everyday problem with sinning (in fact, I don't even believe in the concept of sin). I simply try to be a decent person, and that's it.

 

[quatona]

Do you find it hard to try not to sin everyday? What do you to help you?

If I understand the Christian idea of "sin" correctly, it´s another way of saying "missing the mark of perfection".
Personally, I don´t seem to have any problem with not being perfect. The task of permanently improving is actually what keeps me going. I imagine perfection to be quite boring.

 

[Eudaimonist]

Do you find it hard to try not to sin everyday? What do you to help you?

What precisely are you struggling with?


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Archaeopteryx]

When I was a Christian, yes I did find it hard not to sin every day. By that I mean I found it extremely difficult to be perfect every day. This inevitably took an emotional toll on me. But perhaps that's because, in my case, I felt conscious of sin, or even the potential for sin, at every single moment. It came to dominate my thoughts to the point of obsession. And it lead to distress when, each day, I failed to be "perfect".

 

[juvenissun]

Do you find it hard to try not to sin everyday? What do you to help you?

Congratulation. It is a good sign.

There is no better way but keep trying not to and pray a lot. Eventually, you will overcome little by little. When you do, it feels real good.

The important thing is: Do not let it be a burden to you. The price of sin has already been paid in full.

 

[juvenissun]

When I was a Christian, yes I did find it hard not to sin every day. By that I mean I found it extremely difficult to be perfect every day. This inevitably took an emotional toll on me. But perhaps that's because, in my case, I felt conscious of sin, or even the potential for sin, at every single moment. It came to dominate my thoughts to the point of obsession. And it lead to distress when, each day, I failed to be "perfect".

That is why you need a "savior". Why did you walk out of Christianity?

 

[juvenissun]

If I understand the Christian idea of "sin" correctly, it´s another way of saying "missing the mark of perfection".
Personally, I don´t seem to have any problem with not being perfect. The task of permanently improving is actually what keeps me going. I imagine perfection to be quite boring.

Don't jump to the imaginary thing like "perfection". It is not that serious yet.

Sin means something you do not feel right, but you still do it.

 

[juvenissun]

I don't believe in God, so I have no everyday problem with sinning (in fact, I don't even believe in the concept of sin). I simply try to be a decent person, and that's it.

A criminal is also trying to be a decent person. Why is yours better than his?

 

[Eudaimonist]

A criminal is also trying to be a decent person.

In what way is a criminal trying to be a decent person while at the same time engaging in criminal activity?


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[The Engineer]

A criminal is also trying to be a decent person. Why is yours better than his?

Because I'm better at it than him, maybe? Because according to pretty much every system of morality, being a criminal is worse than not being a criminal? Because I hurt less people than criminals do? Because I don't let little kids get hooked on drugs?

By the way, you can quote multiple people in one post. I suggest you start doing this. Having to read three posts from you in a row is getting annoying.

 

[quatona]

Do jump to the imaginary thing like "perfection". It is not that serious yet.

Sin means something you do not feel right, but you still do it.

Apart from semantics, how does that affect the content of my post?

 

[quatona]

A criminal is also trying to be a decent person. Why is yours better than his?

Well, success is typically not measured by how hard you´ve tried but by the result.
If, however, success is not the criterium two people who try equally hard are doing equally good (the results may differ e.g. because one of them has some kind of handicap).

 

[Archaeopteryx]

That is why you need a "savior". Why did you walk out of Christianity?

Because I found myself agreeing less and less with the beliefs of Christianity and theism in general.

 

[Rajni]

That is why you need a "savior".

Don't you mean "needed" a savior? In other words, Jesus doesn't have to come back and die again for anyone, does he?

 

[juvenissun]

In what way is a criminal trying to be a decent person while at the same time engaging in criminal activity?


eudaimonia,

Mark

Some are doing (bad) things to make themselves better. Some succeeded, some did not.

 

[juvenissun]

Because I'm better at it than him, maybe? Because according to pretty much every system of morality, being a criminal is worse than not being a criminal? Because I hurt less people than criminals do? Because I don't let little kids get hooked on drugs?

By the way, you can quote multiple people in one post. I suggest you start doing this. Having to read three posts from you in a row is getting annoying.

That is a bad thing to do.

 

[juvenissun]

Because I found myself agreeing less and less with the beliefs of Christianity and theism in general.

So you are going deeper into agony (feel that you are a sinful man).

I think you got it.

 

[juvenissun]

Apart from semantics, how does that affect the content of my post?

I feel sinful not because I could not be perfect.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

So you are going deeper into agony (feel that you are a sinful man).

I think you got it.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that? Do you mean that I'm going deeper into agony because I find myself agreeing less and less with the beliefs of theistic religions?