Answers To Atheism

[someguy14]

Do I have to start quoting Captain Kirk to you again? Do you not understand that we think the Bible is on par with Greek Mythology? Quoting things out of it, and expecting us to take them seriously is wasting your time. Show the Bible is in any way valid in that regard, then we'll pay attention to it.

Hatred of "scripture" doesn't nullify the truth of it.

It is easy to understand.

Love does not rejoice in iniquity(wickedness), Love rejoices in the truth.

That means, all wickedness is a lie. All goodness is truth.

My time is never wasted by "quoting scripture"(truth). My "quoting scripture" will do all that it is required to do and will not return to me empty.

If it is bringing one to God, the Maker, or providing mankind without an excuse, it always does as it is intended to do.

 

[sandwiches]

God is not the author of confusion, the devil is. Remembering that God is all good, eliminates confusion.

God created the devil. So, God still created confusion by creating the devil.

 

[Eudaimonist]

The ones that rebelled against God chose to serve wickedness instead of God.

That's assuming that God exists and that they knew who and what God was, and what God's will was, and that they actually chose to serve wickedness knowing it to be wickedness. That's many qualifiers needed for your claim to make sense.

Attempting to claim power, from the one that already created it. It is the core of ignorance. God already created it(all goodness)

Hold on! God created all goodness? I thought that you said that God is all goodness. Are you suggesting that God created himself?

who would want to pretend to take credit for that...selfish, hateful, wicked, proud, greedy...etc.

Who? Apparently, mythological characters filling their role in the story.

Satan wanted credit for that which was already created!

Doesn't it occur to you how little sense that makes for an actual person? Satan would presumably know that God is omnipotent, omniscient, and eternal, so what would be the point of trying to claim credit for anything not one's own? It only makes sense in mythology.

eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[someguy14]

God created the devil. So, God still created confusion by creating the devil.

God created all. This is good news. God is the only one worth acknowledging.

The devil chose to serve wickedness and confusion, cause he(the devil) hates God.

 

[someguy14]

That's assuming that God exists and that they knew who and what God was, and what God's will was, and that they actually chose to serve wickedness knowing it to be wickedness. That's many qualifiers needed for your claim to make sense.

God does exist. God is all existence.
God is life itself.

All get a chance to know God. That presents all without excuse.

The burden is light friend. All goodness is of God and all wickedness is against God. Love is not forced. God does not force Himself upon mankind, or angels for that matter. One has a choice. Serve goodness and serve God, or serve wickedness and fight against God. Life is goodness, and those that serve wickedness must not exist, because life is eternal and wickedness does not have a place in life.

 

[someguy14]

Hold on! God created all goodness? I thought that you said that God is all goodness. Are you suggesting that God created himself?

God is all goodness, and none can create anything apart from Him. God Himself is goodness. God created all life. Himself alone. God is good friend.

 

[Eudaimonist]

God is all goodness, and none can create anything apart from Him. God Himself is goodness. God created all life. Himself alone. God is good friend.

You didn't say anything that resolved the dilemma.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[someguy14]

Doesn't it occur to you how little sense that makes for an actual person? Satan would presumably know that God is omnipotent, omniscient, and eternal, so what would be the point of trying to claim credit for anything not one's own? It only makes sense in mythology.

Of course the devil trying to take credit for God is ignorance, hence the confusion. The devil was an angel, lifted higher than any angel, with pride, instead of gratefulness to God, decided he was better than all, tried to steal the throne of God Himself(the Maker of all). Exactly, who could be that stupid...

Apparently the devil. Gathering other angels and fought against God. God commanded the Angels, the ones that believe in the truth that God created all already, to remove the devil and his(the devils followers of wickedness), cast out from Heaven, the dwelling place of God Himself, perfection. Now the devil, knowing that he has messed up already, continously fights against all that belong to God(goodness), knowing that he is destined to suffer eternal torment for his rebelious acts against God Hmself, the Creator of all. The devil is already aware that he is doomed, and constantly fights against God, trying to persuade mankind into fighting against God, goodness itself. It is a choice, to serve goodness or serve wickedness, by all that are below God Himself, for God(love) is not forced upon any. One that truely rejoices in goodness, is of God and is eternal and is promised life everlasting where pain and suffering don't exist. Those that choose to serve wickedness, choose every wickedness, pain and suffering, torment and seperation from God Himself, all goodness. Mankind is without excuse.

 

[someguy14]

You didn't say anything that resolved the dilemma.


eudaimonia,

Mark

That dilemma is ficticious. God is the resolve of every situation.

 

[someguy14]

A believer in God tests all things. A non believer rejects, without testing.
Think to the core of your unbelief. How simple it is. Hatred? Possibly. Anger? Possibly.

Mankind suffers. In fact, all that believe in Jesus are guaranteed to suffer. But only by worldly standards. All witness that life is temporal and death happens to all mankinds physical bodies. God is the love and that love is eternal. Witnessing that love, is witnessing the eternal and that eternal never dies. All things are possible with God. The physical world is not the end. Life is life, and life is eternal.

 

[Eudaimonist]

That dilemma is ficticious. God is the resolve of every situation.

It was your own words that gave rise to the dilemma. What is its resolution? Please explain.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Dave Ellis]

Good news, God is all the good. ​

The ones that rebelled against God chose to serve wickedness instead of God. Attempting to claim power, from the one that already created it. It is the core of ignorance. God already created it(all goodness), who would want to pretend to take credit for that...selfish, hateful, wicked, proud, greedy...etc. Satan wanted credit for that which was already created!​

The devil that rejected God, in turn, was rejected from perfection, cause God is perfection. The devil, a fallen angel, demon, hates God so much that he constantly strives to fight against God, knowing that he has already failed and only has eternal torment to look forward to. The devil, the father(maker) of lies/ignorance, constantly battles against God, the Creator of all goodness, out of spite, hatred.​

God is not the author of confusion, the devil is. Remembering that God is all good, eliminates confusion. (Sounds almost like a comic book if viewed without actually knowing God Himself). Delusions are an attack from the devil, a mere fallen angel, not even worthy to be a human. A human at least has a chance to be with God and rejoice in His perfection. All humans have already conquered demons, fallen angels, to put it clearly, the rebelious against goodness itself. The humans that rebel against God are products of tiny little pathetic worthless demons that are aware that God Himself has already defeated.​

Let us look at a scale of truth.​

God(truth)
Angels(Gods own)
Humans for God
______________________​

Humans against God
demons(enemies of God, followers of the devil, wicked)
the devil(liar)​

And how do you know any of this? I asked you to provide evidence, not more blind assertion.

 

[Dave Ellis]

Your a witness of all that literally is day after day. Intelligent design. If one studies anatomy, they no doubt understand, or at the least have witnessed intelligent design. Mankind(male/female) is without excuse.

How do you figure that?

 

[someguy14]

It was your own words that gave rise to the dilemma. What is its resolution? Please explain.


eudaimonia,

Mark

Explain your dilemma.
The devil is defeated and God reigns. We have no dilemma.

 

[Eudaimonist]

A believer in God tests all things. A non believer rejects, without testing.

Actually, I had tested Christianity and found it lacking.

Think to the core of your unbelief. How simple it is. Hatred? Possibly. Anger? Possibly.

Neither. Christianity failed to stand up to the test of reason and reality. I realized that my prior belief was a house of cards that finally came crashing down. I have since built a much stronger structure.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Dave Ellis]

A lie promotes another lie. It isn't difficult to understand.

In some cases, but not always.

Still, what's your point?

 

[someguy14]

Actually, I had tested Christianity and found it lacking.

One can only find it lacking if they havn't accepted the truth of it.
The truth is, God is good. Accept it.

 

[Eudaimonist]

Explain your dilemma.

It's your dilemma, not mine.

You had written:

Good news, God is all the good.

You had also written:

God already created it(all goodness)


If God created all goodness, and God is all the good, then God would have to have created himself. Are you suggesting that God created himself? That's your dilemma.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Gracchus]

God does exist. God is all existence.
God is life itself.

That is called "pantheism". The Christians I know call it a heresy. It is, however, consistent with science. Because if god is all existence then science is the study of God.

And if God is all existence then we are all a part of God, and not separate. That would mean that all that "original sin", and "sin nature" is just so much smoke and mirrors. It would mean that preachers, prophets, pastors, priests and popes are just trying to tell you are separated from God, so they can get you back to where you always are, while separating you from your cash. Of course they might believe it all themselves, since it is to their economic advantage. Fear and/or money can usually convince people of anything.

 

[someguy14]

In some cases, but not always.

Still, what's your point?

God is truth, and those against God(truth), fail.