The best evidence for Creationism

[driewerf]

Rainbow once again... I don't comprehand that site. Make a short breif out of it. I simply have trubble communicating with computers.

The Swedish Wikipedia:
Regnbåge - Wikipedia

 

[Lillen]

It didn't answer if you think the moisture in the air is working organized. Are the rain drops organized or not? If 'not' we would see a bright light from all the diffrent drops. If yes, how are they organized?

I honestly didn't find that wiki page satisfactory to the issue.

 

[Keachian]

It didn't answer if you think the moisture in the air is working organized. Are the rain drops organized or not? If 'not' we would see a bright light from all the diffrent drops. If yes, how are they organized?

I honestly didn't find that wiki page satisfactory to the issue.

The raindrops are organised in that they keep falling past the points at which it is optimal for us to see the refraction.

Yosemitebear Mountain Giant Double Rainbow 1-8-10 - YouTube

 

[Lillen]

But isn't the actuall refraction organised too?

 

[driewerf]

It didn't answer if you think the moisture in the air is working organized. Are the rain drops organized or not? If 'not' we would see a bright light from all the diffrent drops. If yes, how are they organized?

I honestly didn't find that wiki page satisfactory to the issue.

No. There are not "organised". It's just rain falling.
And the sunlight shinning upon the raindrops. But because there is constant ly new rain falling, and constantly sunlight shinning, it seems as if the rainbow is standing solidly in the air. The rainbow is an illusion. It isn't real.

 

[Keachian]

But isn't the actuall refraction organised too?

In the same way that any other refraction is organised, blue is slower than red light and so is bent more.

 

[Ronald]

The foetus was not knit together by God. This form of Christianity where God is involved in all things at all times and without his direct input in a continuous manner is not Christianity but some kind of strange cultic view.

Stick to Astro-Physics, you don't know the Bible too well do you?

Job asked a question, a concept Astro-Man fails to see.
Did not He who made me in the womb make them? Did not the same One fashion us in the womb? Job 31:15
The Lord answers Astro-Man:
As you do not know the way of the wind, Or how the bones grow in the womb of her who is with child, So you do not know the works of God who makes everything." Ecc. 11:5
King David knew and wrote songs about it and appreciated His work:
For you formed my inner parts; You covered me in my mother's womb." Psalm 139:13
NGC 6712 (Alias Astro-Man) did not do his Bible studies, he spent too much time with numbers and equations that he failed to see the forest for the trees!
Thus says the Lord who made you
And formed you from the womb, who will help you ..." Isaiah 44:2
God also prepares our ways and path before we can even speak!
And now the Lord says,
Who formed me from the womb to be His servant, ..." Isaiah 49:5
He knew Jeremiah before he was born -- meaning in his mind, not that he existed yet.
Before I formed you in the womb I knew you;
Before you were born I sanctified you;
I ordained you a prophet to the nations." Jeremiah 1:5


This is basic theology. God is sovereign and makes life and guides it's process. He made everything complete and orders the universe including setting in place the physics for Astro-Man to study.

I don't know what church you attend or if you are just posing to be a Christian to advance your views and insult Christians, but you needed some rebuke. Sorry, I have a certain amount of tolerance with types like you ... you crossed the line pal.

 

[CaliforniaSun]

Stick to Astro-Physics, you don't know the Bible too well do you?

Job asked a question, a concept Astro-Man fails to see.
Did not He who made me in the womb make them? Did not the same One fashion us in the womb? Job 31:15
The Lord answers Astro-Man:
As you do not know the way of the wind, Or how the bones grow in the womb of her who is with child, So you do not know the works of God who makes everything." Ecc. 11:5
King David knew and wrote songs about it and appreciated His work:
For you formed my inner parts; You covered me in my mother's womb." Psalm 139:13
NGC 6712 (Alias Astro-Man) did not do his Bible studies, he spent too much time with numbers and equations that he failed to see the forest for the trees!
Thus says the Lord who made you
And formed you from the womb, who will help you ..." Isaiah 44:2
God also prepares our ways and path before we can even speak!
And now the Lord says,
Who formed me from the womb to be His servant, ..." Isaiah 49:5
He knew Jeremiah before he was born -- meaning in his mind, not that he existed yet.
Before I formed you in the womb I knew you;
Before you were born I sanctified you;
I ordained you a prophet to the nations." Jeremiah 1:5


This is basic theology. God is sovereign and makes life and guides it's process. He made everything complete and orders the universe including setting in place the physics for Astro-Man to study.

I don't know what church you attend or if you are just posing to be a Christian to advance your views and insult Christians, but you needed some rebuke. Sorry, I have a certain amount of tolerance with types like you ... you crossed the line pal.

LOL... "them's fightin' words!"

 

[Loudmouth]

The Lord answers Astro-Man:
As you do not know the way of the wind, Or how the bones grow in the womb of her who is with child, So you do not know the works of God who makes everything." Ecc. 11:5

And yet we do know the way of the wind. We have weather satellites that track it.

We also know how bones grow in a fetus. It is covered in developmental biology:

Osteogenesis: The Development of Bones - Developmental Biology - NCBI Bookshelf

 

[Ronald]

What of miscarriages? Still births? Is that what happens when God skips a loop?

Sin corrupted the perfection from the start. All forms of abnormalties, defects, diseases, etc. got there start back then -- in the Garden. Sin distorts not just morality, but the entire eco-system suffered as well. Hence, birth defects from bad genes passed down and multiplied.
There is a purpose in the whole scheme of things. We need to know evil and it's destructive consequences to appreciate what good is. Otherwise what would we compare it to? We can't appreciated the attributes of God unless we experience the opposite. We would not know love, grace, peace, kindness, hope, forgiveness, faith unless we went without it. Then when it comes along, it is wonderful and we know and appreciate. This is why it was a great plan. There is a rejuvenation we experience when we are the giver or recipient of good. Is that something tangible to you, Davian?

 

[Ronald]

Where, exactly?

Blindness disables you to see.

Modern science disagrees.

Many medical doctors believe in God and scientists as well. Good science supports Creation. That's what Sir Francis Bacon had in mind.

So Harlequin Syndrome is, what, God knitting while drunk?

*see previous post to Davian for answer.

 

[CaliforniaSun]

Sin corrupted the perfection from the start. All forms of abnormalties, defects, diseases, etc. got there start back. Sin distorts not just morality, but the entire eco-system suffered as well. Hence, birth defects from bad genes passed down multiply.
There is a purpose in the whole scheme of things. We need to know evil and it's destructive consequences to appreciate what good is. Otherwise what would we compare it to? We can't appreciated the attributes of God unless we experience the opposite. We would not know love, grace, peace, kindness, hope, forgiveness, faith unless we went without it. Then when it comes along, it is wonderful and we know and appreciate. This is why it was a great plan. There is a rejuvenation we experience when we are the giver or recipient of good. Is that something tangible to you, Davian?

So basically, you're saying your god messed up... twice.

 

[Ronald]

Evidence please.

Life and it's process of growth. Deductive reasoning concludes that biology, chemistry, physics coupled with any form of energy plus any amount of time cannot design what we see in all life and even non-living molecular structures. You all are dillusional. Didn't Thor pay you a visit yet ... I'm gonna have to call him back.

 

[Ronald]

NO I'm not! You can't read nor understand life. Excuse me, I have to
dust off my sandals, see ya.

 

[Davian]

Sin corrupted the perfection from the start. All forms of abnormalties, defects, diseases, etc. got there start back. Sin distorts not just morality, but the entire eco-system suffered as well. Hence, birth defects from bad genes passed down multiply.

First, you assert that your God personally knits each fetus together - something beyond our understanding of chemistry.

Now you say that this (omnipotent?) God has trouble doing a good job every time because of 'sin'.

It would appear that this concept of 'sin' is a wholly mad-made concept fabricated by men. A problem asserted by a religion for which that religion offers a solution. It is dismissed as such.

There is a purpose in the whole scheme of things.

Just not in any way that you can demonstrate.

We need to know evil and it's destructive consequences to appreciate what good is. Otherwise what would we compare it to? We can't appreciated the attributes of God unless we experience the opposite. We would not know love, grace, peace, kindness, hope, forgiveness, faith unless we went without it. Then when it comes along, it is wonderful and we know and appreciate. This is why it was a great plan. There is a rejuvenation we experience when we are the giver or recipient of good. Is that something tangible to you, Davian?

It is - as we are social animals, I expect that these are evolved traits. As with other social animals, they held groups of our ancestors together long before the advent of language.

 

[CaliforniaSun]

NO I'm not! You can't read nor understand life. Excuse me, I have to
dust off my sandals, see ya.

Ok, bye.

 

[Non sequitur]

How is observation and pattern recognition equal a definitive deity?

 

[Loudmouth]

Life and it's process of growth. Deductive reasoning concludes that biology, chemistry, physics coupled with any form of energy plus any amount of time cannot design what we see in all life and even non-living molecular structures.

Evidence please. You keep making this claim, but offer absolutely no evidence to back it.

 

[Ronald]

First, you assert that your God personally knits each fetus together - something beyond our understanding of chemistry.

Now you say that this (omnipotent?) God has trouble doing a good job every time because of 'sin'.

God allows the consequences of sin to appear because there is an overall plan involving lessons to learn.

It would appear that this concept of 'sin' is a wholly mad-made

Jesus didn't think so. You can look at him and see good -- wouldn't you want to be good, full of the spirit of life with joy, peace and hope or are you content with life and who you are now? If you are content, then what are you seeking?

It is - as we are social animals, I expect that these are evolved traits. As with other social animals, they held groups of our ancestors together long before the advent of language.

Life to you is as you understand it and so no need for me to go on beating a dead horse ... unless there's a dead horse forum.

 

[Loudmouth]

Sin corrupted the perfection from the start.

Evidence please.

You are making all of these claims, but you seemingly have no evidence to back them up. Why is that?