So apparently nobody actually believes in creationism.

[SkyWriting]

No ... I have just as much right to believe what I believe as you do to believe what you believe.

I not only believe Adam wrote Genesis 1-3, I believe he wrote it in English.

That would be ye old styleth English, yay, even older than thou art used to reading.
And there wouldst be few among the people who couldst read language styled
in England, land of far away.

 

[Norman321]

I would say it is more about having a clear understanding of what is, and what is not, anachronistic.

Believing that God made the world is not a sufficient definition for Creationism

What is a "ism"? Doctrine, theories or systems of beliefs can be considered ism's. So you can not just throw a word out there and say you do not believe, without telling us just what it is you do or do not believe in.

 

[AV1611VET]

That would be ye old styleth English, yay, even older than thou art used to reading.

I also believe he lived in [what is now] China.

I can list my 'backwater' beliefs, and I can list by 'brainwashed' beliefs with impunity; as either way, I take ridicule, and have learned to live with it.

 

[SkyWriting]

I also believe he lived in [what is now] China.

I am interested in what causes you to conclude they spoke English in China in Adams day. I've just not heard much about the language theories. I think I have heard mention of the China idea before though. I always assume ones basis is sound until I determine it's not.

 

[AV1611VET]

I am interested in what causes you to conclude they spoke English in China in Adams day. I've just not heard much about the language theories. I think I have heard mention of the China idea before though. I always assume ones basis is sound until I determine it's not.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

I believe those books are the 66 books of the King James Bible; thus in Heaven, I believe there's a copy of the AV1611 Bible.

I don't believe Adam would start out with anything other than that language.

If he didn't, then why isn't English one of the languages created by the Tower of Babel incident?

As far as Adam living in [what is now] China is concerned; if Pangaea is Eden, then God planting a garden 'eastward in Eden', means He planted a garden 'eastward on Pangaea' -- in other words, China.

In addition, and as I understand it, the Chinese alphabet is made up of pictograms of Christian theology.

 

[CaliforniaSun]

I not only believe Adam wrote Genesis 1-3, I believe he wrote it in English.

Why do you believe this?

 

[AV1611VET]

Why do you believe this?

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[CaliforniaSun]

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So, basically you believe Adam spoke english because it's the language you happen to speak? The link you provided actually suggests that the bible was written in Chinese.

 

[AV1611VET]

So, basically you believe Adam spoke english because it's the language you happen to speak?

No.

 

[Guy1]

I suggest you take this discussion to another thread.

 

[USincognito]

What is a "ism"? Doctrine, theories or systems of beliefs can be considered ism's. So you can not just throw a word out there and say you do not believe, without telling us just what it is you do or do not believe in.

"ism" is a suffix that converts a noun into an adjective. That adjective can (in the case of Creationism) further morph into a noun.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

 

[Lion Hearted Man]

I not only believe Adam wrote Genesis 1-3, I believe he wrote it in English.

This makes no sense to me, on so many levels. But an interesting one is that it's as if God commissioned the KJV just for you and your English-reading KJV-only friends.

 

[AV1611VET]

This makes no sense to me, on so many levels. But an interesting one is that it's as if God commissioned the KJV just for you and your English-reading KJV-only friends.

The KJV existed in Heaven before the foundation of the earth.

 

[Lion Hearted Man]

The KJV existed in Heaven before the foundation of the earth.

Why? Why is that so essential to your beliefs? Why not just believe that the Bible had been passed along through the ages and translated into other languages as it goes?

 

[AV1611VET]

Why not just believe that the Bible had been passed along through the ages and translated into other languages as it goes?

I already believe that.

 

[jpcedotal]

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
John 1:18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.


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[Lion Hearted Man]

I already believe that.

But the source was the English King James Bible?

 

[AV1611VET]

But the source was the English King James Bible?

Okay ... you've lost me now.

How about hanging that Arab phone up and taking my posts for what I say, not what you want to hear, okay?

Let's start over, for the record, with what I have a right to believe:

1. I believe Adam wrote Genesis 1-3.
2. I believe the AV1611 King James Bible existed before the foundation of the earth.

The Bible was written in English, right up to Genesis 11, when English disappeared off the face of the Earth for thousands of years.

Let's not read anything into this that isn't there.

 

[Lion Hearted Man]

Okay ... you've lost me now.

How about hanging that Arab phone up and taking my posts for what I say, not what you want to hear, okay?

Let's start over, for the record, with what I have a right to believe:

1. I believe Adam wrote Genesis 1-3.
2. I believe the AV1611 King James Bible existed before the foundation of the earth.

The Bible was written in English, right up to Genesis 11, when English disappeared off the face of the Earth for thousands of years.

Let's not read anything into this that isn't there.

I'm *NOT* trying to be a jerk, AV. I'm legitimately curious about what you believe. But of course, you treat curiosity like the plague.

I was asking if the English KJB, which you say was authored first (however much it was, Genesis 1-11 or whatever), was the original source material for which other translations (in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, etc) were derived, or if those other translations arose in another fashion.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm trying to be a jerk, AV. I'm legitimately curious about what you believe. But of course, you treat curiosity like the plague.

I was asking if the English KJB, which you say was authored first (however much it was, Genesis 1-11 or whatever), was the original source material for which other translations (in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, etc) were derived, or if those other translations arose in another fashion.

I can't answer for what happened after the Tower of Babel.

Holy men spake (i.e. wrote) as they were inspired to do so by God.

The three major languages were Hebrew, Aramaic and [Koine] Greek.

After the completion of the Scriptures in A.D. 96, God superintended a few versions, while the English language was making a comeback.

Finally, in 1607-1611, God visited England* and reunited His Word with the Heavenly language and gave us the AV1611 King James Bible.

* God was in England all the time; but by saying He visited England, I mean He made England a priority on His agendum.

P.S. You might want to fix your first sentence.