Continuing sin

[SoundCard]

I know this struggle bitterly. One thing to consider is, it's not inherently evil that you have a sex drive, and that's something I wrestle with in trying to understand the problem. You feel what you feel for a reason, the habit itself is the thing that needs elimination, but that drive is meant to be shared between you and your future wife.

It doesn't excuse anything nor justify it but, try not to be too hard on yourself. It's common to all men in some facet or another, some less than others, but it's biological and it serves its own purpose, but it's a hard thing not to let get us down because it deals in areas that are intimate in nature and it's embarrassing and feels shameful to us who suffer from it. But you aren't alone in the struggle, take heart, you are not alone.

 

[vortigen84]

I know you guys get a lot of these, but here it goes

Last Monday, I was completely delivered from my masturbation addiction and I was full of joy. My walk with God has been good. I read my bible daily, pray and go to church. Then my body gives in and I fall into the Sam sin that I thought I got delivered from. Someone please tell me what's going on. Every time I fall, I repent and ask God to forgive me, but I don't know what else to do. I'm tired of falling. I'm saved and filled with his spirit, but sometimes I don't even know

You need to get a spouse, not simply learn to get a grip:

1 Corinthians 7:9

But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.​

Follow Paul's advice and you will be heading in the correct direction. God didn't give you a libido to suppress, but to let lose in the right way. Find a nice girl to marry and have your babies.


If you are clueless about how to go about this:

1.) Get a stable job.
2.) Move out and live independently as an adult.
3.) Be involved in serving in some church group.
4.) Meet single girl at said group.
5.) Fancy said girl and ask her if she wants to be your wife.
6.) If successful, hooray. If unsuccessful, repeat steps 3-5 as necessary.

 

[Ark100]

You ask 'if I'm set free Why do I keep falling?

Many think that Being 'delivered' from any bondage is just a prayer but sorry this is just part of the process, What we do not realise is this freedom is only kept through the renewing of our mind which only comes by reading and studying God's Word and as we do this the Holy Spirit transforms our mind and thinking so that we can become the people God wants us to be

I so agree with what was said here...that is the main reason why Jesus told the woman He delivered from the demons to go AND SIN NO MORE....because if she went and kept sinning, she would have more demons and worse think could happen to her.
Being saved or delivered permanently comes through renew of mind like mentioned here.
I really believe if you have the Holy Spirit fully functioning in you, you would be able to resist this temptation, and not keep going back to it.
Really move close to God. Pray for ability to resist temptations. You have to do your part as well...strong will
when the temptation comes, shout aloud. "NO, I WILL NOT DO IT FOR I AM A CHILD OF GOD"
Personally, I would just remember God watching me if I did something like that, and i'd feel terribly ashamed of myself.
He says "For I am Holy, therefore you should be Holy too"
Our body is the temple of The almighty God. We have to keep it clean, holy and really free for The Holy Spirit of God to function well.
The things I used to do when I was in the world. Smoking drinking, flirting all sorts of things, when I think about them now, I actually feel so ashamed that how could I let myself do that...and Jesus was watching me.
If you always remember Christ while temptation comes, you will be able to resist it.
Ask The Lord to help you, and say No to every voice or prompting to go back to it

 

[CounselorForChrist]

I have a solution!

Get married!!

That's my only piece of advice for you.

Exactly. WHen all else fails and we feel like we can't really stop ourselves then the bible says its better to marry then to be single and stay living in sin. Not to stereotype my own ethnicity (half Italian) but I am a passionate person in terms of love and sex. SO for me it would be impossible to stay single and not mess up I think. Although in al honesty I am currently getting married NOT because of the sex, but because I truly love the woman I am with. Sex is just the wonderful benifet of our union!

 

[Ark100]

I don't get it. If I'm set free, why do I keep falling?

@ elevate
If you are set free...you are free indeed BUT we fight not against flesh and blood remember, we fight against principalities of the enemy who is always trying to tempt us so we can go against God's will.
Do not expect temptations not to come for they will come in big folds..infact expect more at this time because you are closer to God.
By being free is resisting the enemy...rebuking him...in the name of JESUS CHRIST
This is what a lot of true christians go through and the battle they fight...temptations of the mind, of the body of the spiritual...
The enemy will look for your weakest weakness and try to bring it back to surface....
FIGHT it...resist it. I know some people said you its okay to touch without lustful thoughts...I wonder how anyone can actually do it without engaging their mind with some thoughts that is sexual or without watching something to stimulate them.
I really believe that masturbation is one of the bondages of the enemy...anyone can choose to believe it or not. It can become an addiction which only the power of God can break. It sinful and its not Holy.
Jesus Christ can help you break out of it.
We are flesh and blood but we can resist temptations if we want to, and we can really protect our body for years, anytime till we meet the right person meant for us.
Don't allow the man-accuser (devil) have something to hold you bondage in. Pray to God, set yourself free by the power of God. I pray The Lord helps you
Goodluck

 

[mytel]

Now it's just me wondering if he see what I'm going through. Then I also had this thought, maybe this sin is always going to be a thorn in my side to keep me seeking Jesus. he knows our hearts desires and he knows I'm no getting pleasure from it at all. But perhaps this is what he's using to keep me wanting more of him

Temptation will always be something we have to face, and this should be an area that keep us seeking God and staying in His word.. i dont believe God would keep us bound in addictions though, especially if it is causing much distress and especially if we want to change and break free from it.

We do need to rely on God to keep us from sin, but i dont see sin as a tool that is used to keep us seeking Him, rather the opposite, sin in our life can cause us to stumble and not grow spiritually. Having said that, only God knows what He is doing in your life. He may use certain things in your life to bring Him closer to you, so its certainly not for me to say, but between you and God.

We have to face the fact that we need God in order to overcome these things. We should not be mastered by anything, which is what happens when we are addicted to something. At the end of the day, we should be praising God and seeking Him regardless of what sin is in our life. Praying for you mate

 

[elavate7]

You need to get a spouse, not simply learn to get a grip:

1 Corinthians 7:9

But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.​

Follow Paul's advice and you will be heading in the correct direction. God didn't give you a libido to suppress, but to let lose in the right way. Find a nice girl to marry and have your babies.


If you are clueless about how to go about this:

1.) Get a stable job.
2.) Move out and live independently as an adult.
3.) Be involved in serving in some church group.
4.) Meet single girl at said group.
5.) Fancy said girl and ask her if she wants to be your wife.
6.) If successful, hooray. If unsuccessful, repeat steps 3-5 as necessary.

i know how to marry lol. im 22 and i have been dating a saved woman going on 2 years now. i would marry her, but im a full time missionary. i do live on my own at the theater where i minister at. so finances are the only problem

 

[elavate7]

thanks mytel and ark100. im staring to fell a little better. i dont know what i was talking about saying that it was right for me, maybe i was trying to justify even though it is wrong. and it is impossible to touch without lust. its crazy cause ever since i became a missionary, i have been drawing closer to God. i wake up with him on my mind, having morning and evening devotions with roommates, while working for him. i think for me, its finding the power to say no even though i do have the power in me. its a matter of being bold within myself. i know i have the holy spirit by evidence of speaking in tongues.

 

[CounselorForChrist]

1.) Get a stable job.
2.) Move out and live independently as an adult.
3.) Be involved in serving in some church group.
4.) Meet single girl at said group.
5.) Fancy said girl and ask her if she wants to be your wife.
6.) If successful, hooray. If unsuccessful, repeat steps 3-5 as necessary.

Actually thats pretty bad advice. Theres no "magic" steps in order to meet the right person. Such as having a job, a job doesn't change the fact if you will find someone or not. If anything it helps you cut out those people who think if you dont' have a job then your not important. I wouldn't want to marry those people because they do not have enough comnpassion as a christian to realize not everyone is able to work. Same goes for moving out.

You don't also have to go to a church to meet a christian girl. I met mine through a christian dating site, she lives on the other side of the planet.

 

[emperormar]

I know you guys get a lot of these, but here it goes

Last Monday, I was completely delivered from my masturbation addiction and I was full of joy. My walk with God has been good. I read my bible daily, pray and go to church. Then my body gives in and I fall into the Sam sin that I thought I got delivered from. Someone please tell me what's going on. Every time I fall, I repent and ask God to forgive me, but I don't know what else to do. I'm tired of falling. I'm saved and filled with his spirit, but sometimes I don't even know

The actual struggle you have is with your perception of what sin is and how God feels about your behavior.

If you think you have to repent (say you're really sorry and promise not to do it again) and ask God to forgive you then you don't understand what Christ bought for you on the cross.

God does not count people's sins against them (2 Corinthians 5:19). No matter what you do He doesn't get angry with you, He doesn't break fellowship with you, He doesn't love you any less.

You are failing because you think it is your job to fight. Jesus already won the victory over sin. You only defeat it when you take part in Christ's victory party. Don't listen to self-help style advice. The bible says many times that we are free from sin. You only live that freedom if you believe it is there. I live it and my spiritual life is indescribably wonderful because I don't try to improve myself, I just bask in The Father's love for me and my behavior is transformed as a side-effect.

Freedom doesn't come from perfect behavior but from properly placed trust. Your freedom is a fact. You experience freedom by trusting in God's love for you. His love is unconditional. His love for you is not dependent on your behavior, if you ask for forgiveness, if you ever read your bible. His loves passes all understanding because we think we have to earn love. Jesus fulfilled every condition for you. Believe it and live it. If you don't you will always fall, & always fail.

I've had the problem, I've tried the solutions the people gave here & they don't work. I guarantee that I am free and you can be to. Reread what I've said. I'm available through PM if you want to talk further.

 

[WilliamB]

The actual struggle you have is with your perception of what sin is and how God feels about your behavior.

If you think you have to repent (say you're really sorry and promise not to do it again) and ask God to forgive you then you don't understand what Christ bought for you on the cross.

God does not count people's sins against them (2 Corinthians 5:19). No matter what you do He doesn't get angry with you, He doesn't break fellowship with you, He doesn't love you any less.

You are failing because you think it is your job to fight. Jesus already won the victory over sin. You only defeat it when you take part in Christ's victory party. Don't listen to self-help style advice. The bible says many times that we are free from sin. You only live that freedom if you believe it is there. I live it and my spiritual life is indescribably wonderful because I don't try to improve myself, I just bask in The Father's love for me and my behavior is transformed as a side-effect.

Freedom doesn't come from perfect behavior but from properly placed trust. Your freedom is a fact. You experience freedom by trusting in God's love for you. His love is unconditional. His love for you is not dependent on your behavior, if you ask for forgiveness, if you ever read your bible. His loves passes all understanding because we think we have to earn love. Jesus fulfilled every condition for you. Believe it and live it. If you don't you will always fall, & always fail.

I've had the problem, I've tried the solutions the people gave here & they don't work. I guarantee that I am free and you can be to. Reread what I've said. I'm available through PM if you want to talk further.

Truth!

 

[dmccaffery122]

I agree with everyone. I too struggled with this many times and have fallen into the same sin many times. It sounds to me as though you are doing your part to seek God and his face. But in doing so, your heart needs to be in the right place as well. If it is something that you truly want to change and turn away from. God, and only God will give you the strength and determination to overcome.

The best way I was able to turn away from this sin was to eliminate the things that tempted me or fed my flesh. I temporarily stopped watching and listening to secular tv and music. Not only that but tried to surround myself by Godly people, especially males. Staying busy and changing old habits was very important for me.

Also remember a sin is a sin. The way we think as people we always tend to put more weight in certain areas of sin in our lives. Its by Gods grace that we are allowed to have a relationship with Jesus Christ and be saved. We all sin, and will never be perfect. The fact that your aware of your sin and working towards breaking the chains is a good thing. You will slip and fall. But, dont forget God is always there with open loving arms to pick you back up. It is all a constant growing and learning process. Never be to hard on yourself.

Last but not least, in seeking God keep in mind that its your personal relationship. You need to figure out what works for you and him. What works for others is not always going to work for you. I will be praying for you. God Bless.

 

[emperormar]

We all sin, and will never be perfect.

God does not identify you by your behavior but by the fact that you have a reborn spirit, that you are His child. God's children have been "perfected for all time" (Hebrews 10:14). You are perfect in God's eyes and God's eyes are the ones that count not our human eyes that judge everything based on behavior.

Romans 10:4 tells us, "Jesus Christ is the end of the law for everyone who trusts Him." Romans 4:15 says, "Where there is no law there is no sin." Romans 5:13 says, "Sin is not charged when there is no law." While we still do harmful things this thing called sin is over. Jesus took it away, He nailed it to the cross with the law.

"Jesus was revealed to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. Everyone who resides in him does not sin; everyone who sins has neither seen him nor known him. Everyone who has been born of God does not practice sin, because God’s seed resides in him, and thus he is not able to sin, because he has been fathered by God. We know that no one who is born of God sins; but Jesus who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him." (1 John 3:5-6,9; 5:18)

^That is talking about you Christians, your spirit (the only part of you that is born of God) is perfect and sinless. That is what it means to be a child of God. The bible says to not regard anyone, including yourself, according to the flesh (2 Corinthians 5:16). While my flesh still produces harmful actions I am perfect. I am sinless. Just like Jesus prayed for me to be in John 17:11 I am one with God. If you are a child of God you are too. 1 Corinthians 15:17 says, "We are not in our sins because Jesus rose from the dead!!" We are IN CHRIST. Join me & celebrate in Jesus's victory party

 

[vortigen84]

i know how to marry lol. im 22 and i have been dating a saved woman going on 2 years now.

If it's been two years already, then what are you waiting for? Do you want her or not? You ought to know by now. Be decisive!

Either propose to her immediately, or call the whole thing off. Don't dick her around, that's unfair, and doubly worse when you do it in Jesus' name.

i would marry her, but im a full time missionary. i do live on my own at the theater where i minister at. so finances are the only problem

Yes, well if you are a full time missionary, there should be Christians ready to back you. Are you sponsored by a church? If not, either sort this out, or seek a better job because if you plan to have kids and a family and so on, that all costs money. You really need to be an adequate provider before taking on a wife, in the same way that you do a feasibility study before taking on any big undertaking.

 

[mytel]

The actual struggle you have is with your perception of what sin is and how God feels about your behavior.

If you think you have to repent (say you're really sorry and promise not to do it again) and ask God to forgive you then you don't understand what Christ bought for you on the cross.

God does not count people's sins against them (2 Corinthians 5:19). No matter what you do He doesn't get angry with you, He doesn't break fellowship with you, He doesn't love you any less.

You are failing because you think it is your job to fight. Jesus already won the victory over sin. You only defeat it when you take part in Christ's victory party. Don't listen to self-help style advice. The bible says many times that we are free from sin. You only live that freedom if you believe it is there. I live it and my spiritual life is indescribably wonderful because I don't try to improve myself, I just bask in The Father's love for me and my behavior is transformed as a side-effect.

Freedom doesn't come from perfect behavior but from properly placed trust. Your freedom is a fact. You experience freedom by trusting in God's love for you. His love is unconditional. His love for you is not dependent on your behavior, if you ask for forgiveness, if you ever read your bible. His loves passes all understanding because we think we have to earn love. Jesus fulfilled every condition for you. Believe it and live it. If you don't you will always fall, & always fail.

I've had the problem, I've tried the solutions the people gave here & they don't work. I guarantee that I am free and you can be to. Reread what I've said. I'm available through PM if you want to talk further.

Ths is great, thanks for posting this

 

[brohammer26]

I have a solution!

Get married!!

That's my only piece of advice for you.

It is not that easy lol! Cant walk down the store and pick out a wife.

 

[ChildofGod777]

I thought the chains had been broken, at least, that's what another Christian said over my life and I actually felt it. I absolutely had no desire the entire week until today......

That's because the devil attacks when you least expect it and its often hard to say no. The lust and desires of the flesh are extremley strong. I too struggled for a long time but have no desire to anymore. Hopefully I can maintain this and stay pure. In Jesus name I pray for you and anyone else struggling..Amen.

 

[ChildofGod777]

The actual struggle you have is with your perception of what sin is and how God feels about your behavior.

If you think you have to repent (say you're really sorry and promise not to do it again) and ask God to forgive you then you don't understand what Christ bought for you on the cross.

God does not count people's sins against them (2 Corinthians 5:19). No matter what you do He doesn't get angry with you, He doesn't break fellowship with you, He doesn't love you any less.

You are failing because you think it is your job to fight. Jesus already won the victory over sin. You only defeat it when you take part in Christ's victory party. Don't listen to self-help style advice. The bible says many times that we are free from sin. You only live that freedom if you believe it is there. I live it and my spiritual life is indescribably wonderful because I don't try to improve myself, I just bask in The Father's love for me and my behavior is transformed as a side-effect.

Freedom doesn't come from perfect behavior but from properly placed trust. Your freedom is a fact. You experience freedom by trusting in God's love for you. His love is unconditional. His love for you is not dependent on your behavior, if you ask for forgiveness, if you ever read your bible. His loves passes all understanding because we think we have to earn love. Jesus fulfilled every condition for you. Believe it and live it. If you don't you will always fall, & always fail.

I've had the problem, I've tried the solutions the people gave here & they don't work. I guarantee that I am free and you can be to. Reread what I've said. I'm available through PM if you want to talk further.

This is probably the best response I've seen yet.
Read 1 John 1:9 and Ephesians 2:8-9

 

[elavate7]

The actual struggle you have is with your perception of what sin is and how God feels about your behavior.

If you think you have to repent (say you're really sorry and promise not to do it again) and ask God to forgive you then you don't understand what Christ bought for you on the cross.

God does not count people's sins against them (2 Corinthians 5:19). No matter what you do He doesn't get angry with you, He doesn't break fellowship with you, He doesn't love you any less.

You are failing because you think it is your job to fight. Jesus already won the victory over sin. You only defeat it when you take part in Christ's victory party. Don't listen to self-help style advice. The bible says many times that we are free from sin. You only live that freedom if you believe it is there. I live it and my spiritual life is indescribably wonderful because I don't try to improve myself, I just bask in The Father's love for me and my behavior is transformed as a side-effect.

Freedom doesn't come from perfect behavior but from properly placed trust. Your freedom is a fact. You experience freedom by trusting in God's love for you. His love is unconditional. His love for you is not dependent on your behavior, if you ask for forgiveness, if you ever read your bible. His loves passes all understanding because we think we have to earn love. Jesus fulfilled every condition for you. Believe it and live it. If you don't you will always fall, & always fail.

I've had the problem, I've tried the solutions the people gave here & they don't work. I guarantee that I am free and you can be to. Reread what I've said. I'm available through PM if you want to talk further.

thank you bro!!!

 

[elavate7]

If it's been two years already, then what are you waiting for? Do you want her or not? You ought to know by now. Be decisive!

Either propose to her immediately, or call the whole thing off. Don't dick her around, that's unfair, and doubly worse when you do it in Jesus' name.




Yes, well if you are a full time missionary, there should be Christians ready to back you. Are you sponsored by a church? If not, either sort this out, or seek a better job because if you plan to have kids and a family and so on, that all costs money. You really need to be an adequate provider before taking on a wife, in the same way that you do a feasibility study before taking on any big undertaking.

well i have some things to say about this

1. you dont nothing about my relationship with her and its not that easy to just get married. my relationship with her is serious and if i had the money i would marry her right now.

2. besides being a missionary, im also a musician and plan to do that for a reason, but if God says otherwise, who am i to question?