TATOO'S - for CHRISTIANS ????

[Izdaari Eristikon]

I think some of them are nice looking but in scripture, God says "NO".

“You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the LORD.” Leviticus 19:28 — New American Standard

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Now if you believe that this scripture does not apply for today then you must throw out all the other scriptures. No where does it say that some of Gods laws we are to obey and others we can trample on. Falling short for lack of knowledge is one thing. Falling short because we know what God says but don't like it, that is another. Those who say that God gave them peace about it are lying to themselves. God cannot deny Himself. It's impossible for Him to tell you something HE says in scripture is not OK is OK for you. In the event that one got their tatoo before they knew what HE says in scripture about it that's one thing. But knowing and doing it anyway is another.

I don't believe one is going to hell over it, however, Jesus said, "If you love me, you will keep my commandments". Sure you can repent, however, you bear the marks of your rebellion all the days of your life. Rebellion is the sin of witchcraft (says so in scripture). Rebellion before you knew God is one thing, rebellion after is another. "There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus". Those in Christ Jesus though, do things to the best of their ability according to what God says.

No, all I have to throw out is the Levitical law. Easy enough, since it was meant for the Tribe of Levi, which was the Jewish priestly caste. I am neither a Jew nor a Levite. Nor is it me throwing it out, for non-Jewish Christians. Paul already did that in Galatians.

 

[probinson]

Neither is there any scriptual basis that suggests that God has changed His mind since Leviticus.

If you say so, but there's an awful lot of laws listed in Leviticus. If you're using that as your reasoning that you say someone can't get a tattoo, I sure hope you're abiding by all of the other myriad of laws in Leviticus as well.

 

[ivanthegood]

I don't even know what that means.

How exactly would someone look like a Christian? Is there an acceptable appearance clause that I've missed somewhere?

well real Christianity teaches we are not to be worldly, not to do what the rest of the world is doing, can you grasp that teaching or is it out of your reach

 

[probinson]

well real Christianity teaches we are not to be worldly, not to do what the rest of the world is doing,

This is a pretty flimsy argument. There are countless ways that you and I are "do[ing] what the rest of the world is doing". I could list them if you like.

can you grasp that teaching or is it out of your reach

Thanks for the example! Your condescending tone is an excellent example of what not to do so that we don't look like the rest of the world.

Anyway, would you be willing to tell me what you think a Christian should look like? I'm genuinely curious as to what you would say.

 

[ivanthegood]

This is a pretty flimsy argument. There are countless ways that you and I are "do[ing] what the rest of the world is doing". I could list them if you like.



Thanks for the example! Your condescending tone is an excellent example of what not to do so that we don't look like the rest of the world.

Anyway, would you be willing to tell me what you think a Christian should look like? I'm genuinely curious as to what you would say.

why not try to look like Jesus, isn't He our best example, see Isaiah 53:2-12...........nothing about the man stood out, there was no beauty that we should desire Him........whats wrong with being common, i would say tattoos and all the other fades are about vanity and pride....neither of these are fruit of the Spirit

 

[Alive_Again]

My wife's daughter wanted one when she turned 18. Just before this, the Lord told her that He hated tattoos because they draw attention to the flesh. He likes everything reflected back to Him. (She didn't get the tattoo.)

For those who have them, and they are "deathly" in nature, I heard someone suggest putting a sword through an existing skull tattoo with Jesus' name above it to demonstrate victory over death.

If you can believe, you can ask God to give you new skin and then wait for the manifestation and just give it over to Him on the timing.

No condemnation for the spirit walking Christian. Probably not a good idea if you don't have one already.

 

[ivanthegood]

My wife's daughter wanted one when she turned 18. Just before this, the Lord told her that He hated tattoos because they draw attention to the flesh. He likes everything reflected back to Him. (She didn't get the tattoo.)

For those who have them, and they are "deathly" in nature, I heard someone suggest putting a sword through an existing skull tattoo with Jesus' name above it to demonstrate victory over death.

If you can believe, you can ask God to give you new skin and then wait for the manifestation and just give it over to Him on the timing.

No condemnation for the spirit walking Christian. Probably not a good idea if you don't have one already.

we all have a past, with scars of who we were before Christ transformed us into a new creation, why a new creation would want to participate in old pagan rituals, i have no idea, nothing about tattoos is productive to the cause of Christ.

 

[probinson]

why not try to look like Jesus, isn't He our best example,

Yes, He is. But the way we "look like Jesus" is not in our physical appearance, but rather in how we act, how we speak, etc. IOW, the inside of the cup.

see Isaiah 53:2-12...........nothing about the man stood out, there was no beauty that we should desire Him........whats wrong with being common,

Nothing. But you should realize that "common" is an incredibly subjective term. What you think is "common" could be quite different for another person. It seems unwise to use such a subjective measurement to judge people by, IMO.

i would say tattoos and all the other fades are about vanity and pride....neither of these are fruit of the Spirit

I have no doubt some are, but I don't think it's at all accurate to say every person who gets a tattoo does so for vanity or pride.

I wonder if you feel the same way about a person who wears jewelry, or a particularly nice outfit. I mean, people don't wear jewelry so that no one else will look at it. Is it wrong to wear jewelry? I suppose it depends on the intent of the heart, which is the same way I feel about tattoos.

Personally, I find tattoos silly. I would never get one myself and I see no purpose for them. But that's just my opinion.

 

[TasManOfGod]

Personally, I find tattoos silly. I would never get one myself and I see no purpose for them. But that's just my opinion.

Had you considered that the "law" written in Leviticus about them might be the same one as written on your heart.

 

[TasManOfGod]

My estimation of Christians putting tattoos on themselves (their "temples of the Holy Spirit"), even if they are said to glorify the god they serve, is equivalent to the Dome of the Rock being built on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

 

[fffaux]

My estimation of Christians putting tattoos on themselves (their "temples of the Holy Spirit"), even if they are said to glorify the god they serve, is equivalent to the Dome of the Rock being built on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

Woah, thats a bit of a heavy statement there guy, if we're going to go with the temple of the holy spirit concept, then i relate tattoos to murals on walls. if done well they can be beautiful representations of something meaningful, but they can very easily be done poorly.

 

[Izdaari Eristikon]

Woah, thats a bit of a heavy statement there guy, if we're going to go with the temple of the holy spirit concept, then i relate tattoos to murals on walls. if done well they can be beautiful representations of something meaningful, but they can very easily be done poorly.

I like that analogy!

I personally would not be interested in getting any tattoos that were not good art. If I do decide to do it, Seattle has some very talented tattoo artists.

 

[TasManOfGod]

God never said He liked the tattoos that look "nice"

 

[fffaux]

God never said He liked the tattoos that look "nice"

Right, he made a law in Leviticus that explicitly pertains to physical glorification of the dead, specifically in response to many pagan religions at the time. this does not apply to this day and age, further more, and this argument has been made several times now, if you take that verse, then you also have to take the following verse about not shaving. So in that case is anyone with a razor a sinner? or do we take the verses as they are originally meant, and not blindly under the guise of, "its in the Bible."

 

[Noxot]

YES. just think of having some cool tattoo like AhabahYAHAgapeRayah on your arm. SWEET. or ErosChristos or OpheliaTheos or ElohimSophia. or a big cross on you somewhere.
or

אַהֲבָה
ἀγαπάω
Χριστός
ἐκκλησία
φιλέω
AΩ
νύμφη
πνεῦμα
ζωή
ἅγιος
θεός
יְהוֹוָה
דַּעַת
מוֹרִיָה
אָהֵב
יִשׂרָאֵל
פְּנִיאֵל
אֱלוֹהִים

ect ect

maybe I will get one with "YAH" written all over my arm. that is the only one who matters anyways.

or how cool would it be to have some bible verse like:
1Pet 2:5
and ye yourselves, as living stones, are built up, a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

John 10:7
Jesus said therefore again to them, `Verily, verily, I say to you--I am the door of the sheep

Isa 11:1-2
And a rod hath come out from the stock of Jesse, And a branch from his roots is fruitful. Rested on him hath the Spirit of Jehovah, The spirit of wisdom and understanding, The spirit of counsel and might, The spirit of knowledge and fear of Jehovah.

ectect

 

[fffaux]

YES. just think of having some cool tattoo like AhabahYAHAgapeRayah on your arm. SWEET. or ErosChristos or OpheliaTheos or ElohimSophia. or a big cross on you somewhere.
or

אַהֲבָה
ἀγαπάω
Χριστός
ἐκκλησία
φιλέω
AΩ
νύμφη
πνεῦμα
ζωή
ἅγιος
θεός
יְהוֹוָה
דַּעַת
מוֹרִיָה
אָהֵב
יִשׂרָאֵל
פְּנִיאֵל
אֱלוֹהִים

ect ect

You'll have to forgive me, but all that is over my head and im not sure if you're being sarcastic with me or not, im just not sure what all that says or means.

 

[TasManOfGod]

Right, he made a law in Leviticus that explicitly pertains to physical glorification of the dead, specifically in response to many pagan religions at the time. this does not apply to this day and age, further more, and this argument has been made several times now, if you take that verse, then you also have to take the following verse about not shaving. So in that case is anyone with a razor a sinner? or do we take the verses as they are originally meant, and not blindly under the guise of, "its in the Bible."

I take it that you like tattoos so you juggle God's word so it says what you are comfortable with eh? Well at least I have told you that it doesn't mean what you think it does so the rest is up to you.

 

[SavingCady]

On the other hand, some enjoy being a part of the harlot church, whoring after the things of this world, committing spiritual adultery... not learning any lessons from the folks in the OT.

"Whoring after the things of this world." I wouldn't exactly call getting a tattoo that.

 

[fffaux]

I take it that you like tattoos so you juggle God's word so it says what you are comfortable with eh? Well at least I have told you that it doesn't mean what you think it does so the rest is up to you.

First off, i don't have tattoos, and i doubt ill ever get one. that is besides the point. now defend your position. you danced around the point that was made with cliched counters and ever addressed it, now defend Leviticus's relevance, or stop assaulting my faith. that was a shot you really didn't need to take.

 

[Noxot]

You'll have to forgive me, but all that is over my head and im not sure if you're being sarcastic with me or not, im just not sure what all that says or means.

those are different greek and hebrew words that have a tie to my thoughts about God. I think the best tattoo would be one of the Lords names. or a bible verse, think how many people look at tattoos, it could plant a seed and the seeds of God are so good.

or some kind of symbolic tattoo picture and then when people ask about it you explain the meaning just like angels explain visions to the prophets.

I feel very free in Christ. "to the pure in heart, all things are pure." << another awesome tattoo.