What is the purpose of Jesus in the Islam?

[Montalban]

Similarity indicates a comparison between two or more things with mutual familiarity: a wallaby is similar to a kangaroo.

I agree. Good example, even if you're referring to the football players
Kangaroos and Wallabies

 

[JesusFreak78]

I certainly didn't mean to imply they were the same. They do, however, share many similarities. See the Venn diagram.

Your diagram isn't entirely correct. Take one thing as an example, your diagram says Judaism, Christianity and Islam all believes in one god and to begin with that seems correct, but only in Christianity we believe in one God in three persons.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Your diagram isn't entirely correct. Take one thing as an example, your diagram says Judaism, Christianity and Islam all believes in one god and to begin with that seems correct, but only in Christianity we believe in one God in three persons.

That's still only one God.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Malley]

Your diagram isn't entirely correct. Take one thing as an example, your diagram says Judaism, Christianity and Islam all believes in one god and to begin with that seems correct, but only in Christianity we believe in one God in three persons.

Im sorry, but for fourteen years ive had Christians shout at me that "It's still only one God"

You have a good thing going here, don't ruin it!

 

[JesusFreak78]

That's still only one God.

-CryptoLutheran

I never said it wasn't one God.

 

[JesusFreak78]

Im sorry, but for fourteen years ive had Christians shout at me that "It's still only one God"

You have a good thing going here, don't ruin it!

I never implied it was anything but one God. That's one I said it's ONE God in three Persons.

 

[Malley]

I never implied it was anything but one God. That's one I said it's ONE God in three Persons.

But it's still One God.
Just like Islam.

 

[steve_bakr]

But it's still One God.
Just like Islam.

Yes!

 

[SanFrank]

Yes!

I would not rely on anything muhammad said about G*d. It's simply not relevant.

 

[steve_bakr]

I would not rely on anything muhammad said about G*d as relevant.

It is Catholic teaching that Jews, Christians, and Muslims worship the same Creator.

 

[SanFrank]

He was born of divine birth. Surely, he had more of a purpose then to be taken to heaven and some imposter to fool everyone for a good 600 years before Mohammed had his revelation from Angel Gabriel?

I am just trying to understand and learn.No arguments please, just an islamic point of view.

You see I hear so often that islam is similar to Christianity but really Mohammed has more purpose than Jesus and why are we WAITING FOR JESUS in both Islam and Christianity why not Mohammed? Is it because Mohammed is already dead? But honestly, in Islam shouldn't it be Mohammed being the last and more important prophet?

Thanks for any opinions on this.

muhammad couldn't even get prophethood straight. Do prophets return from the dead? But muhammad never mentioned his return. He mentioned the Lord's return only because he knew from christians that the Lord rose from the dead.

 

[SanFrank]

It is Catholic teaching that Jews, Christians, and Muslims worship the same Creator.

I will not throw any difficult questions your way since on prior occasions, you simply did not tackle those questions but rather logged off. You avoid at all costs anything that shakes your new found faith at its foundation.

 

[steve_bakr]

I will not throw any difficult questions your way since on prior occasions, you simply did not tackle those questions but rather logged off. You avoid at all costs anything that shakes your new found faith at its foundation.

Thanks for your concern. Actually, my Catholicism has taken many years to develop, and is a result of much study, prayer, consideration, and discernment. So, feel free to ask any sincere question you like, but I don't have a lot of tolerance for polemics, and the very headline under your screen name is in itself polemical.

 

[SanFrank]

Alright.

The qur'an mentions over 100 times, that the true religion of 'allah' is islam (submission). If G*d is the same as 'allah' as claimed, where is that sentiment in the Bible, OT or NT?

 

[steve_bakr]

Alright.

The qur'an mentions over 100 times, that the true religion of 'allah' is islam (submission). If G*d is the same as 'allah' as claimed, where is that sentiment in the Bible, OT or NT?

You are right that the very meaning of Islam is submission (to God). While it may not use the same word in the OT or NT, I honestly believe that the essentials of our faith involve the submission of our will to the will of God. Perhaps a more Christian understanding of this concept might be that of surrender, as in the famous hymn, "I surrender all."

BTW, I use ForumRunner on my Android phone and I sometimes need to log off for the new posts to register. A glich in the program.

 

[SanFrank]

The israelites had to trust and obey but as mentioned in Habakuk, G*d says "by faith shall a man live." That message was reinforced in the NT. There is no submission as what we see in islam (five pillars, repeating rituals).

 

[steve_bakr]

The israelites had to trust and obey but as mentioned in Habakuk, G*d says "by faith shall a man live." That message was reinforced in the NT. There is no submission as what we see in islam (five pillars, repeating rituals).

You are correct that all of the five pillars don't have corresponding Christian pillars, although more of them do than we might at first realize. For example, the Shahada has its correspondence in the Jewish Shema; zakat has its correspondence in Christian tithing and charity; the five daily prayers has correspondence to the seven daily prayers mentioned in the Psalms and in the Christian Liturgy of the Hours; and the Hajj has its correspondence in pilgramages to the Holy Land and other holy sites; and also fasting is an ancient Jewish and Christian practice.

But I am not suggesting that there are no differences in our theologies; certainly there are differences.

 

[steve_bakr]

San Frank,

I'm going to bed. I'll look for more questions after I wake up.

God bless you.

 

[SanFrank]

You are correct that all of the five pillars don't have corresponding Christian pillars, although more of them do than we might at first realize. For example, the Shahada has its correspondence in the Jewish Shema; zakat has its correspondence in Christian tithing and charity; the five daily prayers has correspondence to the seven daily prayers mentioned in the Psalms and in the Christian Liturgy of the Hours; and the Hajj has its correspondence in pilgramages to the Holy Land and other holy sites; and also fasting is an ancient Jewish and Christian practice.

But I am not suggesting that there are no differences in our theologies; certainly there are differences.

What is the cause for this clearly distinguishable theological difference that you also recognize.

 

[steve_bakr]

What is the cause for this clearly distinguishable theological difference that you also recognize.

The main theological differences we have with Islam and Judaism is our belief in the Trinity, the Divinity of Christ, the atoning sacrifice of Christ on the Cross, and his resurrection. Catholicism recognizes these differences but does not demonize Islam and Judaism on account of these differences. Instead, Catholicism recognizes that--while we have differences--all three religions worship the God of Abraham.