WillieH said:
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SECOND --JESUS noted this (Matt 10:34 above) because the SWORD (WORD of God is LIKE a 2 edged SWORD) of TRUTH would indeed separate not only brothers & sisters, husbands and wives, fathers & sons, Mothers and daughters, best friends, etc... for one would accept the TRUTH of JESUS CHRIST and the other not!
The Word of God, does indeed separate... and judges...
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. John 12:48
If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 14:15
A direct quote from when He [Jesus] stated it at Mt. Sinai:
And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. Exodus 20:6
Jesus was speaking of the Ten
Words, the Ten Commandments.
WillieH said:
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It is foolishness or a GRAND OVERSIGHT, to believe that He meant that His coming on the earth was not about
PEACE! For the Scriptures indicate this about His COMPLETED MISSION:
Col 1:19-20 --
19 -
for it PLEASED the FATHER that IN HIM should ALL FULNEES dwell...
20 -
and, ...HAVING MADE PEACE, through the BLOOD of HIS CROSS by Him... to RECONCILE -- ALL THINGS unto HIMSELF, by Him, I say whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
How in the world would the
PEACE of
HIS CROSS (which reconciled all things), not be about, ...
PEACE, 3 Angels?
...I await your explanation!
See previous response for more detail. Again, peace comes at such a cost. And peace is found in Him,
"For he is our peace..." Ephesians 2:14;p
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. Matthew 10:34
And His word will continue to divide until the very last day. Wheat and Tares together..., sheep and goats... and then eternally separated, they in Christ Jesus unto Eternal Life, the others to Perish [John 3:16] in the 2nd Death from which there is no life, nor resurrection, and "no place found for them".
WillieH said:
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And this quote is found,
where in the
WORD, 3 Angels?
...and even so, there is so much evidence to the contrary, that this excerpt is likely pulled from a context to prove a carnal point... Certainly NOT that
PEACE is not the goal of our LORD for us, and proposes otherwise, ...that He seeks TURMOIL?
Certainly BELIEVING in
CHRIST, places one upon "riducules" pathway... be it a stranger or an unconverted family member!
It was clearly cited. Look it up.
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and
he that sat upon him [was] called Faithful and True, and
in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Revelation 19:11
The last enemy to be destroyed is death
[1 Corinthians 15:26].
There indeed is a Great Controversy going on, between Christ Jesus and Satan. Revelation 12 reveals it, as does Job, wilderness temptations, etc.
The Battle is real, and Satan is seeking to take down as many people as possible to hurt Christ Jesus, even as a 'roaring lion seeking whom he may devour'.
WillieH said:
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This verse is not a comment on whether or not PEACE was a part of the mission of CHRIST! It is a statement that where ...WICKEDNESS IS... PEACE ...is NOT...
While WICKEDNESS exists within the children, the PEACE of God does not.
For if one is immersed in INIQUITY, then the PEACE of PERFECTION is absent... even in the MANY BELIEVERS! -- Matt 7:22-23 -- Matt 24:5 -- who profess to be ..."COME in HIS NAME"!
The LION'S SHARE of Christianity bears a message of BAD NEWS which contains FEAR, which is CONTRARY to LOVE -- which is about CASTING it (fear), ...OUT -- 1 John 4:18
Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. Revelation 14:7
That is to say, "reverence GOD" in GODly fear, and in awesome wonder and obey HIM.
And of some have compassion, making a difference: Jude 1:22
With others:
And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh. Jude 1:23
...'hellfire' will be real, and many will perish in the 2nd Death, never to have life again. It is a real event that is coming, though not yet.
Though there is good news even in this, and even in the 7 plagues to come.
WillieH said:
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Instead of the
GOSPEL of ...PEACE --
Eph 6:15 -- Rom 10:15 -- CHRISTIANITY busies itself with bringing the message of
FEAR and/or TYRANNY (
HELL or
Annhilation) to the
WORLD that GOD so
UNCHANGINGLY, ...
LOVES --
John 3:16-17 ...
YHVH GOD is the
GOD of PEACE --
1 Thess 5:23 -- Heb 13:20 -- 1 Cor 14:33 -- Phil 4:9 -- 2 Thess 3:16 -- Heb 7:2
Do you deny this, 3 angels?
They have healed also the hurt [of the daughter] of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when [there is] no peace. Jeremiah 6:14
For they have healed the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when [there is] no peace. Jeremiah 8:11
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 1 Thessalonians 5:3
Notice, the GOD of Peace does what if we let HIM, for GOD will not force anyone to Love HIM:
And
the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and [I pray God] your whole spirit and soul and body be
preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Thessalonians 5:23
[There is] no peace, saith the LORD, unto the wicked. Isaiah 48:22
[There is] no peace, saith my God, to the wicked. Isaiah 57:21
Say unto them, [As] I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel? Ezekiel 33:11
WillieH said:
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Yet you and most of Christianity shall tell the
WORLD that GOD shall either BURN THEM FOREVER [in TORMENT of
HELL] or mercilessly (much as did HITLER), ...
ANNHILATE them... when it was HE which brought them FORTH (of His decision) --
John 1:9 - Col 1:16 -- and HE which made them HUMAN and CONCLUDED them ALL in UNBELIEF (of His decision) --
Rom 11:32 -- with the PERFECT FOREKNOWLEDGE of ALL they would do?
This deduction is completely ILLOGICAL and
WITHOUT REASON --
Isaiah 1:18 -- and
IS the
INIQUITY of the
MANY which (think they) are
"COME in His NAME" --
Matt 7:22-23 -- Matt 24:5 -- Hos 4:6-7
Pull out before it is too late for you to do so, 3 angels... for GREAT SHAME awaits those who remain in the "system" called Christianity -- Rev 3:18 - Hos 4:7
As the CHURCH in its various CONFUSION, "commends" itself by its "good works", it therein ROBS the GLORY of GOD, from, ...
YHVH God...
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Foreknowledge does not negate choice, it simply knows what the choice will be ...
Let speak a moment about what robs GOD... taking away the Judgment.
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[Hebrew:
machah מחה; meaning: to wipe out; blot out,
obliterate; exterminated]
[Hebrew:
macah מסה; meaning:
melt away, dissolve, liquefy, consumed]
[Hebrew:
muwg מוג; meaning: to melt,
dissolve, faint, dissipate, flow away]
[Hebrew:
muwth מות; meaning:
dead, death, kill, slain]
[Hebrew:
da`ak דעך; meaning:
extinguished, to go out, put out, dry up, made extinct, quenched]
[Hebrew:
caphah ספה; meaning: to be swept away, destroyed,
consumed]
[Hebrew:
shachath שחת; meaning:
destroyed, corrupted, ruined, decayed]
[Hebrew:
parar פרר; meaning: break apart, frustrate, split,
splinter to pieces, shatter, cracked up]
[Hebrew:
'abad אבד; meaning: perished, vanished, destroyed, die,
exterminated, blot out, put to death]
[Hebrew:
'obed אבד; meaning: destruction,
perish]
[Hebrew:
gava` גוע; meaning: to expire, die, death,
breathe ones last, yield up the last breath]
[Hebrew:
cuwph סוף; meaning: to come to an end, to make an end,
consume utterly, cause to cease, perish]
[Hebrew:
damah דמה; meaning: to cease, cause to cease, cut off, destroy, perish,
to be undone]
[Hebrew:
charam חרם; meaning: to ban,
destroy utterly and completely, exterminated, forfeited, divided, prohibited]
[Hebrew:
kalah כלה; meaning: consumed, determined, ended, finished, completely spent, at an end, perish, terminated,
annihilation, complete destruction]
[Hebrew:
karath כרת; meaning:
cut off, cut asunder, eliminate, kill, cut down]
[Hebrew:
kachad כחד; meaning: hide, conceal, cut down, make desolate, destroy, cut off,
annihilate, efface]
[Hebrew:
bala` בלע; meaning: swallowed up, eaten up,
to be ended]
[Hebrew:
balah בלה; meaning: to wear out, wear away,
use up completely]
[Hebrew:
harac הרס; meaning: to tear down, break down, overthrow,
destroy utterly]
[Hebrew:
show' שוא; meaning: devastated, ruined,
laid to waste]
[Hebrew:
tsamath צמת; meaning: put an end to, cut off, destroy, exterminate,
annihilate]
[Hebrew:
shamad שמד; meaning: destroyed, exterminate,
annihilated, devastated]
[Hebrew:
naphal נפל; meaning: cast down, fail, waste away,
overturn, knock down, fall]
[Hebrew:
'akal אכל; meaning: to eat,
devour, consume, to be wasted, destroyed]
[Hebrew:
chacal חסל; meaning: to consume, eaten up,
bring to an end]
[Hebrew:
tamam תמם; meaning: to be complete, finished,
at an end, consumed, exhausted]
[Hebrew:
'oklah אכלה; meaning: object of devouring,
consuming in judgment]
[Hebrew:
maqaq מקק; meaning: to decay, pine away, rot, fester, corrupt,
dissolve]
[Hebrew:
guwz גוז; meaning: to pass over,
pass away (of life), cut off]
[Hebrew:
yatsath יצת; meaning:
to be burned up, to be made desolate, set on fire]
[Hebrew:
sĕrephah שרפה; meaning: burning, burn,
burnt up throughly]
[Greek:
apollymi ἀπόλλυμι; meaning: to destroy,
put out of the way entirely, abolish, put an end to ruin, render useless, kill, perish]
[Greek:
lyō λύω; meaning: loosed, undone,
annul, dissolve, do away with, overthrow, break up]
[Greek:
katalyō καταλύω; meaning: dissolved, disunite, overthrow, render vain,
bring to naught]
[Greek:
analiskō ἀναλίσκω; meaning: to expend, consume,
destroy]
[Greek:
phtheirō φθείρω; meaning: to corrupt, to destroy,
to perish, deprave]
[Greek:
diaphtheirō διαφθείρω; meaning: to corrupt, consume, destroy, kill,
eat up, ruin]
[Greek:
aphanizō ἀφανίζω; meaning: to snatch away, take away, to make unseen, to destroy, consume,
to make vanish]
[Greek:
phthora φθορά; meaning: corruption,
destruction, perishing, decay]
[Greek:
kataphtheirō καταφθείρω; meaning: to corrupt, deprave,
to destroy, perish]
[Greek:
ekkoptō ἐκκόπτω; meaning: hewn down,
cut off or out]
[Greek:
apokoptō ἀποκόπτω; meaning:
cut off, amputate]
[Greek:
nekros νεκρός; meaning:
lifeless, dead, deceased, breathed ones last, inanimate, inactive]
[Greek:
nekroō νεκρόω; meaning: dead, put to death,
to deprive of power, destroy the strength]
[Greek:
apothnēskō ἀποθνῄσκω; meaning: to die, perish, dry up,
eternal death]
[Greek:
empi(m)prēmi ἐμπί(μ
πρημι; meaning: burn up,
destroy by fire]
[Greek:
katakaiō κατακαίω; meaning: to burn up,
consume by fire]
...Willie, by the grace of GOD, I will go through to the Kingdom in the ARK prepared by GOD. The
3 Angels Messages reveals that ARK...
...and so, even as Noah might have said, 'get in'.