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What is the purpose of Jesus in the Islam?

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He was born of divine birth. Surely, he had more of a purpose then to be taken to heaven and some imposter to fool everyone for a good 600 years before Mohammed had his revelation from Angel Gabriel?

I am just trying to understand and learn.No arguments please, just an islamic point of view.

You see I hear so often that islam is similar to Christianity but really Mohammed has more purpose than Jesus and why are we WAITING FOR JESUS in both Islam and Christianity why not Mohammed? Is it because Mohammed is already dead? But honestly, in Islam shouldn't it be Mohammed being the last and more important prophet?

Thanks for any opinions on this.
 

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He was born of divine birth. Surely, he had more of a purpose then to be taken to heaven and some imposter to fool everyone for a good 600 years before Mohammed had his revelation from Angel Gabriel?

I am just trying to understand and learn.No arguments please, just an islamic point of view.

You see I hear so often that islam is similar to Christianity but really Mohammed has more purpose than Jesus and why are we WAITING FOR JESUS in both Islam and Christianity why not Mohammed? Is it because Mohammed is already dead? But honestly, in Islam shouldn't it be Mohammed being the last and more important prophet?

Thanks for any opinions on this.
Just a suggestion, but it might be more productive to not insult an entire religion before you ask a question.
 
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Uhh. If they revered Jesus as the Christ like you did, they'd be Christian. That's pretty much the difference between Islam and Christianity.

To Muslims, Jesus wasn't the messiah, he's a prophet, like Muhammad. Muslims pray and worship directly to their deity, so even if Jesus died and was resurrected, they still wouldn't pray to a physical, bodily human (Jesus).
 
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Just a suggestion, but it might be more productive to not insult an entire religion before you ask a question.

Why would harvester77's post be an insult to Islam?
 
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JesusFreak78

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Uhh. If they revered Jesus as the Christ like you did, they'd be Christian. That's pretty much the difference between Islam and Christianity.

To Muslims, Jesus wasn't the messiah, he's a prophet, like Muhammad. Muslims pray and worship directly to their deity, so even if Jesus died and was resurrected, they still wouldn't pray to a physical, bodily human (Jesus).

Christianity and Islam is not at all similar, not even close.
 
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Delphiki

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Christianity and Islam is not at all similar, not even close.

Is that right? How much of the Qu'ran have you read? Even Adam and Eve are in there. They are similar in that they are both Abrahamic religions.

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Is that right? How much of the Qu'ran have you read? Even Adam and Eve are in there. They are similar in that they are both Abrahamic religions.

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I have read enough to know they are not similar. Just because you have similar things doesn't mean they are the same.
 
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Uhh. If they revered Jesus as the Christ like you did, they'd be Christian. That's pretty much the difference between Islam and Christianity.

To Muslims, Jesus wasn't the messiah, he's a prophet, like Muhammad. Muslims pray and worship directly to their deity, so even if Jesus died and was resurrected, they still wouldn't pray to a physical, bodily human (Jesus).

Actually, in Islam, Jesus is recognized as the Messiah.

It's the Son of God part that's the real deal breaker.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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ViaCrucis

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I have read enough to know they are not similar. Just because you have similar things doesn't mean they are the same.

Similarity =/= sameness.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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I have read enough to know they are not similar. Just because you have similar things doesn't mean they are the same.


Did I say they were the same?

How do you get from me pointing out the biggest difference between the two and get "they are the same" out of it? ^_^
 
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Did I say they were the same?

How do you get from me pointing out the biggest difference between the two and get "they are the same" out of it? ^_^

You were applying they were the same in your post.
 
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I certainly didn't mean to imply they were the same. They do, however, share many similarities. See the Venn diagram.

Islam aggressively condemns Christianity in all it's forms.That islam copies Old testament in to Quran makes it appear that there are similarities.
 
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Is that right? How much of the Qu'ran have you read? Even Adam and Eve are in there. They are similar in that they are both Abrahamic religions.

The have similarities. I think the main quibble is 'how similar?'
 
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I disagree.

Similarity indicates a comparison between two or more things with mutual familiarity: a wallaby is similar to a kangaroo.

Sameness indicates a one to one ratio of identification: The 1st president of the United States of America is the same person as General George Washington.

There's a difference between the two concepts, whether you agree or disagree is irrelevant.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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