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The same things could also be said of Moses. But then that would be personally attacking them.Good point.
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The same things could also be said of Moses. But then that would be personally attacking them.Good point.
Paul explained very well that he was in Adam as to the old man flesh nature and in Christ, as to the new man spirit nature, dually, and died daily to the manner of that old man, as Jesus said to do by taking up the cross and following Him, reckoning the old man dead with Christ, buried with Christ, and risen with Christ [by faith, only, until we receive the promised body of regeneration/resurrection.Personally I think it should be taken exactly as said. I don't see how one could come to the conclusion Paul is admitting to being under the law, especially considering Romans and Galatians. To believe such would IMHO be double tongued IOW lying. In which case Paul couldn't be legit and the Bible then becomes an unreliable source to base anything on. The same goes for Moses.
I'm sorry I can't understand you because of the terms you use. And if you can't use the name of Jesus we have nothing to talk about and you have nothing to say to a Christian IMHO. I didn't say you weren't a Christian for the benefit of the administration.Paul explained very well that he was in Adam as to the old man flesh nature and in Christ, as to the new man spirit nature, dually, and died daily to the manner of that old man, as Jesus said to do by taking up the cross and following Him, reckoning the old man dead with Christ, buried with Christ, and risen with Christ [by faith, only, until we receive the promised body of regeneration/resurrection.
The Law was made for sinners, and to show the Way in to the courts of heaven as New Men: the how and the why was signs/oracles given only to the namesake people of the New Man name to rehearse, to show the Way, which the Law never got one into, but showed what would come and how we would go in and reach the Goal, which is "Christ" -to be new men in Christ, both in regenerated spirit and in regenerated body.
Paul tries to explain why the Law does not get one there, that is; to get one made new, and it is the Law given only to Israel to rehearse, which shows the Way which was to come, for all peoples.
No one is perfected in body yet, and the Way is open for Jews, first, and also for Gentiles since the once for all Acceptable Atonement/Day of the LORD, which made an end of the remembrance of sin before the Glory above, and opened the Door that WHosoever will may go in.
But we are not in, bodily, and though we are one in Spirit with the Head/Firstborn on that One New Man, by being adopted into Christ, we yet wait for the Perfecting of the body and the physical entrance into the presence of the Glory in heaven's temple.
This is the age of the Gospel when all nations are called to partake of the Passover Lamb and the Atonement, which made an end of sin, by faith; which is "of the Jews" keeping and Oracles/Law teaching; but by no means is the namesake people of the New Man name to become "gentilized" and to forsake Moses. That would be a sin, and whoever teaches such will be called the least in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
The Atonement is fulfilled, and that is done once, for all, but in Israel, when the kingdom is restored, it will be kept as a Feast day of rejoicing instead of a day of repentance, looking back to the Once for all Acceptable Sacrifice; and the complete fulfillment of all written in the Law will not come until the last feast/Tabernacles is totally fulfilled in the last harvest of ingathered sons of God at the end of the Sabbath Millennium, and the last Oracle given to the promised People of the Naw Man name to be fulfilled totally, is circumcision. Until then, the namesake people of the New Man name wear that Oracle/Sign, in their flesh, and keep Moses, to fulfill what they are bound by oath to keep, until the regeneration of all things.
To reiterate: the namesake people of the New Man name, Israel, are those to whom the Oracles are committed to keep, until every single one of them is completely fulfilled. The last one to be fuflilled is circumcision, when Adam flesh nature is no more, and never multiplies its kind by the seed within itself; which fulfillment is only after the end of the 7th day of millennial days, and at the beginning of the 8th Day; which is that "Great Day" of Regeneration of all things, when all things are made new.
Enjoy the milk.I'm sorry I can't understand you because of the terms you use. And if you can't use the name of Jesus we have nothing to talk about and you have nothing to say to a Christian IMHO. I didn't say you weren't a Christian for the benefit of the administration.
Paul explained very well that he was in Adam as to the old man flesh nature and in Christ, as to the new man spirit nature, dually, and died daily to the manner of that old man, as Jesus said to do by taking up the cross and following Him, reckoning the old man dead with Christ, buried with Christ, and risen with Christ [by faith, only, until we receive the promised body of regeneration/resurrection.
The Law was made for sinners, and to show the Way in to the courts of heaven as New Men: the how and the why was signs/oracles given only to the namesake people of the New Man name to rehearse, to show the Way, which the Law never got one into, but showed what would come and how we would go in and reach the Goal, which is "Christ" -to be new men in Christ, both in regenerated spirit and in regenerated body.
Paul tries to explain why the Law does not get one there, that is; to get one made new, and it is the Law given only to Israel to rehearse, which shows the Way which was to come, for all peoples.
No one is perfected in body yet, and the Way is open for Jews, first, and also for Gentiles since the once for all Acceptable Atonement/Day of the LORD, which made an end of the remembrance of sin before the Glory above, and opened the Door that WHosoever will may go in.
But we are not in, bodily, and though we are one in Spirit with the Head/Firstborn on that One New Man, by being adopted into Christ, we yet wait for the Perfecting of the body and the physical entrance into the presence of the Glory in heaven's temple.
This is the age of the Gospel when all nations are called to partake of the Passover Lamb and the Atonement, which made an end of sin, by faith; which is "of the Jews" keeping and Oracles/Law teaching; but by no means is the namesake people of the New Man name to become "gentilized" and to forsake Moses. That would be a sin, and whoever teaches such will be called the least in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
The Atonement is fulfilled, and that is done once, for all, but in Israel, when the kingdom is restored, it will be kept as a Feast day of rejoicing instead of a day of repentance, looking back to the Once for all Acceptable Sacrifice; and the complete fulfillment of all written in the Law will not come until the last feast/Tabernacles is totally fulfilled in the last harvest of ingathered sons of God at the end of the Sabbath Millennium, and the last Oracle given to the promised People of the Naw Man name to be fulfilled totally, is circumcision. Until then, the namesake people of the New Man name wear that Oracle/Sign, in their flesh, and keep Moses, to fulfill what they are bound by oath to keep, until the regeneration of all things.
To reiterate: the namesake people of the New Man name, Israel, are those to whom the Oracles are committed to keep, until every single one of them is completely fulfilled. The last one to be fuflilled is circumcision, when Adam flesh nature is no more, and never multiplies its kind by the seed within itself; which fulfillment is only after the end of the 7th day of millennial days, and at the beginning of the 8th Day; which is that "Great Day" of Regeneration of all things, when all things are made new.
Sorry, circumcision was fulfilled, all done. And it was not about Judaism, which did not get rid of flesh.Paul explained very well that he was in Adam as to the old man flesh nature and in Christ, as to the new man spirit nature, dually, and died daily to the manner of that old man, as Jesus said to do by taking up the cross and following Him, reckoning the old man dead with Christ, buried with Christ, and risen with Christ [by faith, only, until we receive the promised body of regeneration/resurrection.
The Law was made for sinners, and to show the Way in to the courts of heaven as New Men: the how and the why was signs/oracles given only to the namesake people of the New Man name to rehearse, to show the Way, which the Law never got one into, but showed what would come and how we would go in and reach the Goal, which is "Christ" -to be new men in Christ, both in regenerated spirit and in regenerated body.
Paul tries to explain why the Law does not get one there, that is; to get one made new, and it is the Law given only to Israel to rehearse, which shows the Way which was to come, for all peoples.
No one is perfected in body yet, and the Way is open for Jews, first, and also for Gentiles since the once for all Acceptable Atonement/Day of the LORD, which made an end of the remembrance of sin before the Glory above, and opened the Door that WHosoever will may go in.
But we are not in, bodily, and though we are one in Spirit with the Head/Firstborn on that One New Man, by being adopted into Christ, we yet wait for the Perfecting of the body and the physical entrance into the presence of the Glory in heaven's temple.
This is the age of the Gospel when all nations are called to partake of the Passover Lamb and the Atonement, which made an end of sin, by faith; which is "of the Jews" keeping and Oracles/Law teaching; but by no means is the namesake people of the New Man name to become "gentilized" and to forsake Moses. That would be a sin, and whoever teaches such will be called the least in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
The Atonement is fulfilled, and that is done once, for all, but in Israel, when the kingdom is restored, it will be kept as a Feast day of rejoicing instead of a day of repentance, looking back to the Once for all Acceptable Sacrifice; and the complete fulfillment of all written in the Law will not come until the last feast/Tabernacles is totally fulfilled in the last harvest of ingathered sons of God at the end of the Sabbath Millennium, and the last Oracle given to the promised People of the Naw Man name to be fulfilled totally, is circumcision. Until then, the namesake people of the New Man name wear that Oracle/Sign, in their flesh, and keep Moses, to fulfill what they are bound by oath to keep, until the regeneration of all things.
To reiterate: the namesake people of the New Man name, Israel, are those to whom the Oracles are committed to keep, until every single one of them is completely fulfilled. The last one to be fuflilled is circumcision, when Adam flesh nature is no more, and never multiplies its kind by the seed within itself; which fulfillment is only after the end of the 7th day of millennial days, and at the beginning of the 8th Day; which is that "Great Day" of Regeneration of all things, when all things are made new.
Enjoy the milk.
concerning Himself about the Passover and Atonement, First of Firstfruits, and Pentecost. But there are more to come to be fulfilled, and His "Revealing", and His call for the ingathering of the Saints, who have made the Covenant with Him, by "Sacrifice/by the Atonement" -Psalm 50]Jesus fulfilled ALL of the law including circumcision. ...
Yes, it is taught in the Living Oracles. It is the 8th day, the "Last Day" after Tabernacles is celebrated for seven days. There was a ceremony of the drawing and pouring of the waters that was done on it [and shall be done in the millennial reign] -which is when Jesus cried out that He is the Living Water.I am not sure where you get the 8th day from since this is not in scripture.
I identify with Paul in Romans 7:7-25.Paul explained very well that he was in Adam as to the old man flesh nature and in Christ, as to the new man spirit nature, dually, and died daily to the manner of that old man, as Jesus said to do by taking up the cross and following Him, reckoning the old man dead with Christ, buried with Christ, and risen with Christ [by faith, only, until we receive the promised body of regeneration/resurrection.
The Law was made for sinners, and to show the Way in to the courts of heaven as New Men: the how and the why was signs/oracles given only to the namesake people of the New Man name to rehearse, to show the Way, which the Law never got one into, but showed what would come and how we would go in and reach the Goal, which is "Christ" -to be new men in Christ, both in regenerated spirit and in regenerated body.
Paul tries to explain why the Law does not get one there, that is; to get one made new, and it is the Law given only to Israel to rehearse, which shows the Way which was to come, for all peoples.
No one is perfected in body yet, and the Way is open for Jews, first, and also for Gentiles since the once for all Acceptable Atonement/Day of the LORD, which made an end of the remembrance of sin before the Glory above, and opened the Door that WHosoever will may go in.
But we are not in, bodily, and though we are one in Spirit with the Head/Firstborn on that One New Man, by being adopted into Christ, we yet wait for the Perfecting of the body and the physical entrance into the presence of the Glory in heaven's temple.
This is the age of the Gospel when all nations are called to partake of the Passover Lamb and the Atonement, which made an end of sin, by faith; which is "of the Jews" keeping and Oracles/Law teaching; but by no means is the namesake people of the New Man name to become "gentilized" and to forsake Moses. That would be a sin, and whoever teaches such will be called the least in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
The Atonement is fulfilled, and that is done once, for all, but in Israel, when the kingdom is restored, it will be kept as a Feast day of rejoicing instead of a day of repentance, looking back to the Once for all Acceptable Sacrifice; and the complete fulfillment of all written in the Law will not come until the last feast/Tabernacles is totally fulfilled in the last harvest of ingathered sons of God at the end of the Sabbath Millennium, and the last Oracle given to the promised People of the Naw Man name to be fulfilled totally, is circumcision. Until then, the namesake people of the New Man name wear that Oracle/Sign, in their flesh, and keep Moses, to fulfill what they are bound by oath to keep, until the regeneration of all things.
To reiterate: the namesake people of the New Man name, Israel, are those to whom the Oracles are committed to keep, until every single one of them is completely fulfilled. The last one to be fuflilled is circumcision, when Adam flesh nature is no more, and never multiplies its kind by the seed within itself; which fulfillment is only after the end of the 7th day of millennial days, and at the beginning of the 8th Day; which is that "Great Day" of Regeneration of all things, when all things are made new.
Like rose-bud said he believed all in the law and prophets..so?
Acts 3:22
Moses said, ‘The Lord God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brothers. You shall listen to him in whatever he tells you.
Now do what Jesus tells you, and listen to his chosen instrument please....Paul...
Edit: Horrors! I just saw that you are making Paul to be Jesus!!! Moses spoke about the Messiah to come, who is come, and He is not Paul!!
Matthew 5:
1 And seeing the multitudes, He went up on a mountain, and when He was seated His disciples came to Him. 2 Then He opened His mouth and taught them, saying:
3 “ Blessed are the poor in spirit,
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are those who mourn,
For they shall be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek,
For they shall inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
For they shall be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful,
For they shall obtain mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
For they shall see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
For they shall be called sons of God.
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake,
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 “Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Believers Are Salt and Light
13 “You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt loses its flavor, how shall it be seasoned? It is then good for nothing but to be thrown out and trampled underfoot by men.
14 “You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. 16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.Christ Fulfills the Law
17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.Murder Begins in the Heart
21 “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder,a]" class="footnote">[a] and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’ 22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a causeb]" class="footnote">[b] shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire. 23 Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. 25 Agree with your adversary quickly, while you are on the way with him, lest your adversary deliver you to the judge, the judge hand you over to the officer, and you be thrown into prison. 26 Assuredly, I say to you, you will by no means get out of there till you have paid the last penny.Adultery in the Heart
27 “You have heard that it was said to those of old,c]" class="footnote">[c] ‘You shall not commit adultery.’d]" class="footnote">[d] 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.Marriage Is Sacred and Binding
31 “Furthermore it has been said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’ 32 But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immoralitye]" class="footnote">[e] causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery.Jesus Forbids Oaths
33 “Again you have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord.’ 34 But I say to you, do not swear at all: neither by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35 nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. 36 Nor shall you swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. 37 But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.Go the Second Mile
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’f]" class="footnote">[f] 39 But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40 If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also. 41 And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. 42 Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away.Love Your Enemies
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighborg]" class="footnote">[g] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,h]" class="footnote">[h] 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet your brethreni]" class="footnote">[i] only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectorsj]" class="footnote">[j] do so? 48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.
Where did you get this quote from -Oh-oh! now you want to put the Gentiles under Moses, for Jesus commanded to keep Moses. That is what Jesus said to His people; but in the Oracles, He did not command Gentiles to keep Moses to be "saved", so you mis-apply what Jesus said, and to whom and for what; and what Salvation is, anyway and why the Jews who are saved are commanded not to depart Moses -by Paul, even, after the Jerusalem council said so and wrote a letter to the Gentile Churches saying they did not have to keep Moses "but the Jews have Moses read in the synagogues every Sabbath", and are under Moses: not for "Salvation", but for the oath of keeping the Oracles as His namesake people.
Are you pitting Paul against Jesus, with a false Pauline gospel that is not found in the Word of God?
Meat does not destroy Gods work.
And so, can i also conclude that the 10cs do not destroy Gods work?