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Splitting Judaism and Christianity into two separate religions was an artificial decision made by human beings, not a decision made by God.
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They aren't two separate religions. The Judiasm of that day was to set apart a people from which the Messiah would come and fulfill the Law they followed.
Those who accepted Jesus as Messiah, Jew or Gentile, are those who continue to follow the true religion set by God. Those who reject Him break away from God.
It's not two religions, but a flow from the original.
Those who accepted Jesus as Messiah, Jew or Gentile, are those who continue to follow the true religion set by God. Those who reject Him break away from God.
It's not two religions, but a flow from the original.
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ebia
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Beautiful Ignorance said:
Christianity is what happens when Jesus brings the story of Judaism to it's climax and it explodes outwards to encompass the world.
Your problem is seeing the two as sets of timeless truths. They are not. They form an ongoing story; Christianity is the post-resurrection part of that story.
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As it turns out, Christianity used to be a messianic sect in Judaism. This is evident in the book of Acts (one of the books of the Bible) in which the early "Christian" community used to worship/discuss/debate in the Jewish synagogues. Remember that the original apostles were also Jews. It was largely Paul's influence that brought in non-Jews and didn't require them to join Judaism in order to follow Christ.
My understanding is that the division is thought to have been a gradual one that began with the inclusion of Gentiles in worship (who had not necessarily been circumcised), and that climaxed around the time of the rebellion that led to the destruction of the Temple.
What you see, today, is two distinct religions, but Christianity was, at one time, a sect of Judaism.
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still is really. As is Rabbinic (ie the current version of) Judaism. Indeed both derive substantially from the same 1st century stream - pharisaic Judaism. Neither that of the Saducees nor Essenes having survived past the Jewish War.Willtor said:
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razeontherock
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Excellent address of the OP by all! all I see left to contribute, is our "main Deity" never practiced a religion at all. Not a moot point, methinks.
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