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Jazer said:
The gifts of God are for the people of God. If you do not belong to God then you would know nothing about the Spiritual gifts.

Unless, gee, I dunno, British Bulldog is literate and has read a Bible and what it says about said gifts.

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No. People with discernment can tell. Science is out in the dark, whining.

So now not only are you back in "we're special" territory, but you are admitting that a precondition of your specialness is a rejection of known reality. Excuse the rest of us if we ignore your assertion as irrelevant.
 
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Absolutely.

I probably wasn't clear, but I didn't call it "sad" just to badmouth creationists. It's also very telling of the general tone of the debate, which is both sides' fault. Including myself, of course.
 
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There is a difference between a vague feeling that one is special and actually having a gift.
You must be thinking about talent. A gift is something we give to others. If we have the gift of healing, then God will use us to heal others. To be used by God means living a holy sanctified life apart from sin. There are also gifts of wisdom, knowledge, understanding. In the church there are gifts of administration. In the Church we are to serve one another. The greatest in the church is the greatest servant. The one who can humble themselves the most. Christ love for us was to sacrifice Himself for us. For the Joy set before Him. In the world people want to be served. They want to boast and be filled with pride.

Heb 12 2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
 
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You must be thinking about talent. A gift is something we give to others. If we have the gift of healing, then God will use us to heal others. To be used by God means living a holy sanctified life apart from sin. There are also gifts of wisdom, knowledge, understanding. In the church there are gifts of administration. In the Church we are to serve one another. The greatest in the church is the greatest servant. The one who can humble themselves the most. Christ love for us was to sacrifice Himself for us. For the Joy set before Him. In the world people want to be served. They want to boast and be filled with pride.

Heb 12 2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Healing, wisdom, knowledge, understanding. Gifts from God? Really? Hmmm. You are talking about science.

Administration? A gift from God? The civil service will be pleased.

And serving and humbling oneself? No one seems to have mentioned that to the creationists here who are notable for their self-satisfaction and claims of superiority and specialness. The very fact that you assume you are the recipient of a gift where others aren't speaks volumes about the hypocrisy of your claim.
 
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No. People with discernment can tell. Science is out in the dark, whining.

Science is out explaining the world so you can benefit from all this technology you take for granted. Oh, and don't bother whining about weapons of mass desctuction, 'cause that don't change all the benefits. Bottom line, science works, creationism is useless.
 
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Science is out explaining the world so you can benefit from all this technology you take for granted.


Science is explaining the box of the present. Even that they have wrong, as they know not where it ends or started. When the poster mentioned that he hasn't seen inspiration, or gifts, I gave a link so all could have a boo at both.

Brooke Fraser & Darlene Zschech - You'll Come - [Live 2008] - YouTube

Oh, and don't bother whining about weapons of mass desctuction, 'cause that don't change all the benefits. Bottom line, science works, creationism is useless.

Blowing man to kingdom come, or poisoning our air and water, and unleashing bio terrors actually will affect the good bits. That should be obvious. God's inerrant word tells us what will come. Science aids and abets it!
 
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Science is explaining the box of the present. Even that they have wrong, as they know not where it ends or started.

The present started with the big bang. DUH. That's when time, little c, started.
 
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