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i am new to christianity, having been raised by secular parents and i really want to go the creation museum in kentucky with my friend. we're driving to north carolina because i have a few days off school and that's where her family lives. But we can't afford the $22 tickets. Does anyone know if anyone ever sponsors people to get in there. The creation stuff is a big point of contention in my family and i feel like being at the museum would really help me feel like i'm not alone and that there is really something to all of this.
 

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The creation stuff is a big point of contention in my family and i feel like being at the museum would really help me feel like i'm not alone and that there is really something to all of this.

Can you share what your family believes that you think may be clarified by attending this museum? There are several points of view regarding the creation of the world as we know it. Perhaps if we understand your situation better, we can help you decide how to respond or if this museum will be of any value for you or your parents.
 
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I see that group rates go down as low as 16.95 each for 15+ people. And educational groups would likely be lower.

From the site:
Active-Duty Police, Military, and Firefighters: free admission and dependents 50% off with ID.

Maybe someone from Kentucky will notice your post and know of a group going.

I also saw a blog post about a ticket bundle with a zoo, but the zoo no longer offered that deal.
 
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i am new to christianity, having been raised by secular parents and i really want to go the creation museum in kentucky with my friend. we're driving to north carolina because i have a few days off school and that's where her family lives. But we can't afford the $22 tickets. Does anyone know if anyone ever sponsors people to get in there. The creation stuff is a big point of contention in my family and i feel like being at the museum would really help me feel like i'm not alone and that there is really something to all of this.

*pained expression*

Please don't. Its ridiculous. YEC is not true, and the Creation Museum is a travesty of pseudoscience and fallacy.
 
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I just said that, didn't I?



This doesn't make sense.

I am unsure about what doesn't make sense. Through years of science, it is believed that the earth is roughly around 4.6 million years old. This assumption was gathered from a theory.

Without being so vague, do tell me why you do believe the world is 4.6 million years old. Is it because you don't believe the in the inerrancy of scripture?

I do love hearing other people's views on beginning of time.
 
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I am unsure about what doesn't make sense. Through years of science, it is believed that the earth is roughly around 4.6 million years old. This assumption was gathered from a theory.

"Assumptions" aren't gathered from "theories". What are you talking about? The fact that the Earth is billions of years old isn't an assumption in any case, it is supported with physical evidence.



Without being so vague, do tell me why you do believe the world is 4.6 million years old.

The Earth is 4.54 billion years old. Not millions.

Is it because you don't believe the in the inerrancy of scripture?

No... :confused:

I do love hearing other people's views on beginning of time.

That's cool.
 
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"Assumptions" aren't gathered from "theories". What are you talking about? The fact that the Earth is billions of years old isn't an assumption in any case, it is supported with physical evidence.
The Earth is 4.54 billion years old. Not millions.
No... :confused:
That's cool.

I must say this is quite amusing. I apologize for my error. I am guessing you looked that one up. From what I recall from my oceanography class, my professor did say 4.6.

And it is an assumption. We assume that the theory is fact.

Explain to me how you think macroevolution can fit in with the bible.
 
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This thread is on an Edification Forum.

There're obviously many viewpoints on the first chapter about what it really means. As an engineer with an education in philosophy as well I can say your view will continue to develop as there are rich sources of information on both the Biblical-interpretive side as well as the science / observational side. YEC is not the only method of dealing with all this information, and it has some clear issues with scientific observation and method.

On the other hand, the scientific community has often ignored factors that impact their work for the sake of presenting a unified front against all creationism. To me all this does is make science a religion -- something you may be discovering has occupied members of your family.

To be credible to both sides, a lot of thinking and a lot of recognition that there isn't a complete solution to all the issues has to be concluded. If they think science is a complete solution, they're sorely mistaken. If we think YEC is a complete solution, we're sorely mistaken. There are profound inconsistencies on both sides. But proof by "last one standing" leaves none standing.
 
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While the museum has a dogmatic bias, they also have valid archaeological artifacts, and PhD research scientists providing supporting information.

A museum isn't meant to be like a sports team that gathers fans -- it is a place to observe and learn, compare and also question. Visitors don't go there to join a sect -- they go to appreciate what has been gathered and categorized.
 
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